You mean like Eichel?

Let's see if you answer this one.
- Wetbandit1

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skinner stinks

something something

30 goals

Drafting two hall of famers in Bergeron and Marchand outside of the first round isn’t exactly a replicable strategy.

Your highest odds of drafting a super star come from tanking.

Like drafting that guy in Edmonton, or that American with 58 goals this year in Toronto.
- Pegullaville

That entire core of their 2011 Stanley Cup team was drafted outside the first round (Marchand, Bergy, Krejci, Lucic).

Winning teams are built different ways.

What do you have to say about all the high picks Edmonton had, and failed to do anything with? That should have been an instant success, no?

How can anyone say that prospects not wanting to sign here is not a bad look for the organization. It just shows how bad the outside perception really is.
- Buff36

There are so many other reasons for college players to not sign here.

You're acting like it's a Buffalo thing.

Johnson has depth issues here. You know that.

Could be why dahlin is switching sides tomorrow, part of the on going sales pitch?

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skinner stinks

something something

30 goals
- homiedclown

I get the last 2 seasons were shortened but 7 & 14 and this season 30 - Not so much for 9M cap hit

He’s a solid hockey player but that’s a stinky contract man - terrible signing off of one 40 goal season

Drafting two hall of famers in Bergeron and Marchand outside of the first round isn’t exactly a replicable strategy.

Your highest odds of drafting a super star come from tanking.

Like drafting that guy in Edmonton, or that American with 58 goals this year in Toronto.
- Pegullaville

I see (kinda) what you’re getting at but the Sabres only have 7 of their last 1st rd selections still in the organization and if you go back a few years beyond that - the percentage gets even worse.

The 2 best picks in last 10 years were Eichel and Dahlin (regardless of Eichel leaving). Like Leafs and Oilers.

I get the last 2 seasons were shortened but 7 & 14 and this season 30 - Not so much for 9M cap hit

He’s a solid hockey player but that’s a stinky contract man - terrible signing off of one 40 goal season
- Big23Questions

His cap hit could be 17 mil and it wouldn’t make a difference for our cap for the next three years.

So seriously who cares anymore about that?

In fact, can someone name a team that is bad because of their salary cap? It’s such a loser mentality to constantly talk cap hits and contracts

His cap hit could be 17 mil and it wouldn’t make a difference for our cap for the next three years.

So seriously who cares anymore about that?

In fact, can someone name a team that is bad because of their salary cap? It’s such a loser mentality to constantly talk cap hits and contracts
- sbroads24

That cap hit ties up money from being spread around creating a better lineup.

I would argue that it’s such a loser mentality to be content with ‘not being bad’ and not look to be better and ultimately the best you can be. Losers in my opinion are content with where they are and winners always try to go forward/up.

Not meant to be a jerk here man I was just commenting on Skinners value for contract. I think your tea, could be in a better shape using that space for 2 or 3 players vs just 1 skinner who doesn’t really move the needle all that much if at all.

That cap hit ties up money from being spread around creating a better lineup.

I would argue that it’s such a loser mentality to be content with ‘not being bad’ and not look to be better and ultimately the best you can be. Losers in my opinion are content with where they are and winners always try to go forward/up.

Not meant to be a jerk here man I was just commenting on Skinners value for contract. I think your tea, could be in a better shape using that space for 2 or 3 players vs just 1 skinner who doesn’t really move the needle all that much if at all.
- Big23Questions

I get it, and I didn’t mean you had a loser mentality, I meant from the teams perspective.

Just get and keep as many good players as possible and worry about contracts when you need to.

The Lightning we’re supposedly in cap trouble for the last three years but they’ve won two cups and guys want to go there.

Draft, develop, trade for as many good players and pay the best ones

I probably would if I gave enough of a poop to actually watch the games, but being purposely bad for 8 (frank)ing years was enough to push me to not give a poop, and judging by the attendance, I'm hardly alone.
- Wetbandit1

So you actually come on here daily,
to b!tch about a team you don’t even watch anymore???

I get it, and I didn’t mean you had a loser mentality, I meant from the teams perspective.

Just get and keep as many good players as possible and worry about contracts when you need to.

The Lightning we’re supposedly in cap trouble for the last three years but they’ve won two cups and guys want to go there.

Draft, develop, trade for as many good players and pay the best ones
- sbroads24

Oh for sure and I have this argument or convo a lot when people get up in arms for apparently leveraging future or picks for the present. Sometimes fans think too much about the business optics (if that makes sense.). Take Toronto - they have matthews marker Tavares (still in prime window) nylander rielly as their stand outs. This is their window now. If they get rid of a prospect who may or may not pan out down the road (think Robertson) or a 2nd rd or even a mid to low end 1st rd for some depth or higher end d to make a run - so be it and they should.
If you keep being in that middle area of being a contender but never really committing while you’re big time players are still under contract or 8n prime you will just a really good for years with no cups

So you actually come on here daily,
to b!tch about a team you don’t even watch anymore???
- jdfitz77

Well, I come daily to help out Hank. Give him that extra .0001 cent

I female dog about them because (frank) them, I've watched them for literally as long as I can remember, and they're absolutely poopting on what few fans they have left by not even bothering to make it look like they're trying. (frank) them.

Oh for sure and I have this argument or convo a lot when people get up in arms for apparently leveraging future or picks for the present. Sometimes fans think too much about the business optics (if that makes sense.). Take Toronto - they have matthews marker Tavares (still in prime window) nylander rielly as their stand outs. This is their window now. If they get rid of a prospect who may or may not pan out down the road (think Robertson) or a 2nd rd or even a mid to low end 1st rd for some depth or higher end d to make a run - so be it and they should.
If you keep being in that middle area of being a contender but never really committing while you’re big time players are still under contract or 8n prime you will just a really good for years with no cups
- Big23Questions

Agreed. LA Rams are an example too. People underestimate how hard winning it all is.

The Bruins have been maybe the most consistently good team since 2010 and have 1 cup.

I couldn’t care less about picks anymore.

Agreed. LA Rams are an example too. People underestimate how hard winning it all is.

The Bruins have been maybe the most consistently good team since 2010 and have 1 cup.

I couldn’t care less about picks anymore.
- sbroads24

Yup - and unless you hit a home run in the 2nd or beyond rds of draft or of course get a Top 15 pick, you could maybe or maybe not get a quality player. With that too in this cap era comes the risk of pouring resources in and organizational time into developing the player for them to elect to not sign after entry deal and leaving.

Well, I come daily to help out Hank. Give him that extra .0001 cent

I female dog about them because (frank) them, I've watched them for literally as long as I can remember, and they're absolutely poopting on what few fans they have left by not even bothering to make it look like they're trying. (frank) them.
- Wetbandit1

So when Hank is done blogging then you’ll stop coming to complain about the team u supposedly don't care about anymore?

Don’t worry….
there will be PLENTY of ppl still here b!tching about the Sabres

I don't know what to make of it. McTavish got the typical vanilla max salary, near max bonuses all 3 years. Power, Beniers, and Johnson all got strange looking, nearly identical deals. So it's not just the Sabres, but it's unusual. I guess top picks signing late in the season is unusual as well.
- Lunaion

Power signed
Why does it matter AT ALL if he took a little less than maximum?

Yup - and unless you hit a home run in the 2nd or beyond rds of draft or of course get a Top 15 pick, you could maybe or maybe not get a quality player. With that too in this cap era comes the risk of pouring resources in and organizational time into developing the player for them to elect to not sign after entry deal and leaving.
- Big23Questions

Yeah I’d be fine cautious drafting too many more college players for the next few years.

If they lose two of those guys that’s a pretty big hit

Power signed
Why does it matter AT ALL if he took a little less than maximum?
- jdfitz77

If it ISN'T interesting to you, why jump in?

If it ISN'T interesting to you, why jump in?
- Lunaion

Bc there was just page after page of something that doesn’t matter at all
I was trying to find out if there was some sort of point i was missing??

Bc there was just page after page of something that doesn’t matter at all
I was trying to find out if there was some sort of point i was missing??
- jdfitz77

some people find it interesting

some people find it interesting
- Lunaion

🙋‍♂️

some people find it interesting
- Lunaion

Seemed like some ppl were somehow trying to tie together Power not signing for the absolute max with Portillo & Levi & maybe Johnson going back to school
That would be quite the reach imo

Having a top 10 C was supposed to help, but management didn't care about winning and pushed him out the door
- Wetbandit1

Omg stop

Seemed like some ppl were somehow trying to tie together Power not sure going for the absolute max with Portillo & Levi & maybe Johnson going back to school
That would be quite the reach imo
- jdfitz77

Wouldn't say they are directly related, but the concern that this is a budget organization isn't going away until they do something significant to show us otherwise. That's going to flow into a lot of topics.

Wouldn't say they are directly related, but the concern that this is a budget organization isn't going away until they do something significant to show us otherwise. That's going to flow into a lot of topics.
- Lunaion

Even if the Sabres are a ”budget organization” like u say, Power signed- so that doesn’t back up the (presumed) point that the Sabres are being cheap & that’s somehow hurting us
It’s the ultimate in mental gymnastics to try & turn Power’s signing into a negative

I get the last 2 seasons were shortened but 7 & 14 and this season 30 - Not so much for 9M cap hit

He’s a solid hockey player but that’s a stinky contract man - terrible signing off of one 40 goal season
- Big23Questions

No, no. You actually do not "get it". The last 2 seasons were coached by literally the worst coach in NHL history, and he buried Skinner on the 4th line, instead of you know, playing him with the 10 million dollar center he was signed to play next to after scoring 40 goals on his wing and getting a 9 million dollar contract for doing so.

Then, surprise, surprise, two years later that 10 million dollar center demands a trade for a multitude of reasons and Skinner, who had been buried on the 4th line, gets to play on line 1 again and miraculously is a 30 goal scorer again.

I've always been a fan of Skinner, but yes, he has always been inconsistent. But he played on a terrible Hurricanes team for years, and the 4 years leading into his big contract, he scored 28, 37, 24 and then 40 goals. Suddenly, the new Sabres coach decided that he deserved to play with Johan Larsson, and Zemgus Girgensons... And the next year it got even worse, playing with Cody Eakin, Tobias Rieder, Riley Sheahan, Curtis Lazar...

Easily still 20 goal seasons both years with a competent coach. Literally no one could score in his system last year. We set a record for most losses in a row. And most years missing the playoffs. And the coach is a career con-man.

You're clueless.