I guess it won't take fans this time around to get fed up with ownership, keeping the same GM since moving from Atlanta with the same results from Atlanta. I guess the fans better start looking Houston coming for this version of the Jets!

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one
- Ross77

The problem with this idea, is that while you may be able to replace Scheifele with a 2023 pick or prospect in a return, you will not have another Hellebuyck by 2-3 years time.

I think it is time for a change in Winnipeg, but it shouldn't involve Hellbuyck, unless you are bringing in Knight, Cossa, Wallstedt, or Askarov. A player like Adam Fantilli would be a good pickup for the JEts in 2023 if they get a top-8 pick and can land him, outside of the obvious Bedard and Michkov, who are two generational talents.

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one
- Ross77

What you are suggesting, the possibility of trading Scheifele and Helle has certainly crossed my mind, because, like you say, they are UFA's in two years.

The prime time to trade them would be now IMO. Both are elite players - and you'd expect to get back a player, prospect and pick for both wouldn't you?

My gut feeling says Scheif does not want to play in The Peg any longer. Ether that or lack of energy is because of injury or personal issue. I suspect it's the first, he just wants out.

Helle is hard to figure. He seemed perfectly happy as a Jet (and maybe still is) but he was upset with the Covid situation last fall, so maybe he still is upset - and who knows?

Regardless, we can NOT go into 2022/23 with the same team as this season. Something is terribly wrong in that locker room. No desperation until it's too late. I see Wheeler stepping down as captain after this season, I think it's wearing on him. Next captain - Ehlers or PLD!

Certainly the coaching staff needs a wholesale change. But doubt that will be enough unless we make some major changes. Can see two of Pionk, DeMelo, Schmidt and Dillon leaving town - perhaps one with a package with Scheifele?

A trade involving Helle would have to have to include a young tender coming back this way. A Scheifele trade would hopefully include a young centre - unless they feel Perfetti can handle those duties. In that case a winger would be fine.

The problem with this idea, is that while you may be able to replace Scheifele with a 2023 pick or prospect in a return, you will not have another Hellebuyck by 2-3 years time.

I think it is time for a change in Winnipeg, but it shouldn't involve Hellbuyck, unless you are bringing in Knight, Cossa, Wallstedt, or Askarov. A player like Adam Fantilli would be a good pickup for the JEts in 2023 if they get a top-8 pick and can land him, outside of the obvious Bedard and Michkov, who are two generational talents.
- Jacob Billington

you are right, i would want Helle's replacement ( top goalie prospect ) in one of the Helle or Sheif trade. Perfetti may already be the in house as the sheif replacement or a young center coming back in the trade, so I wasn't thinking the Shief replacement wouldn't be here for 2-3 years via next years draft.

I like the goalies you mentioned and have already said I think the Jets may regret drafting Lucious over Wallsteadt. my plan would make more sense with Wallsteadt already in the system.

maybe Florida will eat half of Bob's contract, no ones taking him at 10 mil per, or they would be interested in Shief??? and knight could be part of that deal??

there are a few teams with strong depth in their goalie pipelines and they wont have room for them all? Buffalo for example, could hometown Levi be an option for Winnipeg?

you are right, i would want Helle's replacement ( top goalie prospect ) in one of the Helle or Sheif trade. Perfetti may already be the in house as the sheif replacement or a young center coming back in the trade, so I wasn't thinking the Shief replacement wouldn't be here for 2-3 years via next years draft.

I like the goalies you mentioned and have already said I think the Jets may regret drafting Lucious over Wallsteadt. my plan would make more sense with Wallsteadt already in the system.

maybe Florida will eat half of Bob's contract, no ones taking him at 10 mil per, or they would be interested in Shief??? and knight could be part of that deal??
- Ross77

I think the plan is to keep Bobrovsky for the whole contract. He has 4 seasons after this year, and though yes he makes a lot, it is actually quite a buy-out friendly contract if it comes to that. Knight has 1 more year after this on his ELC, and then will likely sign somewhere around the 3x3 mark before cashing out. By the time that deal is up, it will be easy to move Bob, whether it be a trade as he is only owed $6.5 in each of his last two years, or a cheap buyout. I don't think wither of these guys are going anywhere.

I think the plan is to keep Bobrovsky for the whole contract. He has 4 seasons after this year, and though yes he makes a lot, it is actually quite a buy-out friendly contract if it comes to that. Knight has 1 more year after this on his ELC, and then will likely sign somewhere around the 3x3 mark before cashing out. By the time that deal is up, it will be easy to move Bob, whether it be a trade as he is only owed $6.5 in each of his last two years, or a cheap buyout. I don't think wither of these guys are going anywhere.
- Jacob Billington

the problem with a Bob buyout is not the cash owed to him its the cap hit to the team.. look no further than the cap issues Minny is going to have for the next 3 years due to the Parise / Suter buyouts.

I reckon you’ve listed their only weak spots
- Rexypoo

Seems to be working for the Flames, 2nd least goals against in the league at 188, only one more allowed than the Canes.

Absolutely hilarious(and pathetic) that Gudbranson and Zadorov are more productive at even strength than any Jets bottom six forward.

For me, the way too many grades are as follows:

A+: Morrissey, Ehlers, Perfetti, Comrie
A: Connor, Dubois, Hellebuyck, DeMelo, Svechnikov, Copp (RIP)
B: Stastny, Schmidt, Reichel
C: Scheifele, Lowry, Appleton, Sanford, Wheeler
D: Pionk, Harkins, Toninato, Brooks
F: Stanley, Dillon

Heinola, Samberg, Barron, and Chisholm are all squarely in the category of “need more info, but very promising so far”
- Rexypoo

Ha! Come on, Dillon should get a B at least and A.Lowry a D-.

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one
- Ross77

I don't Ross and I question even if they did would you want to sign them longterm?? Especially Helle, I'm not sure he's a goalie thats gonna age well.

If they don't want to be here ya gotta move them, cant have a repeat of the Trouba or 2019 TDL, need to move guys sooner to get a better return(Trouba) and can't keep them as own rentals and get nothing for them like all the UFA's at that TDL(Myers, Chiarot, Tanev, etc.).

Rip the band-aid off sooner and get over the pain sooner.

I think most fans just want to see a rational plan of some kind, either really go for it or move some guys with a retool to be better in the near future, this mushy middle of stumbling along is not working, its only making things worse if anything.

I guess it won't take fans this time around to get fed up with ownership, keeping the same GM since moving from Atlanta with the same results from Atlanta. I guess the fans better start looking Houston coming for this version of the Jets!
- IBleedBlu1

Yup they're back to being the Winnipeg Thrashers.. 🤣

Ownership better be careful, if they were at least putting an entertaining product on the ice some of this mess could be tolerated but they're not, aside from a few players this team isn't entertaining to watch anymore and hasn't been for awhile, hiring coaches that seem to love and believe in a boring brand of hockey doesn't help either.

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one
- Ross77

While I do not disagree with what your are saying. This would essentially mean that Chevel363daysoff would have to admit that he has failed in his attempt at roster building. I do not see this happening with him at the helm.

honest question, does anyone see Shief and Helle re signing here? they are UFA"s in 2 years.

this may not be what people want to hear but this team should strongly consider trading both this summer if you dont see them re signing.

the 2023 draft is supposedly extremely strong throughout the first round, not just at the top!! Both Shief and Helle would bring back first rounders plus top prospects. We tank for 1 year, just 1 year!! give us a lottery shot at Bedard but have at least 3 first rounders in a very strong draft.

Teams that wait to long to embrace a re build drag their rebuild out longer, I'd rather a quicker 2-3 year one then a 4-5 year one
- Ross77

This would change the team identity and culture immediately, also dealing a couple veteran defencemen in the process to achieve this. Wholesale coaching change to kickstart a retool augmented by a lotto pick next year.

This would change the team identity and culture immediately, also dealing a couple veteran defencemen in the process to achieve this. Wholesale coaching change to kickstart a retool augmented by a lotto pick next year.
- Jetlag

I honestly think this is the right move. we could gain 2 extra first rounders in 2023 draft which is rumored to be an extremely deep first round!! having 3 first rounders in 2023 could be franchise altering!!! plus more picks and prospects to build from!! I'm just not sure this team can compete in the next two years, so make the moves now.

I honestly think this is the right move. we could gain 2 extra first rounders in 2023 draft which is rumored to be an extremely deep first round!! having 3 first rounders in 2023 could be franchise altering!!! plus more picks and prospects to build from!! I'm just not sure this team can compete in the next two years, so make the moves now.
- Ross77

The 2023 draft could be as strong as ever. You do have to remember though that it typically takes draft picks (unless they are absolutely extraordinary) 3-4 years to fully recognize their potential and with the plan you are suggesting, this team will not be competitive until at least 2027. Does this fan base have that much patience?

The 2023 draft could be as strong as ever. You do have to remember though that it typically takes draft picks (unless they are absolutely extraordinary) 3-4 years to fully recognize their potential and with the plan you are suggesting, this team will not be competitive until at least 2027. Does this fan base have that much patience?
- TheUltimateJet

If the Jets can have a draft like the the Stars getting Stankoven and Wyatt Johnston in the first two rounds, especially after the Stars got Mavrik Bourque and my personal favourite prospect, Antonio Stranges the year before.

Obviously, the most ideal draft would be the Senators 2020 year, where they managed to pick up Tim Stutzle, Jake Sanderson and Ridly Greig in the first round.

Recent years have shown the potential impact of a one-draft rebuild potential. Obviously the time to develop is a bit longer, but the real work is finding the diamonds in the rough.

This coming offseason, I will be looking at what the Jets should do at the draft. This will be in a separate article from the shape of the team, but rather just what should be done on draft day, and look at the Jets drafting habits.

If the Jets can have a draft like the the Stars getting Stankoven and Wyatt Johnston in the first two rounds, especially after the Stars got Mavrik Bourque and my personal favourite prospect, Antonio Stranges the year before.

Obviously, the most ideal draft would be the Senators 2020 year, where they managed to pick up Tim Stutzle, Jake Sanderson and Ridly Greig in the first round.

Recent years have shown the potential impact of a one-draft rebuild potential. Obviously the time to develop is a bit longer, but the real work is finding the diamonds in the rough.

This coming offseason, I will be looking at what the Jets should do at the draft. This will be in a separate article from the shape of the team, but rather just what should be done on draft day, and look at the Jets drafting habits.
- Jacob Billington

This is something that Chevy has been bad at. His drafting record outside the first round is abysmal.

This is something that Chevy has been bad at. His drafting record outside the first round is abysmal.
- TheUltimateJet

I wouldn't say abysmal. In recent years, off the top of my head, 2nd round picks were good with Chibrikov, Torgersson, and Gustafsson, Samberg, and you could argue Harkins too, while he turned out to be a good asset for the 4th line, he isn't 2nd rounder value, and then in later rounds you have Nikkanen, Smith, Chisholm, Gawanke, and Kovacevic.

That is not bad, as I could see all of these guys being NHL players in the next 1-3 years. Maybe not all for the Jets, but could be solid middle-six guys found in the later rounds.

I wouldn't say abysmal. In recent years, off the top of my head, 2nd round picks were good with Chibrikov, Torgersson, and Gustafsson, Samberg, and you could argue Harkins too, while he turned out to be a good asset for the 4th line, he isn't 2nd rounder value, and then in later rounds you have Nikkanen, Smith, Chisholm, Gawanke, and Kovacevic.

That is not bad, as I could see all of these guys being NHL players in the next 1-3 years. Maybe not all for the Jets, but could be solid middle-six guys found in the later rounds.
- Jacob Billington

The draft picks always sound good. See Nik Petan, however most amount to doing nothing in the NHL. We have witnessed 11 years of promises and none have delivered thus far.

The draft picks always sound good. See Nik Petan, however most amount to doing nothing in the NHL. We have witnessed 11 years of promises and none have delivered thus far.
- TheUltimateJet

I'd love Petan on the Jets right now, he looks good in Van!!

I'd love Petan on the Jets right now, he looks good in Van!!
- Ross77

So I would then argue that the drafting isn't the issue, but rather the development. This is something that has to change. I may take a further look into the development process than I did in the mailbag, and how prospects come into the Jets organization out of Junior/over seas/NCAA

I will look at when they come over, how long they spend in each league, and how they develop. Thoughts on this?

So I would then argue that the drafting isn't the issue, but rather the development. This is something that has to change. I may take a further look into the development process than I did in the mailbag, and how prospects come into the Jets organization out of Junior/over seas/NCAA

I will look at when they come over, how long they spend in each league, and how they develop. Thoughts on this?
- Jacob Billington

I like this idea, but you'd have to do a few teams. not just the Jets to show any differences from team to team.

I like this idea, but you'd have to do a few teams. not just the Jets to show any differences from team to team.
- Ross77

Very true. I will have a look at some teams with great draft and develop systems, as well as some poor ones. Maybe a few random ones too

So I would then argue that the drafting isn't the issue, but rather the development. This is something that has to change. I may take a further look into the development process than I did in the mailbag, and how prospects come into the Jets organization out of Junior/over seas/NCAA

I will look at when they come over, how long they spend in each league, and how they develop. Thoughts on this?
- Jacob Billington

See the Jets signed free agent centre Wyatt Bongiovanni from the NCAA.

Don't know much about him, but his stats look decent.

Jacob, know anything about the guy?