Ben Shelley: Islanders missed opportunity to sell at trade deadline

"Islanders missed opportunity to sell at trade deadline." This title falls in line with the Islanders need to trade for a a scorer or for a defenseman.

And when you ask the person who are they trading for? The response is. "I do not know but they need someone". Or they find ways to not trade someone or ask why would you want to trade that guy?

My point here is, no one knows except for Lou and the other GMs what the asking price or offers were. So to say it was a missed opportunity? I do not know if that would be accurate.

What I know is accurate is that the Islanders did not over pay for something and/or just give something away. I do believe moves need to be made:::cough::::Legit scorer and a Top Four defenseman. Preferably one that can rush the puck and quarter back a Powerplay.

I am also in agreement that the team needs to filter in more youth.

I also like that Lou made cap friendly deals with Parise and Clutter.

[quote=Nfdbulldawg]::::Legit scorer and a Top Four defenseman. Preferably one that can rush the puck and quarter back a Powerplay.

Fiala or Dumba. Wild can’t keep both.

Let the young guys play the rest of the year, Should have moved out a few vets.
The exception was Clutterbuck, he belongs.




John Tonelli for HOF

[quote=Nfdbulldawg]::::Legit scorer and a Top Four defenseman. Preferably one that can rush the puck and quarter back a Powerplay.

Fiala or Dumba. Wild can’t keep both.
- Minnyhock

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Dumba play RHD? They're going to need someone on the other side. They're set for the foreseeable future on the right.

Fiala interests me though. Curious what they'd ask for him.

Beau trying his hardest tonight to not to get traded for Chychrun

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Dumba play RHD? They're going to need someone on the other side. They're set for the foreseeable future on the right.

Fiala interests me though. Curious what they'd ask for him.
- eichiefs9

ELCs and picks. Parise/Suter buyouts leave them little room for anything else.

Beau trying his hardest tonight to not to get traded for Chychrun
- eichiefs9

Still hasn’t convinced me.

Well that was a (frank)ed up chain of events.

Well that was a (frank)ed up chain of events.
- Wildschwein

Pelech killed a man

Pelech killed a man
- Upstate_isles

As clean a kill as one could hope for.

As clean a kill as one could hope for.
- Wildschwein

Yup great step up

ELCs and picks. Parise/Suter buyouts leave them little room for anything else.
- Wildschwein

Makes sense. I don't even know what the Isles could offer.

On one hand, Guerin's hands are tied. On the other hand, Fiala is still an RFA and a good player that a lot of teams are going to want. Also, if Lou is serious about Chychrun, he's not going to be able to move a first...unless he's prepared to move 1st's this year and next, which seems like not a good idea.

Makes sense. I don't even know what the Isles could offer.

On one hand, Guerin's hands are tied. On the other hand, Fiala is still an RFA and a good player that a lot of teams are going to want. Also, if Lou is serious about Chychrun, he's not going to be able to move a first...unless he's prepared to move 1st's this year and next, which seems like not a good idea.
- eichiefs9

That it is not.

Though the cost certainty of Chychrun damn near makes it worth it.

That it is not.

Though the cost certainty of Chychrun damn near makes it worth it.
- Wildschwein

I think I'd rather sign Forsberg at like $9.5M than trade for Fiala and sign him for around $6.5M or so. Eats more cap space but it's not a wholesale mortgaging of the future. Of course, a ton of people will want to sign Forsberg

Trading away guys like Salo and Raty, plus multiple first rounders, could prove absolutely disastrous down the line. Like full tear-down rebuild kind of disastrous.

I think I'd rather sign Forsberg at like $9.5M than trade for Fiala and sign him for around $6.5M or so. Eats more cap space but it's not a wholesale mortgaging of the future. Of course, a ton of people will want to sign Forsberg

Trading away guys like Salo and Raty, plus multiple first rounders, could prove absolutely disastrous down the line. Like full tear-down rebuild kind of disastrous.
- eichiefs9

I hope to hell Lou doesn’t move Räty. That kid could be something special.

And yeah, I would hesitate to move too many futures.

I hope to hell Lou doesn’t move Räty. That kid could be something special.

And yeah, I would hesitate to move too many futures.
- Wildschwein

I think I read somewhere earlier today that Raty ended the season on a 6gm point streak. 40pts in 41gp for the kid (13g, 27a) Good for 14th in the league in scoring. He also played fewer games than almost everyone ahead of him on that list.

Looks like Jurkurit is making the playoffs. Wonder if he doesn't sign and finish the season in Bridgeport if they have an early exit.

I hope to hell Lou doesn’t move Räty. That kid could be something special.

And yeah, I would hesitate to move too many futures.
- Wildschwein

I don’t think Lou moves him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Dumba play RHD? They're going to need someone on the other side. They're set for the foreseeable future on the right.

Fiala interests me though. Curious what they'd ask for him.
- eichiefs9

Yes, Dumba is a RD. The Wild are going to have a goalie problem next year with Kaukonen traded. Talbot at 35 with a decent contract that ends next year. They will have to get to 2 goalies soon with little cap room. They would be happy to settle for whichever Russian goalie of yours has the smaller cap hit.

I don’t think Lou moves him.
- nyisles7

Raty had a bad year in his draft year but was projected to be a high pick. I think the isles got a real steal here

Yes, Dumba is a RD. The Wild are going to have a goalie problem next year with Kaukonen traded. Talbot at 35 with a decent contract that ends next year. They will have to get to 2 goalies soon with little cap room. They would be happy to settle for whichever Russian goalie of yours has the smaller cap hit.
- Minnyhock

Unfortunately the one with the smaller cap hit is almost entirely untouchable, but the difference is only $1M.

I'm not totally sold on the idea they'll trade Varlamov unless the return is something they can't say no to.

I'd say that Varlamov for Fiala straight-up is something I could be interested in, but I don't think that really fits the Wild's cap situation. Maybe they could retain $1M or so to make it work, but I'm not entirely sure that'd do it either.

I think they're going be extremely hesitant to trade Varly.

Unfortunately the one with the smaller cap hit is almost entirely untouchable, but the difference is only $1M.

I'm not totally sold on the idea they'll trade Varlamov unless the return is something they can't say no to.

I'd say that Varlamov for Fiala straight-up is something I could be interested in, but I don't think that really fits the Wild's cap situation. Maybe they could retain $1M or so to make it work, but I'm not entirely sure that'd do it either.

I think they're going be extremely hesitant to trade Varly.
- eichiefs9

Hes huge for sorokin, I don't see him moving

Mayfield!