rarely do you trade away your best players and get better, Vancouver fans are as dumb as the rest of the leagues fans.

Much like the trade deadline you’ll probably see moves that are not meant to return immediate results, but rather, to address cap issues and build towards the future knowing the teams best players player are all relatively young. The exception being Miller, who’s on an expiring contract and should be moved either this summer or at some point next season.
- LeftCoaster

Teams trade away their best players and get better all the time.
- 1970vintage

It entirely depends on the returns, which are rarely in the favor of the team trading the best player. So I disagree.

If you go into next season with OEL, Myers and Hughes you have roughly 25% of your entire cap taken up by 3 guys, none of which is really a #1 dman.
- 1970vintage

Yes I get that I just think it’s premature to move Hughes. The new regime has some unraveling to do & add what they see is needed. This offseason will be very interesting. After then will be the next phase. Just my take. If cap allocation on F’s is done well I don’t mind more spent on D if the right piece is added. Idk who that piece would be or how it's attained. It explain my Boeser trade & begins the retool.

Garland maybe the only one gone. I’m fine with keeping the rest. Brock won’t make his qualifying offer. A deal will be signed for less or he’s traded as well. Miller will be here until at least the next trade deadline when the playoff picture is more clear. Hughes is going nowhere and Bo would get a haul but he’s here for the long run.
- Supirium99

That is a highly likely scenario.

Agreed.

I think he gets a bit more though if he keeps the pace up. Someone will pay hard. I’d like him to stay honestly but we won’t be able to afford him by then. When he wants 7 years 9+ mill.
- Supirium99

Canucks have to make it through next year and the one after and that is when the cap is expected to go up so maybe for one year they bite the bullet with some lower cap signings or they move another piece.

If Canucks like what they have there is no reason why they can't bring everyone back.

I don't know how some new guys like Lockwood Bains Karlsson will work out but you can ride them for one year. A year or two of a cheap contract like Chaisson . Many different ways to move.

Two years is a ways away. Free agent signing. A surprise pick. Anything can happen. There’s no way either of them walk away for nothing. I’m hoping this new management team has a better head on their shoulders than that.
- Supirium99

If they go into next season without an extension for both those guys, then there is a real possibility that they lose both for nothing. I’m not saying it will happen, but if they are a playoff team, or close you think they would trade either at the deadline?

rarely do you trade away your best players and immediately get better, Vancouver fans are as dumb as the rest of the leagues fans.

Much like the trade deadline you’ll probably see moves that are not meant to return immediate results, but rather, to address cap issues and build towards the future knowing the teams best players player are all relatively young. The exception being Miller, who’s on an expiring contract and should be moved either this summer or at some point next season.
- LeftCoaster

This is what smart money would expect. Miller will be an intriguing topic all next season. 1st up is if he resigns this summer then it goes from there.

It entirely depends on the returns, which are rarely in the favor of the team trading the best player. So I disagree.
- LeftCoaster

Boston traded Ray Bourque in ‘99-‘00 and improved the next season. Then five years later traded Joe Thornton and improved again.

Neither of those deals did everything on their own.

Duchesne and O’Reilly from Colorado.

And Miller is the best Canuck, yet you are campaigning for him to be traded so…

Agreed.

I think he gets a bit more though if he keeps the pace up. Someone will pay hard. I’d like him to stay honestly but we won’t be able to afford him by then. When he wants 7 years 9+ mill.
- Supirium99

If he wants 7/9m+ he’s not getting it from any team. Less term then a maybe but still see it being 4/8.5-9m maybe 5/8m if we’re lucky.

It entirely depends on the returns, which are rarely in the favor of the team trading the best player. So I disagree.
- LeftCoaster

This 👍

If they go into next season without an extension for both those guys, then there is a real possibility that they lose both for nothing. I’m not saying it will happen, but if they are a playoff team, or close you think they would trade either at the deadline?
- 1970vintage

If a PO team & on the upswing there is more incentive to resign on both sides. If a bubble team then the risk looms for real. Good thing there is plenty time til then.

If they go into next season without an extension for both those guys, then there is a real possibility that they lose both for nothing. I’m not saying it will happen, but if they are a playoff team, or close you think they would trade either at the deadline?
- 1970vintage

If contract talks are poop, I’d hope the do. Playoff race or not. The reality of this team letting players walk for nothing is disgusting, yet true. Maximizing returns on assets should be preschool for these GM’s. then again I’m just an armchair GM trying to make sense too.

Canucks have to make it through next year and the one after and that is when the cap is expected to go up so maybe for one year they bite the bullet with some lower cap signings or they move another piece.

If Canucks like what they have there is no reason why they can't bring everyone back.

I don't know how some new guys like Lockwood Bains Karlsson will work out but you can ride them for one year. A year or two of a cheap contract like Chaisson . Many different ways to move.
- VANTEL

Boston traded Ray Bourque in ‘99-‘00 and improved the next season. Then five years later traded Joe Thornton and improved again.

Neither of those deals did everything on their own.

Duchesne and O’Reilly from Colorado.

And Miller is the best Canuck, yet you are campaigning for him to be traded so…
- 1970vintage

Buffalo traded O’Reilly
Buffalo traded Eichel
Neither has worked out

Nordiques traded Lindros
- Hello Stanley

If contract talks are poop, I’d hope the do. Playoff race or not. The reality of this team letting players walk for nothing is disgusting, yet true. Maximizing returns on assets should be preschool for these GM’s. then again I’m just an armchair GM trying to make sense too.
- Supirium99

All true other than the new regime isn’t accountable for past regimes. New Posse in town lol

Boston traded Ray Bourque in ‘99-‘00 and improved the next season. Then five years later traded Joe Thornton and improved again.

Neither of those deals did everything on their own.

Duchesne and O’Reilly from Colorado.

And Miller is the best Canuck, yet you are campaigning for him to be traded so…
- 1970vintage

Boston did not get better because they traded Bourque, you’re just being obtuse. Not to mention, you’re example is a 23 year old one and I said “rarely”, not never.

Furthermore, while you are technically correct, the Bruins collectively had a better season, it had almost nothing to do with trading Bourque. Joe Thornton was coming into his own, Jason Allison played a full season after only playing 30 something games the year before and they traded for Bill Guerin from Edmonton.

And regarding Miller, as I said, I’m not expecting immediate results to improve the team if Miller’s traded.

All true other than the new regime isn’t accountable for past regimes. New Posse in town lol
- Nighthawk

For sure. They deserve a chance. Just that history is hard to ignore. I’m open minded and ready for change.

Buffalo traded O’Reilly
Buffalo traded Eichel
Neither has worked out

Nordiques traded Lindros
- Hello Stanley
- Nighthawk

If they don’t cock things up, Buffalo is looking pretty good moving forward. I bet they are better next year than this, after trading their best player. And Thomson is looking like a pretty good throw in from the ROR trade…

Boston did not get better because they traded Bourque, you’re just being obtuse. Not to mention, you’re example is a 23 year old one and I said “rarely”, not never.

Furthermore, while you are technically correct, the Bruins collectively had a better season, it had almost nothing to do with trading Bourque. Joe Thornton was coming into his own, Jason Allison played a full season after only playing 30 something games the year before and they traded for Bill Guerin from Edmonton.

And regarding Miller, as I said, I’m not expecting immediate results to improve the team if Miller’s traded.
- LeftCoaster

You want your fish and to eat it too.

And I’ll take technically correct

Buffalo traded O’Reilly
Buffalo traded Eichel
Neither has worked out

Nordiques traded Lindros
- Hello Stanley
- Nighthawk

Lindros was never their best player not having played for them.

You want your fish and to eat it too.
- 1970vintage

I want them to build something meaningful, unlike Benning who just threw poop against the wall to see what sticks. They’ve got a few good building blocks from Benning losing so Goddamn much, I’d like to see them build on that. It’s not going to happen immediately but we’ve been waiting this long, what’s a few more years.

Build a proper defensive core that is heavier, taller, can transition the puck better and is way more mobile. Target a good young center in a Miller trade or a young defensemen. It can certainly be done, but it isn’t going to be done in one offseason.

I want them to build something meaningful, unlike Benning who just threw poop against the wall to see what sticks. They’ve got a few good building blocks from Benning losing so Goddamn much, I’d like to see them build on that. It’s not going to happen immediately but we’ve been waiting this long, what’s a few more years.

Build a proper defensive core that is heavier, bigger, can transition the puck better and is way more mobile. Target a good young center in a Miller trade or a young defensemen. It can certainly be done, but it isn’t going to be done in one offseason.
- LeftCoaster

So your saying we’re two years away from being two years away…

So your saying we’re two years away from being two years away…
- 1970vintage

rarely do you trade away your best players and immediately get better, Vancouver fans are as dumb as the rest of the leagues fans.

Much like the trade deadline you’ll probably see moves that are not meant to return immediate results, but rather, to address cap issues and build towards the future knowing the teams best players player are all relatively young. The exception being Miller, who’s on an expiring contract and should be moved either this summer or at some point next season.
- LeftCoaster

Amen.

We could start talking about Hughes because surely enough we have not heard enough ridiculous takes on him for the last two years
- VANTEL

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