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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:06 PM ET
just tuned in..... what is going on?
- rayc16

habs tanking harder than us
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 21 @ 9:10 PM ET
habs tanking harder than us
- 2Real

apparently
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 21 @ 9:13 PM ET
I’d be shocked if the Habs win another game this season playing like this.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 21 @ 9:24 PM ET
well played Habs, securing 2nd overall, not gonna be denied
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Apr 21 @ 9:31 PM ET
Brink is playing like how we hoped Frost would play. Confident with the puck on his stick and always creating.

Edit: Frost just had a great shift too. Hopefully he's getting some confidence back.

- fishbulb


I agree with this! I like what I've seen of Brink so far. There's definitely a confidence there and it shows.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 21 @ 9:33 PM ET
Cates needs to knock that crap off the last 4 games, come on
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:33 PM ET
well (frank) this i hope we steal the habs draft spot
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 21 @ 9:34 PM ET
Here comes the Flyers winning 4 of the last 5 to end the season
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 21 @ 9:35 PM ET
Snipe
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
this team is doomed for the next decade cause they're not dedicated to the tank
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:37 PM ET
Real goaltending battle going on here
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 21 @ 9:40 PM ET
Real goaltending battle going on here
- Dkos

What the heck was that last one lol
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 21 @ 9:43 PM ET
Devils have 2 home games with DET @ home. Still feel good about 4th. 3rd is a little dicey now.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:43 PM ET
Devastating win.

One of those you look back on at the end of the season with regret about what might have been.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Apr 21 @ 9:46 PM ET
Here comes the Flyers winning 4 of the last 5 to end the season
- hereticpride


Ha! They play better when there's no pressure! Look at JVR lately.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 21 @ 11:01 PM ET
I just wanted to stop by and offer my congrats to Yandle for finding a way to still be a -2 tonight in 7 minutes of ice time. You da man!!
Sanheim with almost 30 minutes of ice time tonight. He's been playing pretty good since ummmmmm, ah, forget it. I was gonna say since Risto went out of the lineup, but didn't want to go there. Whooops....guess I just did.

On a somewhat more serious note, I am liking Brink's game more and more with each game. Yeah, I know it was the dreadful Habs tonight, but he actually makes plays with the puck and despite his size he battles for the puck and wins some of those battles. Perhaps Frosty can take notes. Thanks!
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 21 @ 11:26 PM ET
Damn it
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 22 @ 12:01 AM ET
I just wanted to stop by and offer my congrats to Yandle for finding a way to still be a -2 tonight in 7 minutes of ice time. You da man!!
Sanheim with almost 30 minutes of ice time tonight. He's been playing pretty good since ummmmmm, ah, forget it. I was gonna say since Risto went out of the lineup, but didn't want to go there. Whooops....guess I just did.

On a somewhat more serious note, I am liking Brink's game more and more with each game. Yeah, I know it was the dreadful Habs tonight, but he actually makes plays with the puck and despite his size he battles for the puck and wins some of those battles. Perhaps Frosty can take notes. Thanks!

- Phillywhiteout


Sanheim was playing well long before Ristolainen got hurt. His play over the last few months have been well beyond his start to the season.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 22 @ 12:09 AM ET
Here comes the Flyers winning 4 of the last 5 to end the season
- hereticpride


You've been saying that for weeks. Its not going to happen.

WPG and PIT will beat PHI 100%. Flyers wont be able to compete with these 2 teams

It is unlikely they beat CHI or OTT but possible. I highly doubt this team can shutdown Kane, Jones Debrincat and Tkachuk, Stuzle, Norris, Batherson. Have also heard whispers that theres a very very small chance Chabot could return and play a few games before the season ends
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 22 @ 12:25 AM ET
TK has played well since G got traded.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
You've been saying that for weeks. Its not going to happen.

WPG and PIT will beat PHI 100%. Flyers wont be able to compete with these 2 teams

It is unlikely they beat CHI or OTT but possible. I highly doubt this team can shutdown Kane, Jones Debrincat and Tkachuk, Stuzle, Norris, Batherson. Have also heard whispers that theres a very very small chance Chabot could return and play a few games before the season ends

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

could use the charity
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 22 @ 3:53 AM ET
I just wanted to stop by and offer my congrats to Yandle for finding a way to still be a -2 tonight in 7 minutes of ice time. You da man!!
Sanheim with almost 30 minutes of ice time tonight. He's been playing pretty good since ummmmmm, ah, forget it. I was gonna say since Risto went out of the lineup, but didn't want to go there. Whooops....guess I just did.

On a somewhat more serious note, I am liking Brink's game more and more with each game. Yeah, I know it was the dreadful Habs tonight, but he actually makes plays with the puck and despite his size he battles for the puck and wins some of those battles. Perhaps Frosty can take notes. Thanks!

- Phillywhiteout


1) Frost is playing fine. He absolutely has been competing consistently, winning his share of battles, not cheating out of the zone whatsoever, and creating a healthy number of chances. I'd like him to work on his shot -- the one thing that hasn't come back 100% since the surgery, IMO -- this offseason. But his two-way game has improved by leaps and bounds. He has done everything asked of him. I fully expect a points surge out of him next season because he's right on the precipice. But I do want to see more chances turning into goals and assists for him and for Tippett as well. The Flyers need it.

2) Brink is clearly highly skilled. Last night was a game where both teams had all sorts of time and space to make plays. This offseason, he is going to be asked to trim his body fat percentage a bit and replace it with a bit more muscle. But there's no doubt about the vision, hands or work ethic.

3) Sanheim has been playing very well pretty much ever since the coaching change. Ristolainen, overall, has worked well with Sanheim. But Sanheim has taken the next step his game regardless of partner.

4) I'm not going to pile on Yandle by taking your apparent glee in his decline.

He's at the "Steve Carlton is working on a screwball because his slider has no bite anymore and his fastball is down 5-7 MPH" stage of his late career. In other words, Yandle has lost a stride-plus, and no longer brings the offensive game he once had. It is sad to see someone who had such a meritorious overall career and is so universally liked and respected within the game be a shell of himself as a player.

When the puck is in the D zone with him, it's probably not leaving. When it's up ice, you just hope there's no turnover because there's a big risk of him getting caught above the puck and being unable to recover.

The will is still there. The preparation and professionalism are still there. But Father Time always wins in the end. It's not amusing or worthy of sarcasm.

Strictly based on the merit of his played, he should not have played every game for FLA last year and then every game for the Flyers this year until he was beyond setting the ironman streak record. That's the cold reality.

It's no fun saying that about a player as beloved within hockey as he is. But it's the truth. If the streak had ended last season or one of the past occasions when he was banged up but played through it, it would have been a non-issue about scratching him for game performance-based reasons.

Yandle handled the end of the streak with tons of class and dignity. He's doing everything he can to be a positive influence on the young players who are coming through, even though he's likely in his final weeks as an NHL player.

I will be totally candid. Along with being without Ellis for all but the first three games of the season and a one-game return, the severe struggles of the third pair -- Yandle + whomever he was paired with-- were one of the biggest problems this entire season beyond the first two weeks.

Add in Braun being pressed into first-pair duty all year prior to the trade -- rather than being a steady 3rd pair vet who could be spotted higher periodically as needed. Add in Provorov, after a strong first five weeks, struggling with inconsistency until late in the season.

These have been the primary issues with the blueline. Ristolainen has his strengths and weaknesses that come along but there was WAY too much focus on him by segments of the fan base. The Flyers had and still have much bigger issues to figure out on the D corps.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Apr 22 @ 7:10 AM ET
1) Frost is playing fine. He absolutely has been competing consistently, winning his share of battles, not cheating out of the zone whatsoever, and creating a healthy number of chances. I'd like him to work on his shot -- the one thing that hasn't come back 100% since the surgery, IMO -- this offseason. But his two-way game has improved by leaps and bounds. He has done everything asked of him. I fully expect a points surge out of him next season because he's right on the precipice. But I do want to see more chances turning into goals and assists for him and for Tippett as well. The Flyers need it.

2) Brink is clearly highly skilled. Last night was a game where both teams had all sorts of time and space to make plays. This offseason, he is going to be asked to trim his body fat percentage a bit and replace it with a bit more muscle. But there's no doubt about the vision, hands or work ethic.

3) Sanheim has been playing very well pretty much ever since the coaching change. Ristolainen, overall, has worked well with Sanheim. But Sanheim has taken the next step his game regardless of partner.

4) I'm not going to pile on Yandle by taking your apparent glee in his decline.

He's at the "Steve Carlton is working on a screwball because his slider has no bite anymore and his fastball is down 5-7 MPH" stage of his late career. In other words, Yandle has lost a stride-plus, and no longer brings the offensive game he once had. It is sad to see someone who had such a meritorious overall career and is so universally liked and respected within the game be a shell of himself as a player.

When the puck is in the D zone with him, it's probably not leaving. When it's up ice, you just hope there's no turnover because there's a big risk of him getting caught above the puck and being unable to recover.

The will is still there. The preparation and professionalism are still there. But Father Time always wins in the end. It's not amusing or worthy of sarcasm.

Strictly based on the merit of his played, he should not have played every game for FLA last year and then every game for the Flyers this year until he was beyond setting the ironman streak record. That's the cold reality.

It's no fun saying that about a player as beloved within hockey as he is. But it's the truth. If the streak had ended last season or one of the past occasions when he was banged up but played through it, it would have been a non-issue about scratching him for game performance-based reasons.

Yandle handled the end of the streak with tons of class and dignity. He's doing everything he can to be a positive influence on the young players who are coming through, even though he's likely in his final weeks as an NHL player.

I will be totally candid. Along with being without Ellis for all but the first three games of the season and a one-game return, the severe struggles of the third pair -- Yandle + whomever he was paired with-- were one of the biggest problems this entire season beyond the first two weeks.

Add in Braun being pressed into first-pair duty all year prior to the trade -- rather than being a steady 3rd pair vet who could be spotted higher periodically as needed. Add in Provorov, after a strong first five weeks, struggling with inconsistency until late in the season.

These have been the primary issues with the blueline. Ristolainen has his strengths and weaknesses that come along but there was WAY too much focus on him by segments of the fan base. The Flyers had and still have much bigger issues to figure out on the D corps.

- bmeltzer

Well said. Never understood the personal anger and hate on certain players. It’s just a game.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:20 AM ET
1) Frost is playing fine. He absolutely has been competing consistently, winning his share of battles, not cheating out of the zone whatsoever, and creating a healthy number of chances. I'd like him to work on his shot -- the one thing that hasn't come back 100% since the surgery, IMO -- this offseason. But his two-way game has improved by leaps and bounds. He has done everything asked of him. I fully expect a points surge out of him next season because he's right on the precipice. But I do want to see more chances turning into goals and assists for him and for Tippett as well. The Flyers need it.

2) Brink is clearly highly skilled. Last night was a game where both teams had all sorts of time and space to make plays. This offseason, he is going to be asked to trim his body fat percentage a bit and replace it with a bit more muscle. But there's no doubt about the vision, hands or work ethic.

3) Sanheim has been playing very well pretty much ever since the coaching change. Ristolainen, overall, has worked well with Sanheim. But Sanheim has taken the next step his game regardless of partner.

4) I'm not going to pile on Yandle by taking your apparent glee in his decline.

He's at the "Steve Carlton is working on a screwball because his slider has no bite anymore and his fastball is down 5-7 MPH" stage of his late career. In other words, Yandle has lost a stride-plus, and no longer brings the offensive game he once had. It is sad to see someone who had such a meritorious overall career and is so universally liked and respected within the game be a shell of himself as a player.

When the puck is in the D zone with him, it's probably not leaving. When it's up ice, you just hope there's no turnover because there's a big risk of him getting caught above the puck and being unable to recover.

The will is still there. The preparation and professionalism are still there. But Father Time always wins in the end. It's not amusing or worthy of sarcasm.

Strictly based on the merit of his played, he should not have played every game for FLA last year and then every game for the Flyers this year until he was beyond setting the ironman streak record. That's the cold reality.

It's no fun saying that about a player as beloved within hockey as he is. But it's the truth. If the streak had ended last season or one of the past occasions when he was banged up but played through it, it would have been a non-issue about scratching him for game performance-based reasons.

Yandle handled the end of the streak with tons of class and dignity. He's doing everything he can to be a positive influence on the young players who are coming through, even though he's likely in his final weeks as an NHL player.

I will be totally candid. Along with being without Ellis for all but the first three games of the season and a one-game return, the severe struggles of the third pair -- Yandle + whomever he was paired with-- were one of the biggest problems this entire season beyond the first two weeks.

Add in Braun being pressed into first-pair duty all year prior to the trade -- rather than being a steady 3rd pair vet who could be spotted higher periodically as needed. Add in Provorov, after a strong first five weeks, struggling with inconsistency until late in the season.

These have been the primary issues with the blueline. Ristolainen has his strengths and weaknesses that come along but there was WAY too much focus on him by segments of the fan base. The Flyers had and still have much bigger issues to figure out on the D corps.

- bmeltzer


That’s a wrap
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:21 AM ET
JVR, keep going, either help trade value or build confidence for his last year

I like the combo of tippett, frost and cates, nice balance
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