boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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It's not like the Canucks need an amazing backup goalie. Shouldn't be hard to find a guy mid season, assuming you have some cap space. - NorthNuck
Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails.
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Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails. - boonerbuck
You get it
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NorthNuck
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails. - boonerbuck
I'm sure the management team wouldn't commit to him without having a failsafe plan if disaster struck, without JB trading away all the picks you have ammo to pick up a proven guy if need be. |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails. - boonerbuck
Unless you're willing to commit serious money to a 1B backup, let's be real, the team is going to suck without Demko. But, hell, maybe Martin is a capable backup goalie. Maybe management has done their due diligence and see him as a guy that can step in with an injury and not implode. Maybe they know more than the brainiacs on a random internet forum? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I'm sure the management team wouldn't commit to him without having a failsafe plan if disaster struck, without JB trading away all the picks you have ammo to pick up a proven guy if need be. - NorthNuck
at the absolute worst, we lose him for nothing via waivers if he doesn't beat out another goalie for the backup slot. Best case scenario, he beats out the competition and is a measely 750k for 2 years. I honestly can't see him being picked up on waivers on opening roster night to be an NHL backup somewhere else if he can't be in Vancouver. We see soo many players put on waivers for opening night, I can't see a team going into the season, not knowing who their backup is, and claiming Martin to take up that spot.
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You are once again ignoring that Hamonic was off the books and three mil was new found cap space . Not only that but the hockey Gods gave us a third round draft pick. Minutes later it all went down the sh1tter because Alvi took on a player that could not crack the roster of his old team.
He was on the block for a long time . No one took him. Even teams looking for playoff depth didn't take him.
Just because he cracked the bottom part of a roster on a team that most of the fans complain about the D does not make him a good acquisition. He has not moved the needle one bit . We are still the same team as we were before.
I hope your wife does the shopping otherwise your cupboards would be full of Cheez Whiz and Pizza Pops.
- VANTEL
Oh God, you are still on this? Go get a pet or something to keep you company |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Unless you're willing to commit serious money to a 1B backup, let's be real, the team is going to suck without Demko. But, hell, maybe Martin is a capable backup goalie. Maybe management has done their due diligence and see him as a guy that can step in with an injury and not implode. Maybe they know more than the brainiacs on a random internet forum? - NewYorkNuck
17-4-2 in the AHL is certainly impressive. I remember thinking he was very much capable in the short sample size we saw him play as a Canuck. Hopefully that trasnlate into a larger sample size of 15-25 games next year.
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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at the absolute worst, we lose him for nothing via waivers if he doesn't beat out another goalie for the backup slot. Best case scenario, he beats out the competition and is a measely 750k for 2 years. I honestly can't see him being picked up on waivers on opening roster night to be an NHL backup somewhere else if he can't be in Vancouver. We see soo many players put on waivers for opening night, I can't see a team going into the season, not knowing who their backup is, and claiming Martin to take up that spot. - Codes1087
It happened to the Leafs a few years back. Two goalies on waivers, both got claimed. I think they survived. |
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Considering you’ve been crying about Dermott everyday since we acquired him, sure seems confusing that you say you’re not angry about it. - neem55
Oh he's an angry old coot |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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A long benning? - Bettmanhatesus
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Unless you're willing to commit serious money to a 1B backup, let's be real, the team is going to suck without Demko. But, hell, maybe Martin is a capable backup goalie. Maybe management has done their due diligence and see him as a guy that can step in with an injury and not implode. Maybe they know more than the brainiacs on a random internet forum? - NewYorkNuck
I just made a pros and cons post is all. Don't get wound up...
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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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You are once again ignoring that Hamonic was off the books and three mil was new found cap space . Not only that but the hockey Gods gave us a third round draft pick. Minutes later it all went down the sh1tter because Alvi took on a player that could not crack the roster of his old team.
He was on the block for a long time . No one took him. Even teams looking for playoff depth didn't take him.
Just because he cracked the bottom part of a roster on a team that most of the fans complain about the D does not make him a good acquisition. He has not moved the needle one bit . We are still the same team as we were before.
I hope your wife does the shopping otherwise your cupboards would be full of Cheez Whiz and Pizza Pops.
- VANTEL
Lol. More like bread, peanut butter, and fishing lures. Straight fast food for the rest. |
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Lol. More like bread, peanut butter, and fishing lures. Straight fast food for the rest. - Load Management
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This makes no sense to me . Hamonic was RHD and Dermott is playing LHD. Hamonic was traded for a good reason and was a very good move but it was not to get Dermott . Thirty minutes later Alvi (frank)ed it up.
Great that you guys are excited about Martin Dermott and Richardson. I will plan the parade . - VANTEL
First bolded, this is pretty obvious
2nd bolded, you know this how?( dhaliwal) lol.
It was stated by this management team that they had been following him for a couple years, they need to strengthen the left side of the defense, where Brad Fu cken Hunt is the #3 guy and they obviously felt they had a stronger lineup on the right side, with Myers, Poolman, Schenn, Burroughs and the now departed Hamonic.
3rd bolded, Not sure why you feel the need to plan a parade, as it doesn't sound like anyone else here is thinking this is a parade worthy team.
Some are just happy to see some of the Benning stench gone.
Can't say I am happy with how this Management never cleaned house on all of the overpayment on this team,(in one TDL) but hey, I gave Benning the benefit of the doubt for 6 seasons, I can give these guys at least 6 months before slinging mud at them.
I even remember the great Benning talk about how he could pick any player in a round and have that player be an NHL player, lol, what a clown he was/is.
I am just elated to have that bumbling idiot gone and see how the chips fall over the next season or 2 with this new group.
Big test on direction they take will be the draft, then see what or if they do during free agency. |
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micah555
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC Joined: 10.03.2007
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Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails. - boonerbuck
I think in most seasons when you lose your best player, you tend to have a major issue. A really good team can lose their starter and do okay or better with a backup. But a fringe team can't survive losing that big a contribution from the lineup without heroics from the backup.
Look at the Leafs, floundering with their tandem. It's hard enough to find one reliable goalie. If Martin comes up next year, Mikey D has to be the succession plan and we need to look for fresh blood to fill in for that part as well. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I think in most seasons when you lose your best player, you tend to have a major issue. A really good team can lose their starter and do okay or better with a backup. But a fringe team can't survive losing that big a contribution from the lineup without heroics from the backup.
Look at the Leafs, floundering with their tandem. It's hard enough to find one reliable goalie. If Martin comes up next year, Mikey D has to be the succession plan and we need to look for fresh blood to fill in for that part as well. - micah555
Too bad they couldn't move Halak at TDL. Maybe get a better look at Martin.
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micah555
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC Joined: 10.03.2007
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Too bad they couldn't move Halak at TDL. Maybe get a better look at Martin. - boonerbuck
I would have jizzed in my pants if they had moved Halak. Harmonic was a coup, Halak would have been a major victory. That said, Halak has been good in a few starts since then and he had potential to be a major asset to a playoff team with suspect goaltending. Our cap and virtual certain playoff elimination means that he's an anchor for us, regardless of how he plays. The Martin interview included. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Ok. One last time. If you take a rostered player that's worth 3 mil and replace him with a player that's worth 1.5 mil. That's actually saving. Mathematically, you'd have to spend 4.5 mil on the replacement player to be spending 1.5 mil. At this point, I'm hoping your Wife handles the finances. - Load Management
It’s like talking to a rock 😂😂 |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Yeah but only 3 NHL games, should have saved the cap space. - Makita
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Demko out for 3 or 4 weeks could be a problem. You want someone proven when considering that. It's an affordable gamble. If it works out, big score for this management team... If it doesn't, you are looking for a replacement that will cost more if you need to win games and that means lots of land mines. Overpaid waiver pick up. Trade a pick for a proven one. Take a chance on Dipi and possibly face the mentioned land mines after that fails.
I'm ok with it. Just worry about how to quickly recover if it fails. - boonerbuck
We signed a cheap back up for a role. If Demko went down for any long time it’s like most teams it can sink their season. Alternative is spending too much on a 1b to sit & watch for 60-65 games no thx. Martin is fine & very cap friendly & 1 more move to make cap space as said by JR. other roster moves to retool will happen at their own pace. Offseason #1 is to come. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Unless you're willing to commit serious money to a 1B backup, let's be real, the team is going to suck without Demko. But, hell, maybe Martin is a capable backup goalie. Maybe management has done their due diligence and see him as a guy that can step in with an injury and not implode. Maybe they know more than the brainiacs on a random internet forum? - NewYorkNuck
I’ll put my money on hockey ppl running the team vs the negative whiners stuck on stubborn unfounded flip flopping posts 👍 |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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at the absolute worst, we lose him for nothing via waivers if he doesn't beat out another goalie for the backup slot. Best case scenario, he beats out the competition and is a measely 750k for 2 years. I honestly can't see him being picked up on waivers on opening roster night to be an NHL backup somewhere else if he can't be in Vancouver. We see soo many players put on waivers for opening night, I can't see a team going into the season, not knowing who their backup is, and claiming Martin to take up that spot. - Codes1087
Martin is guaranteed NHL money not AHL pittance & the chance to showcase himself when the chance. He’s not stupid & is a low risk signing. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Too bad they couldn't move Halak at TDL. Maybe get a better look at Martin. - boonerbuck
Yup & get a pick for him & flip it for another add to keep the wine mill going lol |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I would have jizzed in my pants if they had moved Halak. Harmonic was a coup, Halak would have been a major victory. That said, Halak has been good in a few starts since then and he had potential to be a major asset to a playoff team with suspect goaltending. Our cap and virtual certain playoff elimination means that he's an anchor for us, regardless of how he plays. The Martin interview included. - micah555
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