Not really. You have 27 guys on an AHL roster you typically fill that out prior to the season. 14 of them are prospects between 18-25, that is not counting Rubtsov and Bunnaman. As far as I can see now they only have 4 guys over 30. So most those guys on that team were our prospect. The 25 year old mark is pretty much the end of the line for a prospect with NHL hopes if they still havent played a game in the NHL. The remaining 23 contracts are your NHL players.

I dont follow the phantoms so I cant give any information on who signed who in the aHL for how long or whos doing well in the AHL and who isnt.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So it is not the Gm's fault he didn't leave himself any wiggle room in terms of contract allotment? Then who's fault is it?

If Florida knew they were the only destination Giroux would agree to go to, why would they give up a first round pick?

I will be happy to look at it again. When I went to the site it was sorted by EVO WAR and thus that is what I thought you were showing me. I will look at the rest of the columns and get back to you. Thanks for sending me this!
- jd250

Np, I really don't mind helping (converting lol) people with this stuff. The model has some biases but so do do all the models that the individual teams use too.

If Florida knew they were the only destination Giroux would agree to go to, why would they give up a first round pick?
- PLindbergh31

because the flyers wouldnt have traded him without it

because the flyers wouldnt have traded him without it
- bradster

If they want him bad enough even if they aren’t bidding against another team they’d agree to the terms. Fletcher doesn’t get a pass for the return he received.

So it is not the Gm's fault he didn't leave himself any wiggle room in terms of contract allotment? Then who's fault is it?
- hello it's me 2050

There is wiggle room. They had a slot free but you arent going to waste that on a depth contract. Look at Cap friendly most teams hover around the 48/49 mark.

There is wiggle room. They had a slot free but you arent going to waste that on a depth contract. Look at Cap friendly most teams hover around the 48/49 mark.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

so 1 contract is wiggle room?

Guys like Strome, morin, and the like should have been cut loose or signed to AHL only deals. Thompson shouldn’t have been signed. So there is at least 3 off the top of my head.

Rather keep that slot open and go after a college player or Euro free agent who may have more upside. Not another Minny cast off. Since they have slots now not really an issue.

If they want him bad enough even if they aren’t bidding against another team they’d agree to the terms. Fletcher doesn’t get a pass for the return he received.
- PLindbergh31

Its a simple concept.... Florida still had to submit an acceptable offer. The flyers arent going to move Giroux for a 3rd round pick just because its the only offer.

What was offered by Florida is acceptable, in any situation without a NMC we would have gotten a better offer because someone one else would have beat that offer and forced Florida to offer more.

It’s shocking to me how his career has panned out thus far. I really liked this kid and thought he had all the tools. It’s results like this that confirm I really have no idea what to make of prospects
- Just5

Is it possible that av ruined him?

Tanner and Wade should be called up at this point. Both have a legit shot to be on the roster next year. I do not buy the playoff "push" narrative since in last place. Don't care about the only 2 call ups left.

Both or one and Igor should be in in the NHL lineup at this stage. Need to get them acclimated and up to NHL speed.

The Flyers have had two very poor years, certainly two of the worst years I can remember as a fan. People need someone to point the finger at, and Fletcher is where the buck stops. He hired AV. He traded for Risto. He signed Yandle. Etc. AV didn't work out. Some trades and FA signings have been polarizing. I just wish folks can have balance in their evaluation of Fletcher. Consider the impact of Covid and the many injuries to key players. I personally really like him, so I'm probably biased in that direction so its easier for me to see some of the good things that he has done.
- jd250

There are some good things Fletcher has done. I don’t think anyone can say all of his moves are horrible. But the same could be said for Hextall, before him Holmgren and before him Clarke. The point is his “leadership” has led us to today. Yes there are some built in excuses but in the end he’s the guy in charge of a failing , once proud Flyer organization. He may get one more kick at the can for next year, but he’s out of time to turn this thing around….Regardless of what we all debate around here….Fletch is on the clock.

Its a simple concept.... Florida still had to submit an acceptable offer. The flyers arent going to move Giroux for a 3rd round pick just because its the only offer.

What was offered by Florida is acceptable, in any situation without a NMC we would have gotten a better offer because someone one else would have beat that offer and forced Florida to offer more.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Wrong. Fletcher gives Florida an ultimatum. Here’s what it takes to acquire Giroux. If they balk, they don’t get him.

so 1 contract is wiggle room?

Guys like Strome, morin, and the like should have been cut loose or signed to AHL only deals. Thompson shouldn’t have been signed. So there is at least 3 off the top of my head.

Rather keep that slot open and go after a college player or Euro free agent who may have more upside. Not another Minny cast off. Since they have slots now not really an issue.
- hello it's me 2050

Strome is 23....... Morin is injury prone but many wanted him back even on this board. Thompson was signed to play on the NHL roster unfortunatley like most our team he has been hurt. Again what you think is just your opinion.

Thompson is a reliable 4th line/depth guy GMs like. That is why he always ends up signing somewhere in the NHL. He will likely get signed elsewhere next season.

The fact that YOU dont like a signing and use hindsight to see that it didnt work out doesnt make it a poor decision

Wrong. Fletchers gives Florida an ultimatum. Here’s what it takes to acquire Giroux. If they balk, they don’t get him.
- PLindbergh31

That is what they did.... They got 3 assets for Giroux and contract dumps. Given that was the only offer on the table and included a young 1st round draft pick whos NHL ready if not close to NHL ready + 1st and a 3rd. That was acceptable knowing the offer wouldnt get any better. Florida doesnt need Giroux. That offer is not one you simply walk away from and accept losing the player for nothing. If they had done that you would be here criticizing the Flyers for not taking the deal

Tanner and Wade should be called up at this point. Both have a legit shot to be on the roster next year. I do not buy the playoff "push" narrative since in last place. Don't care about the only 2 call ups left.

Both or one and Igor should be in in the NHL lineup at this stage. Need to get them acclimated and up to NHL speed.
- hello it's me 2050

Yes they should be….as should Zamula. There is no playoff push for the phantoms….they are (frank)ing terrible as well.

Tanner and Wade should be called up at this point. Both have a legit shot to be on the roster next year. I do not buy the playoff "push" narrative since in last place. Don't care about the only 2 call ups left.

Both or one and Igor should be in in the NHL lineup at this stage. Need to get them acclimated and up to NHL speed.
- hello it's me 2050

You cant just ignore the 2 call ups left. If guys get hurt which has been very likely this season, you are going to end up with more games like DET where we have 7 D dressed and only 3 C. You also have to consider anyone going down has to go through waivers. If claimed that puts us in a worse position if injuries do occur of the final 20 or so games

Laughton is probably done for the season. Ellis and Coots are already ruled out.

If Florida knew they were the only destination Giroux would agree to go to, why would they give up a first round pick?
- PLindbergh31

Doesn’t matter. When the Panthers cannot afford him this summer, Giroux will sign with the other only destination him and wife spent weeks talking about and the score can write another cute story about how they only had one destination in mind.

There is wiggle room. They had a slot free but you arent going to waste that on a depth contract. Look at Cap friendly most teams hover around the 48/49 mark.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There is no need to keep a contract spot open at this point in the season. A contract spot is easy to create by moving a depth contract out. It's a nothing burger. There was no issue with the move. It was simply adding a body for the Phantoms. There is no error by the GM here.

because the flyers wouldnt have traded him without it
- bradster

What do you mean? Florida wasn’t bidding against anyone.

Strome is 23....... Morin is injury prone but many wanted him back even on this board. Thompson was signed to play on the NHL roster unfortunatley like most our team he has been hurt. Again what you think is just your opinion.

Thompson is a reliable 4th line/depth guy GMs like. That is why he always ends up signing somewhere in the NHL. He will likely get signed elsewhere next season.

The fact that YOU dont like a signing and use hindsight to see that it didnt work out doesnt make it a poor decision
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

do you think Strome has any NHL future? Dont care if many on this board wanted Morin back. Neither should have been given an NHL contract. Thompson being hurt is irrelevent. He was not needed in any way. That was Chuck being AV's lap dog.

It was a poor decision to resign all 3 to NHL deals at time. Also as of now it shows it was a mistake.

You cant just ignore the 2 call ups left. If guys get hurt which has been very likely this season, you are going to end up with more games like DET where we have 7 D dressed and only 3 C. You also have to consider anyone going down has to go through waivers. If claimed that puts us in a worse position if injuries do occur of the final 20 or so games

Laughton is probably done for the season. Ellis and Coots are already ruled out.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

yes I can ignore it. Call them both up where they belong. Not that hard.

Laughton is probably done for the season. Ellis and Coots are already ruled out.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There is no information that I have seen that suggests that Laughton is done for the year.

There is no need to keep a contract spot open at this point in the season. A contract spot is easy to create by moving a depth contract out. It's a nothing burger. There was not issue with the move. It was simply adding a body for the Phantoms. There is no error by the GM here.
- MJL

that wasn't what was being discussed cliff.

Well if you have no slots open at this point in the season then how can you sign your college guys or college free agents? So you do need slots open imo. You can move a contract out I agree. Moving several is another issue.

Doesn’t matter. When the Panthers cannot afford this summer, Giroux will sign with the other only destination him and wife spent weeks talking about and the score can write another cute story about how they only had one destination in mind.
- SuperSchennBros

You’re caught up in your own stupidity and it shows

You’re caught up in your own stupidity and it shows
- ClaudeFather

Are you mocking me because it hurts so much.