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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 27 @ 8:00 AM ET
Funny how he goes to the best team in the league, immediately on the first line, putting up points, counted on in key situations. But I guess he was captain comfortable...or maybe this team just sucked.
- ClaudeFather

So he is doing what he did here.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
hurts watching mayhew on anaheim right now
- 2Real


lol why?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
https://nypost.com/2022/0...ine-deals-becoming-rarer/


In the not-breaking news department: Eight years later, we’re being told that the Rangers had something going with the Flyers at the 2014 deadline, whereby Ryan Callahan would have gone to Philadelphia for a couple of prospects. It is only when that fell through that the Blueshirts turned to Tampa Bay and pulled off the captains’ exchange for Martin St. Louis, according to a well-placed source.


Bill any idea who was involved?
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Mar 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
Due to lost revenues during the pandemic and the decision to extend rather than trade Ekholm, Predators ownership wanted to cut budget. That's why Ellis was made available in trade.

Besides, his current injury issue is one he never had previously in his career.

- bmeltzer

Regardless, Ellis is one of those players who finds a way to get injured for extended periods. This specific injury may not be recurring, but the fact that he is always injured is recurring. Layer that on top of that ridiculous contract and you stay away. Fletcher is either an idiot or a puppet following the whims of the idiots above him.
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Mar 27 @ 9:33 AM ET
Montreal seems to really be buying in to what St. Louis is doing. Also has Luke Richardson as one of his assistants. A team lacking in talent, with some direction and structure, sure is playing some spirited hockey.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
Regardless, Ellis is one of those players who finds a way to get injured for extended periods. This specific injury may not be recurring, but the fact that he is always injured is recurring. Layer that on top of that ridiculous contract and you stay away. Fletcher is either an idiot or a puppet following the whims of the idiots above him.
- mr4tno

it’s immediately turned into a horrible contract
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Mar 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
hurts watching mayhew on anaheim right now
- 2Real

Let' hope they extend him. Otherwise, he'll be the plug will be plugged into our 3rd line next year....
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
So he is doing what he did here.
- hello it's me 2050

Pretty much
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 27 @ 9:40 AM ET
Watched some of the Denver/MD college hockey game yesterday afternoon. Bobby Brink is the leading goal scorer in college hockey. While his team is headed to the frozen four I wasn't overly impressed with his game yesterday. Just didn't notice him having the puck that much. THIS TEAM NEEDS FORWARDS THAT CAN DRIVE THE PLAY!! Thanks!
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Mar 27 @ 9:43 AM ET
What an unbelievable game . Double OT. 22-0-1...league champs..flyers cup champs..state champs. My grandson is on the team..
- hfc355



My son played at Haverford last season, who also went to states. Unfortunately we lost in the final out in Pittsburgh. Tough to swallow, especially in that town, but it was a great ride and trip. Enjoy and congrats.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
My kids had a bit of sports success and I would be asked, 'Are you proud?'
They always thought it was weird that I said I was proud FOR them, not proud OF them.
I figure I wasn't the one collecting bruises, straining my body, or having to adapt to the weather, etc.
The only thing I did was support their activities. As a resource pride is possible, but it's like you are an ore deposit. Are you going to be proud that you are made into a good product? You are merely a willing repository of time, enhancing emotional deposits, money (lots of that) that is utilized by your offspring to achieve.
I never insisted on them being studs on the field. I would encourage them to do what they could as best as they could. Seemed to work. They never hated getting into the car with me after a game. Expressing sympathy for bad luck, recognizing when luck ran in their directions, hating bad calls (I was a ref, coach, announcer, and board member.), and restraining honesty as needed when they were off.
I didn't make it all fun all the time but compassion ruled and making it as good as the moments allowed kept us from letting a game weigh too heavily on their competitive selves.
And it made the process of rearing four kids less of a burden.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:38 AM ET
Dressing 11 forwards for the 4th game in a row? Why is Allison not playing?

Amazing how everyone on the team has been injured. Not Yandle tho. No injuries no Covid.. what a farce.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 10:39 AM ET
Regardless, Ellis is one of those players who finds a way to get injured for extended periods. This specific injury may not be recurring, but the fact that he is always injured is recurring. Layer that on top of that ridiculous contract and you stay away. Fletcher is either an idiot or a puppet following the whims of the idiots above him.
- mr4tno


No doubt. It's the result of an organizational philosophy of putting the team in a position where they have to make moves. When in that position, you don't make the best moves. You make the best move you can find right now. It leads to bad decision making. Good GM's are patient and make the right moves over a period of time. I have no doubt that given some healthy and whatever moves they make, the team can be improved. Become a playoff team. Maybe even a team that can get hot and make a run one season. However the odds are unlikely that with the team philosophy that they have, that they'll become a top perennial contending team. More likely that they'll be a team with cap issues and get in a big jam if they are lucky enough to get some young players develop into top players. With their developmental processes. That's what it would take. Luck.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Mar 27 @ 10:41 AM ET
Dressing 11 forwards for the 4th game in a row? Why is Allison not playing?

Amazing how everyone on the team has been injured. Not Yandle tho. No injuries no Covid.. what a farce.

- PLindbergh31


Laughton must be in bad shape. Didn’t realize he had a history of concussion.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Bill, Poile could've chosen another player to move. Ellis was moved to get out from under that contract, no doubt.
- MJL


Like who?

The only players in the ball park of Ellis are Ekholm, Josi, Forsberg, Duchene and Ryan Johansson.

Josi is by far their Best D, wasnt going to be him

With Johansson and Duchene struggling prior to this season they couldnt afford to give up Forsberg

They tried moving Duchene and Ryan Johansson but found no takers. Both players were also exposed for the expansion draft.

That Leaves Ekholm who was re-signed and carried a 3+ mill cap hit going into this season.

Ellis was the odd man out. Poile knew jack, he was just desperate to dump cap.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Laughton must be in bad shape. Didn’t realize he had a history of concussion.
- Dkos

Niskanen?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
Laughton must be in bad shape. Didn’t realize he had a history of concussion.
- Dkos


No reason for him to play again this year.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Mar 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
My son played at Haverford last season, who also went to states. Unfortunately we lost in the final out in Pittsburgh. Tough to swallow, especially in that town, but it was a great ride and trip. Enjoy and congrats.
- Laceemup88

Yeah you guys beat us in the semis last year. What a dynamic offensive powerhouse they were. Losing to any team from Pittsburgh sucks especially out there. Almost had a clean sweep this year but Malvern got edged out. High School hockey at the higher level teams is so so good. Good luck
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
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I would not give Poile that much credit. Afterall he did sign him for $6+MM until age 36. Anyone who has watched Ellis during his entire career knows he is injury prone. He is hurt every year and misses an average of 25% of the games.

- mr4tno


Been saying that Ellis has been plagued by injuries for his whole career. To bad chuckles did. It see that
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/why-marquee-nhl-trade-deadline-deals-becoming-rarer/


In the not-breaking news department: Eight years later, we’re being told that the Rangers had something going with the Flyers at the 2014 deadline, whereby Ryan Callahan would have gone to Philadelphia for a couple of prospects. It is only when that fell through that the Blueshirts turned to Tampa Bay and pulled off the captains’ exchange for Martin St. Louis, according to a well-placed source.


Bill any idea who was involved?

- hello it's me 2050


News to me. Also was never mentioned by Homer in his 8 hours of interviews with Jay Greenberg for Flyers at 50. But certainly could have happened. Just don't know who was involved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 11:11 AM ET
Like who?

The only players in the ball park of Ellis are Ekholm, Josi, Forsberg, Duchene and Ryan Johansson.

Josi is by far their Best D, wasnt going to be him

With Johansson and Duchene struggling prior to this season they couldnt afford to give up Forsberg

They tried moving Duchene and Ryan Johansson but found no takers. Both players were also exposed for the expansion draft.

That Leaves Ekholm who was re-signed and carried a 3+ mill cap hit going into this season.

Ellis was the odd man out. Poile knew jack, he was just desperate to dump cap.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Coming up with an opinion on why another player was not chosen does not remove the simple fact that another player could've been chosen. The obvious factor was Ellis, his injury history and the term left on his contract.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Mar 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Hoping for a big night from Frosty.
Maybe 3 whole shots on goal?
One can hope.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 27 @ 11:28 AM ET
Hoping for a big night from Frosty.
Maybe 3 whole shots on goal?
One can hope.

- konalover711

My expectations for him are getting lower every week. He does some good things here and there but it doesn’t seem to be clicking at the NHL level for him. For the speed they claim for him he never uses it either. He’s having an extremely difficult time adjusting his game, he needs to find it soon.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:29 AM ET
Coming up with an opinion on why another player was not chosen does not remove the simple fact that another player could've been chosen. The obvious factor was Ellis, his injury history and the term left on his contract.
- MJL


You are deflecting.

You said "Poile could have chosen another player."

I just pointed out why there was no other player. These are not opinions, its fact.

Duchene and RyJo were in fact being shopped/Dump, that is a fact

Ekholm being more cost effective than Ellis is a fact

Forsberg being the teams top forward since 2014-15 is a fact.

Ellis was the only player to move. That is a fact.

Ellis' injury history has nothing to do with it. If NSH had the money they wouldnt have made that deal.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:30 AM ET
You have to assume a after the road trip you will see Allison +++, recalled. You can sit the antiques.
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