No pat, that’s not what I posted.

I would imagine that there something in his contract that states he cannot abuse substances.

I know that’s a standard in whl contracts, I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be in a nhl one.

Again, no lawyer here..
- pete26

well what happens then if it's a "contract violation", as you're suggesting?

That’s why I think his problem is between the ears.

How the (frank) can you not be rehabilitated in this amount of time, from any surgery??
- pete26

You probably have a point there. It doesn’t pass the smell test. Only thing I can think of is the habs don’t want him back cause it may give them a better chance to win games and worsen the chances at the top pick in the draft.

That’s why I think his problem is between the ears.

How the (frank) can you not be rehabilitated in this amount of time, from any surgery??
- pete26

there are a lot of injuries and surgeries that do require a lot of time to recover from.

well what happens then if it's a "contract violation", as you're suggesting?
- Pat1993

I have no idea.

But I can’t imagine his contract states that it’s ok to abuse substances..

Also, maybe if they enter the nhl program they still get paid, I dunno.

I have no idea.

But I can’t imagine his contract states that it’s ok to abuse substances..
- pete26

well, obviously not lol. it would either state that it's prohibited, or it doesn't mention it at all. in any case though it's kind of pointless to mention that sort of thing in the contract if the player retains his salary and isn't affected whatsoever...

there are a lot of injuries and surgeries that do require a lot of time to recover from.
- Pat1993

This. And excessive scar tissue can build if not rehabbed properly, which then requires it's own surgery and rehab.
The focus may have been to get him mentally healthy first, followed by the knee.

You probably have a point there. It doesn’t pass the smell test. Only thing I can think of is the habs don’t want him back cause it may give them a better chance to win games and worsen the chances at the top pick in the draft.
- cburgess

I don’t think he could stop a god damn beach ball right now.

But, that’s just me..

This. And excessive scar tissue can build if not rehabbed properly, which then requires it's own surgery and rehab.
The focus may have been to get him mentally healthy first, followed by the knee.
- Darksyde

this is also what I'm thinking. and obviously you also have to consider that a substance abuse issue isn't necessarily completely resolved after a 30-day program, relapses are a very common thing.

I don’t think he could stop a god damn beach ball right now.

But, that’s just me..
- pete26

Hard to know, we haven’t seen him since last year. There is a reason Seattle wouldn’t touch him for free tho. I get he’s butt hurt and realizes his Stanley cup dreams are likely toast, but many players are in the same boat.

I don’t think he could stop a god damn beach ball right now.

But, that’s just me..
- pete26

he was doing pretty damn well during the playoffs, which isn't so long ago...

he was doing pretty damn well during the playoffs, which isn't so long ago...
- Pat1993

When my bike didn’t have a flat tire, it wasn’t a problem riding it..

When my bike didn’t have a flat tire, it wasn’t a problem riding it..
- pete26

this is also what I'm thinking. and obviously you also have to consider that a substance abuse issue isn't necessarily completely resolved after a 30-day program, relapses are a very common thing.
- Pat1993

Did he ever say how long he’s been struggling with the alcohol?

Did he ever say how long he’s been struggling with the alcohol?
- cburgess

who said it was alcohol?

god damn (frank)ing penalties. ugh.

- Pat1993

Some things get lost in translation.


That’s cool..

Did he ever say how long he’s been struggling with the alcohol?
- cburgess

Deleted post..

god damn (frank)ing penalties. ugh.
- Pat1993

i like allen's mask that you never told me about. not all crazy and schitzophrenic, symmetry.. i like it.

Some things get lost in translation.


That’s cool..
- pete26

I think I get what you're saying Pete, but I find your analogy is more or less applicable since we really have no clue about the extent of his recovery right now, and how close (or far) he is from being 100%.

damn. Allen savin' their bacon, once again.

wow! what a save lol

i like allen's mask that you never told me about. not all crazy and schitzophrenic, symmetry.. i like it.
- kicksave856

the mask I never told you about..?

who said it was alcohol?
- Pat1993

I thought he said that when he came out of rehab?

wow! what a save lol
- fidopro

and Savard almost scored again lol

the mask I never told you about..?
- Pat1993

i was never updated! i thought he was still wearing last year's. which was also nice. he's a good mask guy for sure.