Jack really looked disinterested again. It's wishful thinking probably, but I can smell some trouble brewin over there.
- RhinoFan

They can't be thrilled with 21p in 29gp

They can't be thrilled with 21p in 29gp
- Hank Balling

Que up the "he's had a year off crowd" who were grousing last week when he had a little streak going.

I don't think he is disinterested. I just don't think he is used to not having the puck all of the time. That might also explain why his defensive metrics are better.
- Slump Buster

Maybe that's it, I just saw a lot more coasting than the Calgary game.

Better Business Bureau?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Better Beane Bureau

Que up the "he's had a year off crowd" who were grousing last week when he had a little streak going.
- lacaprup

It's still a small sample size. If he's not a PPG player next year, though, it will be fair to wonder how much he lost with the surgery

They can't be thrilled with 21p in 29gp
- Hank Balling

Larry has 6 points in 8 games, higher ppg than Eichel. OG Larry 1C next season? Gonna go home and pray on it.

So I watched a lot of last night's game - very exciting. I didn't know that the Devils were such a good, young, fast team. Lindy had them flying.

It was also the first time that I've seen Jack play with what should be his regular line. This may sound weird but I don't know if Jack knows how to play without the puck. After he, when he was here he played with guys that were not known to be puck carriers so he got to have the puck all of the time. While Stone is a winger he is clearly a guy that is used to having the puck. I don't know... there just seems to be something that isn't quite right with that team.
- Slump Buster

Funny, I had some "insider " information from an old friend at the flyers game.

Apparently eichel demanded skimmer play on a different line. Maybe he didnt like splitting time without the puck too?

My follow up question,

Why?

Apparently he wanted to score more goals, skimmer was shooting (40 goals) too much 😀😀😀

Larry has 6 points in 8 games, higher ppg than Eichel. OG Larry 1C next season? Gonna go home and pray on it.
- TheSabresTaco

That crazy son of a female dog finally did it. He broke 20 points.

They can't be thrilled with 21p in 29gp
- Hank Balling

They are not. I follow a lot of Vegas peeps, they are mostly talking about Pete and Lehner, but a buddy posted something I hadn't thought about:

While it isn't Jack's fault, Tuch's extra 15 points this year is probably going to be the reason we won't make the playoffs.

That's a tough way to start.

That crazy son of a female dog finally did it. He broke 20 points.
- Hank Balling

You wanna know who else is on pace to break 20 points in 82 games?

Funny, I had some "insider " information from an old friend at the flyers game.

Apparently eichel demanded skimmer play on a different line. Maybe he didnt like splitting time without the puck too?

My follow up question,

Why?

Apparently he wanted to score more goals, skimmer was shooting (40 goals) too much 😀😀😀
- Boss34

Come on? Seriously? That's like gasoline on a fire. I hope Skinner knows that.

They are not. I follow a lot of Vegas peeps, they are mostly talking about Pete and Lehner, but a buddy posted something I hadn't thought about:

While it isn't Jack's fault, Tuch's extra 15 points this year is probably going to be the reason we won't make the playoffs.

That's a tough way to start.
- RhinoFan

But he was used differently there. One would never know how many points Jack would have here or Tuch would have there. I get the point, though.

Funny, I had some "insider " information from an old friend at the flyers game.

Apparently eichel demanded skimmer play on a different line. Maybe he didnt like splitting time without the puck too?

My follow up question,

Why?

Apparently he wanted to score more goals, skimmer was shooting (40 goals) too much 😀😀😀
- Boss34

That's pretty nuts if true. I assume about half the stuff I hear about Jack is probably fabricated, but if even half is truth, he is a wild boy.

They are not. I follow a lot of Vegas peeps, they are mostly talking about Pete and Lehner, but a buddy posted something I hadn't thought about:

While it isn't Jack's fault, Tuch's extra 15 points this year is probably going to be the reason we won't make the playoffs.

That's a tough way to start.
- RhinoFan

I think a lot people (myself included) underestimated how good Tuch is

There's also a case to be made that their identity as a rag tag group of misfit toys has run its course. They're mostly mercenaries for hire at this point.

You wanna know who else is on pace to break 20 points in 82 games?
- TheSabresTaco

Yes, yes I do

Funny, I had some "insider " information from an old friend at the flyers game.

Apparently eichel demanded skimmer play on a different line. Maybe he didnt like splitting time without the puck too?

My follow up question,

Why?

Apparently he wanted to score more goals, skimmer was shooting (40 goals) too much 😀😀😀
- Boss34

if this is true then i am glad he is gone.. all that should matter is winning no matter how you do it.

They are not. I follow a lot of Vegas peeps, they are mostly talking about Pete and Lehner, but a buddy posted something I hadn't thought about:

While it isn't Jack's fault, Tuch's extra 15 points this year is probably going to be the reason we won't make the playoffs.

That's a tough way to start.
- RhinoFan

I pointed this out yesterday - while they acquired Jack they lost an awfully good player from their roster. They also lost a guy who seems to keep everyone pretty light.

Come on? Seriously? That's like gasoline on a fire. I hope Skinner knows that.
- lacaprup

That's seriously what I heard....

Not sure if its 100% true, but eichel did score more goals without skimmer.

The shoe fits....

But he was used differently there. One would never know how many points Jack would have here or Tuch would have there. I get the point, though.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah, never know and there's no fault, just bad luck. I did flash on it though.

That's pretty nuts if true. I assume about half the stuff I hear about Jack is probably fabricated, but if even half is truth, he is a wild boy.
- RhinoFan

Could absolutely be a partial truth.

The more I thought about it, the more it sounded right.

Eichel was the captain and probably had a loud voice thru out the organization. The Sabres were trying to appease the jerk at every turn.
Considering we had a soccer coach running the show, it really wouldn't/ didnt shock me.
A long time nhl coach would have a backbone and say, "you do your job" ect.

Thought I would share.

Could absolutely be a partial truth.

The more I thought about it, the more it sounded right.

Eichel was the captain and probably had a loud voice thru out the organization. The Sabres were trying to appease the jerk at every turn.
Considering we had a soccer coach running the show, it really wouldn't/ didnt shock me.
A long time nhl coach would have a backbone and say, "you do your job" ect.

Thought I would share.
- Boss34

The only thing that I can say that would throw cold water on that is that Skinnner had gone cold on Eichel's line long before he was eventually removed from it. But that could actually be the reason that Jack might have wanted him off of the line - if Skinner wasn't scoring then he was dragging down Jack's assists.

I think a lot people (myself included) underestimated how good Tuch is

There's also a case to be made that their identity as a rag tag group of misfit toys has run its course. They're mostly mercenaries for hire at this point.
- Hank Balling

They don't have that camaraderie feel anymore because they pulled those identities out of the room. They don't have a future because they traded Krebs, Suzuki, Glass, Brannstrom, Veleno, Texier, TVR, and Alex (frank)in Tuch. I smell a full rebuild in 3 years or less.

Yes, yes I do
- Hank Balling

The only thing that I can say that would throw cold water on that is that Skinnner had gone cold on Eichel's line long before he was eventually removed from it. But that could actually be the reason that Jack might have wanted him off of the line - if Skinner wasn't scoring then he was dragging down Jack's assists.
- Slump Buster

That's a very good point.

Jack was worried about Jack

Some guys worry about the team 1st

They don't have that camaraderie feel anymore because they pulled those identities out of the room. They don't have a future because they traded Krebs, Suzuki, Glass, Brannstrom, Veleno, Texier, TVR, and Alex (frank)in Tuch. I smell a full rebuild in 3 years or less.
- TheSabresTaco

They couldn't rebuild if they wanted to - they have too many immovable contracts. The only thing they can do is continue to double down. And in the short term that will be ok as they do have a ton of talent on the roster. The problem is that most of their good players are on the back halves of their careers.