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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
There’s so many I can’t keep track, who’s Argue4U??
- LeftCoaster

Have a 90% idea but all good it's being handled.
Just checking the golf sched and driving range openings still a week away here...


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
No, that’s me. I know all my alts. PG was my original account which I forgot the password to so I started Lefty, then I wanted to talk in the Flyers thread as a Flyers fan so I started DraftandDestroy….that’s all me.
- LeftCoaster


Lol, yes, we all know all your personalities, it was a joke. Maybe go for a dip in the pool, you might have sun stroke.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 29 @ 1:04 PM ET
Allvin had gone on record after the trade that him and Mottes agent had discussed an extension but couldn't come to terms on the $. I imagine he wasn't going to sign for the same, or less, considering his numbers had improved from when he signed his last deal.

Getting something for Motte, even if it was a 4th round pick, was ABSOLUTELY the right move. Benning never projected cap space, which is why we are in this mess, so Allvin doing some forward thinking into the future of the cap structure is a fantastic thing.

- Codes1087


Exactly!
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
He was definitely after a raise, and deservedly so. He's earned it. Just doesn't fit with the Canucks, and that's fine.

Glad Allvin got something for him. The Canucks aren't really in a spot to "keep their own rentals" for a playoff push.

- NewYorkNuck

It was nice seeing the new, diverse management team be pro-active at the trade deadline. It hints at the idea that they might actually have a plan going forward.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
But the question was best Canuck team. Regardless of your opinion, the 94 team was not the best. They had a miracle run in the playoffs but their regular season was meh. 41-40.

I all honesty, you might be best served not reading “between the lines”. It’s clouding your perspective.

- bloatedmosquito

I agree, that 2011 team was far and away the best Canucks team in their history, and it’s not even close. But the 94 team had great character guys and they were tough, a different era of hockey. I loved them both. I think the 93 team was better but that 94 team caught fire in the first round and they almost rode that to a Stanley Cup.

Linden and Bure were unbelievable!!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Lol, yes, we all know all your personalities, it was a joke. Maybe go for a dip in the pool, you might have sun stroke.
- 1970vintage

Rare rainy day today, we need the moisture, high of only 60°. You’re stuck with me for most of the day
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
No, that’s me. I know all my alts. PG was my original account which I forgot the password to so I started Lefty, then I wanted to talk in the Flyers thread as a Flyers fan so I started DraftandDestroy….that’s all me.
- LeftCoaster

I certainly hope so
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
A 4th liner and a depth defensemen who no one on the team liked and people are still writing short stories of the emotional distress.
- Marwood


It's funny how this worked out. I came to my senses about mixed messages and giving away picks for fringe players who have been healthy scratches, players that are expendable and eat up cap. You are no longer worried about it. It' not a big deal anymore. Crazy times...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Could it be possible that they don't see Rathbone as an NHL defenseman?
So they went and cleared up capspace(Hamonic) for a player that they think will fit what they need on the backend.(Dermott)
I have gone on record saying I don't know much about Dermott, as I don't watch the Leafs, but I have also expressed some concerns about this management team.
I gave Benning 6 years before I lost all faith in him, I am sure I can give this new group at least 6 months before jumping all over them.

- Reubenkincade

Agreed the Rathbone love is strange. Trade him for
Some size on the backend. If he pans out he can be another Dermott. Great
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
Benning would have let him walk like the others for zero.
- Argue4U


Benning would trade a 3rd for a player like Dermott.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Allvin had gone on record after the trade that him and Mottes agent had discussed an extension but couldn't come to terms on the $. I imagine he wasn't going to sign for the same, or less, considering his numbers had improved from when he signed his last deal.

Getting something for Motte, even if it was a 4th round pick, was ABSOLUTELY the right move. Benning never projected cap space, which is why we are in this mess, so Allvin doing some forward thinking into the future of the cap structure is a fantastic thing.

- Codes1087


How is bringing in Dermott protecting cap space? They used up half the cap space they created... Like I said before, they still have Poolman. That contradicts what you just said.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
It was nice seeing the new, diverse management team be pro-active at the trade deadline. It hints at the idea that they might actually have a plan going forward.
- Marwood


Trading a 3rd rounder away for a fringe player is nice now.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
I agree, that 2011 team was far and away the best Canucks team in their history, and it’s not even close. But the 94 team had great character guys and they were tough, a different era of hockey. I loved them both. I think the 93 team was better but that 94 team caught fire in the first round and they almost rode that to a Stanley Cup.

Linden and Bure were unbelievable!!

- LeftCoaster


I agree.

2011 was the best regular season team this franchise ever had. 2nd best playoff team though. They didnt have the heart and determination that the 94 team had... not a choker among them.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
Agreed the Rathbone love is strange. Trade him for
Some size on the backend. If he pans out he can be another Dermott. Great

- CanuckDon


I agree with the bold.

No need to trade a 3rd for Dermott then... Poolman, Rathbone and the waiver wire could take care of that next season.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
Trading a 3rd rounder away for a fringe player is nice now.

- boonerbuck

Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Mar 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
He was definitely after a raise, and deservedly so. He's earned it. Just doesn't fit with the Canucks, and that's fine.

Glad Allvin got something for him. The Canucks aren't really in a spot to "keep their own rentals" for a playoff push.

- NewYorkNuck

the days of the 12 million dollar 4th line are over.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
It was nice seeing the new, diverse management team be pro-active at the trade deadline. It hints at the idea that they might actually have a plan going forward.
- Marwood



no they don't
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
the days of the 12 million dollar 4th line are over.
- Shuswap Wap


That was over last summer.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 29 @ 1:59 PM ET
no they don't
- A_SteamingLombardi





134 IQ iirc....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
Trading a 3rd rounder away for a fringe player is nice now.

- boonerbuck


It’s nice now, but later they’ll be the ones crying the loudest about it
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
How is bringing in Dermott protecting cap space? They used up half the cap space they created... Like I said before, they still have Poolman. That contradicts what you just said.
- boonerbuck


dermott is 25, cost controlled (1 more year) and half the price of Hamonic
Allvin didn't sign Poolman in the first place, and im pretty sure he was injured during the TDL, not that I think teams were lining up to acquire him.
Management has said that they want to clear cap space and get younger, its just not going to get done in one TDL. You can't fix 8 years worth of bad cap management/trades/signings in 3 months, which is how long Allvin has been GM.

Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
Have a 90% idea but all good it's being handled.
Just checking the golf sched and driving range openings still a week away here...



- LordHumungous

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
I agree.

2011 was the best regular season team this franchise ever had. 2nd best playoff team though. They didnt have the heart and determination that the 94 team had... not a choker among them.

- boonerbuck

Yep well said on all counts.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Mar 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
Trading a 3rd rounder away for a fringe player is nice now.

- boonerbuck


25 years old 255 career games.

By comparison Poolman is 28 and has 159.

You may need to reassess your definition of fringe.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
It’s nice now, but later they’ll be the ones crying the loudest about it
- Nucker101

Just wait until after Summer when we ice the same roster. Tears of diversity is going to be beautiful...
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