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Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
Shat!!!
I wanted sOrOkin to get the SO tonight.

- nyisles7


You and me both. šŸ˜•

HOLY SHAT!!!

Playmaker hatty for my boy.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
This Lee Beau Brock line is fire
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
Fire Aho into the sun
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Mar 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
Huh. Bad whiff Aho.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 24 @ 9:52 PM ET
Wow, that was pretty.
- JimmyP


Very nice TIC TAC TOE goal from our first line and 3rd liner BeaušŸ‘šŸ»
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 24 @ 9:52 PM ET
Huh. Bad whiff Aho.
- Wildschwein


Just donā€™t like him
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:56 PM ET
Jyst donā€™t like him
- nyisles7

The number of turnovers he makes that result in goals for his limited time on ice is startling
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 24 @ 9:57 PM ET
Chara 0 for 2
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:58 PM ET
Haha...The Killer BBLees...first I had heard that
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 24 @ 9:59 PM ET
The number of turnovers he makes that result in goals for his limited time on ice is startling
- keaner17


Yes agree. Heā€™s just a bit to small for me and his skating doesnā€™t make up for it. I was never a fan.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 24 @ 10:04 PM ET
Well if they played like this all year they may have done something. Perhaps it's why no moves were made
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 24 @ 10:08 PM ET
Well if they played like this all year they may have done something. Perhaps it's why no moves were made
- Upstate_isles


Agreed. It is what it is. However can you imagine if the season was reversed? If they came out playing well, then collapsed it would've been much more painful.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Mar 25 @ 7:44 AM ET
Well if they played like this all year they may have done something. Perhaps it's why no moves were made
- Upstate_isles


Even the Detroit announcers (that's the broadcast I had to listen to) were saying that if it weren't for the 13 game road trip, Covid and injuries that the Isles would more than likely be in the playoffs this year. Maybe being in a new building contributed a little bit as well. You have to get to know the rink. How the puck comes off the boards. The dead spots. How the puck rims around the glass. Yeah they had a few practices but it was new to them as well as their opponents. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws for excuses, but this season is what it is. Move on to the off season and see what Lou does.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 25 @ 8:16 AM ET
Haha...The Killer BBLees...first I had heard that
- keaner17


Had not heard that either.. like it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:06 AM ET
Even the Detroit announcers (that's the broadcast I had to listen to) were saying that if it weren't for the 13 game road trip, Covid and injuries that the Isles would more than likely be in the playoffs this year. Maybe being in a new building contributed a little bit as well. You have to get to know the rink. How the puck comes off the boards. The dead spots. How the puck rims around the glass. Yeah they had a few practices but it was new to them as well as their opponents. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws for excuses, but this season is what it is. Move on to the off season and see what Lou does.
- Isleshockeyman

Yeah I donā€™t believe itā€™s THE reason but believe it contributed to a negative result. Plenty of other teams endured Covid BS that are currently in playoff position. If a 13 game road trip destroys your season then your team has bigger issues going on imo. Did it help our cause? Of course not but to blame our season on that is a cop out. This team has some holes and to go into next season nit filling those holes would be a misstep. How many times has this team over performed when the playoff were out of reach? Did this team underperform and play terrible when healthy this season? Yes it did thatā€™s why this season is toast. They started playing to their ability a few weeks ago. Not saying you are the one making excuses but if Lou goes into next season thinking well Bailey, Chara, Beau and whoever decided to start playing in March so these guys are just wonderful for next season donā€™t color me surprised when weā€™re in the same situation again next season. This season if anything pointed out some real obvious holes to even the most stubborn homer. If they donā€™t get filled we will miss the playoffs again in this division imo.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:43 AM ET
Yeah I donā€™t believe itā€™s THE reason but believe it contributed to a negative result. Plenty of other teams endured Covid BS that are currently in playoff position. If a 13 game road trip destroys your season then your team has bigger issues going on imo. Did it help our cause? Of course not but to blame our season on that is a cop out. This team has some holes and to go into next season nit filling those holes would be a misstep. How many times has this team over performed when the playoff were out of reach? Did this team underperform and play terrible when healthy this season? Yes it did thatā€™s why this season is toast. They started playing to their ability a few weeks ago. Not saying you are the one making excuses but if Lou goes into next season thinking well Bailey, Chara, Beau and whoever decided to start playing in March so these guys are just wonderful for next season donā€™t color me surprised when weā€™re in the same situation again next season. This season if anything pointed out some real obvious holes to even the most stubborn homer. If they donā€™t get filled we will miss the playoffs again in this division imo.
- Cptmjl

It was death by a thousand cuts but all teams face adversity. They are 3rd in goals against even with their record so that alone points to a lack of scoring. Lee and Nelson are on fire and Palmieri and Parise have gotten better but to me their inability to score even with the goalies playing well was the killer. I hear chychruns name thrown around but to me a legit scorer is what's needed more. Raty is still a year or so off and holmestrom has been ok in Bridgeport but to me he's a 3rd line guy if he makes it. I know a gadreau or forsberg is probably a pipedream but thats what this team is sorely lacking
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Mar 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
Yeah I donā€™t believe itā€™s THE reason but believe it contributed to a negative result. Plenty of other teams endured Covid BS that are currently in playoff position. If a 13 game road trip destroys your season then your team has bigger issues going on imo. Did it help our cause? Of course not but to blame our season on that is a cop out. This team has some holes and to go into next season nit filling those holes would be a misstep. How many times has this team over performed when the playoff were out of reach? Did this team underperform and play terrible when healthy this season? Yes it did thatā€™s why this season is toast. They started playing to their ability a few weeks ago. Not saying you are the one making excuses but if Lou goes into next season thinking well Bailey, Chara, Beau and whoever decided to start playing in March so these guys are just wonderful for next season donā€™t color me surprised when weā€™re in the same situation again next season. This season if anything pointed out some real obvious holes to even the most stubborn homer. If they donā€™t get filled we will miss the playoffs again in this division imo.
- Cptmjl


I'm not offering up any excuses for this season. They didn't score goals. Period. That long road trip wasn't like the spent all the time on the road. They'd play a road game or 2 then come home for a few days. Get some practice in and hit the road for maybe a week. Then it was back home again. Now, they didn't play at home, but they weren't in planes, buses and hotels for a month at a clip. As Upstate put it below, death by a thousand cuts. You're playing in front of someone else's fans for 13 games to start, then you play in your arena and it's the first time doing so.
I do agree that if they ice the same team next season, it won't be a surprise if they're out of playoff contention by February. They need consistent scoring. Someone to put in 40-50 goals a year consistently. They also need a solid puck-moving defenseman to replace Leddy. I don't think there needs to be a major shake-up or rebuild. Just 2 or 3 guys that make the team younger, faster, and score more.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Mar 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
It was death by a thousand cuts but all teams face adversity. They are 3rd in goals against even with their record so that alone points to a lack of scoring. Lee and Nelson are on fire and Palmieri and Parise have gotten better but to me their inability to score even with the goalies playing well was the killer. I hear chychruns name thrown around but to me a legit scorer is what's needed more. Raty is still a year or so off and holmestrom has been ok in Bridgeport but to me he's a 3rd line guy if he makes it. I know a gadreau or forsberg is probably a pipedream but thats what this team is sorely lacking
- Upstate_isles



Agreed. The goalies have done their jobs this year. The guys in front haven't. I'm sure if you go back through the season scores, there'd be more than 1 or 2 one goal games that they could have/should have won. They win a few of those early games and now we're talking about potential playoff spot.

*Edit: So I just went back and looked at their scores. I can count at least 8 games that they could have/should have won. A few were OT/SO losses but most were 1-goal games or games against Seattle/Buffalo that they'd most likely win now. You can come up with about an additional 15 points which would put them right in the thick of the hunt for a wild card. Wasted opportunities have killed them this year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
I'm not offering up any excuses for this season. They didn't score goals. Period. That long road trip wasn't like the spent all the time on the road. They'd play a road game or 2 then come home for a few days. Get some practice in and hit the road for maybe a week. Then it was back home again. Now, they didn't play at home, but they weren't in planes, buses and hotels for a month at a clip. As Upstate put it below, death by a thousand cuts. You're playing in front of someone else's fans for 13 games to start, then you play in your arena and it's the first time doing so.
I do agree that if they ice the same team next season, it won't be a surprise if they're out of playoff contention by February. They need consistent scoring. Someone to put in 40-50 goals a year consistently. They also need a solid puck-moving defenseman to replace Leddy. I don't think there needs to be a major shake-up or rebuild. Just 2 or 3 guys that make the team younger, faster, and score more.

- Isleshockeyman

40-50 consistently is like Ovechkin-level talent, something tells me that they're not gonna find that. A regular 30-goal guy (Forsberg) and a defenseman that can skate and transport the puck effectively would go a loooong way.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
Agreed. The goalies have done their jobs this year. The guys in front haven't. I'm sure if you go back through the season scores, there'd be more than 1 or 2 one goal games that they could have/should have won. They win a few of those early games and now we're talking about potential playoff spot.

*Edit: So I just went back and looked at their scores. I can count at least 8 games that they could have/should have won. A few were OT/SO losses but most were 1-goal games or games against Seattle/Buffalo that they'd most likely win now. You can come up with about an additional 15 points which would put them right in the thick of the hunt for a wild card. Wasted opportunities have killed them this year.

- Isleshockeyman

Yeah they had several games this year where they gave up back-breaking goals in the last couple seconds of a period. A handful of mental lapses and a dearth of goals lead to a significant number of losses.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Agreed. The goalies have done their jobs this year. The guys in front haven't. I'm sure if you go back through the season scores, there'd be more than 1 or 2 one goal games that they could have/should have won. They win a few of those early games and now we're talking about potential playoff spot.

*Edit: So I just went back and looked at their scores. I can count at least 8 games that they could have/should have won. A few were OT/SO losses but most were 1-goal games or games against Seattle/Buffalo that they'd most likely win now. You can come up with about an additional 15 points which would put them right in the thick of the hunt for a wild card. Wasted opportunities have killed them this year.

- Isleshockeyman

Yup and they will go on a run and finish 9th
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
Yup and they will go on a run and finish 9th
- Upstate_isles

According to MoneyPuck, they still have 2.6% chance of making the playoffs

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'm not offering up any excuses for this season. They didn't score goals. Period. That long road trip wasn't like the spent all the time on the road. They'd play a road game or 2 then come home for a few days. Get some practice in and hit the road for maybe a week. Then it was back home again. Now, they didn't play at home, but they weren't in planes, buses and hotels for a month at a clip. As Upstate put it below, death by a thousand cuts. You're playing in front of someone else's fans for 13 games to start, then you play in your arena and it's the first time doing so.
I do agree that if they ice the same team next season, it won't be a surprise if they're out of playoff contention by February. They need consistent scoring. Someone to put in 40-50 goals a year consistently. They also need a solid puck-moving defenseman to replace Leddy. I don't think there needs to be a major shake-up or rebuild. Just 2 or 3 guys that make the team younger, faster, and score more.

- Isleshockeyman

Didnt think you were and yes I agree with pretty much everything you said here.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
According to MoneyPuck, they still have 2.6% chance of making the playoffs


- eichiefs9

Theyā€™re being nice
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
Yup and they will go on a run and finish 9th
- Upstate_isles

Weā€™ve gone 7-1-1 in the last nine and made up two points on the teams weā€™re trying to catch.
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