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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
There's no to be fair about losing (potentially) Johnson for nothing (or a potential 3rd rounder). Max rookie deals are squabbling over 50K? And Buffalo is willing to potentially let him walk for that? If that's the case, this organization deserves everything terrible to happen to them. Imagine letting a first round pick leave because you won't pay a max rookie deal.
- SDSabre


If that's the case its disgusting on the owners part.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Apr 11 @ 11:53 AM ET
This was a long time thought of mine with no facts to back up.... Every guy who doesn't sign I believe were always later round picks. I dont know that for a fact but what comes to mind does...... I cant think of any top 2 round picks who did this, Vesey was a 3rd
- hubie

Kevin Hayes did it to Chicago. He was a late first so they got a compensatory 2nd round pick for him which they wasted. It's at the end of the 2nd round.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
isnt it 925K max?

If the Sabres are not willing to offer that, than this team is in more trouble than we think.

- ImThatGuy


Loos like it's $916,667 now, which includes up to a $92,500. Two way deal with 80k in the minors. Up to 850k in Type A bonuses and 2m of Type B bonuses.

It would be extremely unlikely (maybe even unprecedented) for Johnson to get Type B bonuses. So, the only real negotiation here is on Type A bonuses.

Cap Friendly is showing that Power didn't get his full bonuses. If that's true, it shocks me.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
Kevin Hayes did it to Chicago. He was a late first so they got a compensatory 2nd round pick for him which they wasted. It's at the end of the 2nd round.
- GPHawksfan


"For college NCAA players that have been drafted, NHL teams retain their rights until 30 days after the player has left college.

A team that does not sign a first-round draft pick receives a compensatory pick in a future draft upon losing the rights to that player, determined on a case-by-case basis"

Looks like there would be some compensation, and it's a case-by-case basis. My guess is that 2nd rounder is as high as they go, and with how low (last pick in the first round) Johnson was, I'd imagine he'd garner something much lower. [/img]

EDIT:

This article is older, it appears you get a 2nd rounder in the same slot in which the original player was selected in the 1st round. So Johnson would garner pick 31 in the second round of the 2024 draft. cool.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 11 @ 12:08 PM ET
"For college NCAA players that have been drafted, NHL teams retain their rights until 30 days after the player has left college.

A team that does not sign a first-round draft pick receives a compensatory pick in a future draft upon losing the rights to that player, determined on a case-by-case basis"

Looks like there would be some compensation, and it's a case-by-case basis. My guess is that 2nd rounder is as high as they go, and with how low (last pick in the first round) Johnson was, I'd imagine he'd garner something much lower.

- SDSabre[/img]

EDIT:

This article is older, it appears you get a 2nd rounder in the same slot in which the original player was selected in the 1st round. So Johnson would garner pick 31 in the second round of the 2024 draft. cool.


my guess is it will be at the end of second rd, pick 65
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Apr 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
my guess is it will be at the end of second rd, pick 65
- homiedclown

either way we will probably end up picking some worthless player who isn't worth signing (see karabacek) while johnson goes on to have a 10 year nhl career with 3 all star game appearances.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
either way we will probably end up picking some worthless player who isn't worth signing (see karabacek) while johnson goes on to have a 10 year nhl career with 3 all star game appearances.
- SabresFaninIndiana




lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Apr 11 @ 12:21 PM ET
(frank) it. Let's poach Campbell from the Lafs.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
my guess is it will be at the end of second rd, pick 65
- homiedclown


The edit of his post covers it. Same as I've read in other places. Would be pick 63.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
The edit of his post covers it. Same as I've read in other places. Would be pick 63.
- Lunaion


That's what I'm seeing, and wouldn't be until 2024. What an absolute mess that'll be.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 11 @ 12:31 PM ET
That's what I'm seeing, and wouldn't be until 2024. What an absolute mess that'll be.
- SDSabre


It would suck, no question.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 11 @ 12:35 PM ET
Fun stuff
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Apr 11 @ 12:52 PM ET

- DirtyDan

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
The edit of his post covers it. Same as I've read in other places. Would be pick 63.
- Lunaion


Pick 63 and the 6th rounder for colin Robert miller, could have moved us to pick 61.

Terrible management again KA
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
The edit of his post covers it. Same as I've read in other places. Would be pick 63.
- Lunaion

it was the last pick in the first round

new team added

it will be last pick of second round

bettman always finds a way to screw thing up for buffalo
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
it was the last pick in the first round

new team added

it will be last pick of second round

bettman always finds a way to screw thing up for buffalo

- homiedclown


Possible there's some fine print somewhere. Hate that we might find out.
PDO-Speedwagon
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Match Penalty
Joined: 12.09.2021

Apr 11 @ 1:23 PM ET
Tampa, Carolina, and Florida are three of the deepest and toughest teams in the East and the entire league. No shame in dropping games against that gauntlet.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 1:42 PM ET
Lol, those reasons are easy.

At least I didn’t double and triple down on Cozens being a 4th liner.

That’s looking swell as he’s closing in on 50 points as a 20 year old on the third line

- sbroads24

You mean 40
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 11 @ 1:49 PM ET
You mean 40
- BeadyEyedDouche


40 is the new 50
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
40 is the new 50
- homiedclown

3 alt accounts is basically 4 alt accounts
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
40 is the new 50
- homiedclown

2 alt accounts is basically 3 alt accounts
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
2 alt accounts is basically 3 alt accounts
- BeadyEyedDouche

double posting is basically triple posting
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
double fisting is basically triple fisting
- BeadyEyedDouche


fify
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
Power was skating with Joker today
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
Power was skating with Joker today
- Buff36




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