Most of them have all their picks, no?

I'm not sure which teams have what, and if Allvin is looking for more established young players, emerging players, or prospects.
- NewYorkNuck

Most of them are missing picks in both years. Pretty much only CLB isn't.

It would certainly depend on what the team is offering. Cost controlled players are good but are they ones he wants or does he have his eye on a free agents.

What no one seems to mention anymore is the fact that Canucks still could stand to clear some cap space.

Most people understand the math of it.

Others are short-sighted in their outlook (Benningitis), others are short-sighted due to their senility and horrors of a rapidly diversifying world.
- NewYorkNuck

It's the enjoyment of mediocrity. Benning would always do anything to make the team better. Gillis fans that are more the problem. He gave them hope. They are still clinging onto that.

Pettersson 23
Hughes 22
Bo 27
Podk 20
Hoglander 21
Demko 26
Miller 29
Lockwood 23
Boeser 25

Maybe some of us have more patience than others.

Most people understand the math of it.

Others are short-sighted in their outlook (Benningitis), others are short-sighted due to their senility and horrors of a rapidly diversifying world.
- NewYorkNuck

Miller has 93 points. That is math I understand.
You don't trade away 93 points for a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be" if we get lucky.

It's the enjoyment of mediocrity. Benning would always do anything to make the team better. Gillis fans that are more the problem. He gave them hope. They are still clinging onto that.
- manvanfan

Uh what? I mean, I agree he'd tried to do whatever he could to make the team better in the short term, but that was mostly trading away the future, flip flopping on the direction, and generally not making the team better.

What hope are Gillis fans still clinging to? Just curious.

Pettersson 23
Hughes 22
Bo 27
Podk 20
Hoglander 21
Demko 26
Miller 29
Lockwood 23
Boeser 25

Maybe some of us have more patience than others.
- VANTEL

Only 2 are reaching their primes.

Not sure why there is so much Canuck interest in moving your best player in Miller but if you do you would get a good return. Hard to get equal value though.
Just curious, how has Dermott been playing for you? I always thought he had more to give if given a chance at a regular shift in the top 4.
- Rang

Two reasons, speculation that he doesn’t want to re-sign in Vancouver, and two, for far too long the Canucks organization has let players walk for nothing when their contracts expire.

With him having such a good year and only one year remaining on his contract it makes sense cash him in. Not to mention the window for the Canucks to be competitive may, or may not, be within his timeframe to where he’s still good.

Miller has 93 points. That is math I understand.
You don't trade away 93 points for a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be" if we get lucky.
- Rang

Excellent post.

You would be surprised how many on here can't grasp that.

Miller has 93 points. That is math I understand.
You don't trade away 93 points for a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be" if we get lucky.
- Rang

He's also going to be 30 and at the end of his contract next year, and the Canucks are more than likely not legit cup contenders in the next 2. Do you sign that to a 7-8 year deal at 8.5+ mil?

And trading away a 93+ point player will get you a lot more than a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be".

Only 2 are reaching their primes.
- Bettmanhatesus

Yup .

I say add players . Stick with a tight doable cap for one more year. Move a Poolman and a Richardenson , not a Miller or a Hughes.

Excellent post.

You would be surprised how many on here can't grasp that.
- VANTEL

It took him 8 years or so to figure it out, he has talked about it many times, he got a great opportunity here and ran with it. I’d be surprised if he’s traded.

Miller has 93 points. That is math I understand.
You don't trade away 93 points for a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be" if we get lucky.
- Rang

See, Florida model. They got rid of Hoffman and Dadonov and Trocheck. 59 points, 47 points and 36 points. They only actually traded Trocheck for a few parts that weren't very good.

Phil Kessel would have led the TML to the cup if they didn't trade him.

Uh what? I mean, I agree he'd tried to do whatever he could to make the team better in the short term, but that was mostly trading away the future, flip flopping on the direction, and generally not making the team better.

What hope are Gillis fans still clinging to? Just curious.
- NewYorkNuck

Holding on while being mediocre

Miller has 93 points. That is math I understand.
You don't trade away 93 points for a "should be" or a "maybe" and a "could be" if we get lucky.
- Rang

If he’ll commit to a good number it 100% makes sense for the organization. It’s just not as simple as it sounds, lots at play.

Holding on while being mediocre
- manvanfan

Ah, yes, ok. At least the hope Gillis was clinging onto was back up bit some winning

If he’ll commit to a good number it 100% makes sense for the organization. It’s just not as simple as it sounds, lots at play.
- LeftCoaster

I doubt at this stage of his career he would. Which, I ain't gonna blame him, some teams are going to be throwing around $8 mil+ at 7 years. Get that bag.

Ah, yes, ok. At least the hope Gillis was clinging onto was back up bit some winning
- NewYorkNuck

That led to the worst 8 years of the organizations history because of how bad of a GM he was.

Canucks became so unbelievably desperate to be able to draft, they hired Benning and kept him for years even though he was an inadequate GM.

If he’ll commit to a good number it 100% makes sense for the organization. It’s just not as simple as it sounds, lots at play.
- LeftCoaster

What do you consider a good number? He deserves 7.5 to 8 .5 . Somewhere in that range . He also deserves 4-5 years maybe even 6 . He should be paid until he hits 35. Just don't add a NMC or full NTC on his final years.

The guy is the team leader and by far your best point guy . Rang nailed it when he said you don't trade a guy like that for hopefuls.

Ah, yes, ok. At least the hope Gillis was clinging onto was back up bit some winning
- NewYorkNuck

The Gillis era and the Benning era were complete opposite situations. At the end of the day both of them were pretty poor at their jobs and why neither will ever work as an NHL general manager again imo.

That led to the worst 8 years of the organizations history because of how bad of a GM he was.

Canucks became so unbelievably desperate to be able to draft, they hired Benning and kept him for years even though he was an inadequate GM.
- manvanfan

I think a competent GM wouldn't have made it the worst 8 years of the organizations history, but ya, he left them without much to build on that's for sure.

What do you consider a good number? He deserves 7.5 to 8 .5 . Somewhere in that range . He also deserves 4-5 years maybe even 6 . He should be paid until he hits 35. Just don't add a NMC or full NTC on his final years.

The guy is the team leader and by far your best point guy . Rang nailed it when he said you don't trade a guy like that for hopefuls.
- VANTEL

Like I said, a lot at play, most importantly what he wants. You can offer him 10 million for five years but he might not want to be in Vancouver, despite what he says publicly.

I think he’s worth 8.5 million over five years. If he wants a longer deal than that then I don’t care what he wants, I trade him. We’ve been handcuffed with too many aging players on bad contracts, we don’t need to keep repeating the same mistakes.

This USA- Canada first game at u18s is fun to watch.

Nolan B. is the coach for Canada. They might not win a game. \

Like I said, a lot at play, most importantly what he wants. You can offer him 10 million for five years but he might not want to be in Vancouver, despite what he says publicly.

I think he’s worth 8.5 million over five years. If he wants a longer deal than that then I don’t care what he wants, I trade him. We’ve been handcuffed with too many aging players on bad contracts, we don’t need to keep repeating the same mistakes.
- LeftCoaster

Some folks have Alzheimer's in here, the mistakes are always new to them.

I think a competent GM wouldn't have made it the worst 8 years of the organizations history, but ya, he left them without much to build on that's for sure.
- NewYorkNuck

All Gillis needed to do was make one or two draft picks make the NHL.

Like I said, a lot at play, most importantly what he wants. You can offer him 10 million for five years but he might not want to be in Vancouver, despite what he says publicly.

I think he’s worth 8.5 million over five years. If he wants a longer deal than that then I don’t care what he wants, I trade him. We’ve been handcuffed with too many aging players on bad contracts, we don’t need to keep repeating the same mistakes.
- LeftCoaster

I don't believe for one minute that he does not want to be here. I remember when it was at the height of conspiracy that him and Bo were butting heads and shortly after there was a photo of the Millers and Horvats celebrating Thanksgivings together.

This is his team and Bo's team for now . Like Boudreau said the other day Miller is the true leader.

He has his best production ever and plays in all types of crucial situations. He has taken guys under his wing like Pods and he tried with Jake. He helped get rid of clowns like Schmidt. I loved it when he told Juolevi to get up he was embarrassing himself after the bag skate.

It was Bennings best trade by far ( there weren't many) .