He’s def going there as a FA if he doesn’t force a trade.


Is Johnson going to sign here? If not he needs to be traded at this years draft before we lose leverage
- Fattony1187

LA: Johnson
Buffalo: Helge Grans

https://twitter.com/Sabre...tatus/1518557643471822848

He’s already planning his trade to Boston
- Stripes77

at what point does he start to notice a pattern?

I understand his point, and I'm sure he understands mine.

Rebuilding teams shouldn't have cap problems.
- Lunaion

The difference I see now compared to before is simply no bad players on bad contracts

They don’t have anywhere near a problem on the horizon

I wouldn’t even be mad paying Olofsson as he’s proving to be more than what I thought he was and I was his biggest critic last season

We simply need more good.

fans already turning on him

saying mcdonald's employees work harder then eichel
- homiedclown

I want to wait to see what he does with a healthy offseason before I declare him a disaster in Vegas.

Have you listened to his recent interviews?
- Lunaion

Yes.... what do you expect him to say? In that spot anyone is going to say they love the current group/players and that they are going to take their time, blah blah blah.

I want to wait to see what he does with a healthy offseason before I declare him a disaster in Vegas.
- buffalofan19

I wonder if not being in game shape after the surgery is really starting to hit him now with the schedule of games

The difference I see now compared to before is simply no bad players on bad contracts

They don’t have anywhere near a problem on the horizon

I wouldn’t even be mad paying Olofsson as he’s proving to be more than what I thought he was and I was his biggest critic last season

We simply need more good.
- sbroads24

When you have virtually your entire team either on rookie deals or vet minimums, that will tend to happen. Free agency is a really good way to change that in a hurry. I need Adams to be shrewd in the trade market.

It's something fun to pay attention to, but unless Vegas goes on a run to the conference finals, we're talking about the difference between picking 16th and 17th.

Pick your poison: Vegas goes on a cup run or Vegas wins the lottery (.5%). Not sure which is more likely.
- Lunaion

I'm picking jack eichel and Vegas miss the playoffs.

Should be a glorious off season as a Sabres fan.


Sure, they need to sign VO, but KA has that completely under control

I wonder if not being in game shape after the surgery is really starting to hit him now with the schedule of games
- SabresFaninIndiana

Yeah all 31 games

I wonder if not being in game shape after the surgery is really starting to hit him now with the schedule of games
- SabresFaninIndiana

I'm thinking that's exactly what it is. It almost reminds me of The Last Dance where Michael Jordan started working out with his strength and conditioning coach immediately after the season he came back from retirement. Not that I expect Eichel to go to that extreme, nor am I saying he's Michael Jordan, but there is no way he can be anywhere near the best shape of his life right now. His work ethic has never really been in question, though, and I expect you will see a much different player next season.

I wonder if not being in game shape after the surgery is really starting to hit him now with the schedule of games
- SabresFaninIndiana

I havent been paying attention, does the banana make excuses too?

😥 poor jack


Imagine if the surgery isnt quite as good/safe as the surgery the Sabres staff recommended?

When you have virtually your entire team either on rookie deals or vet minimums, that will tend to happen. Free agency is a really good way to change that in a hurry. I need Adams to be shrewd in the trade market.
- buffalofan19

His job right now should be to win games

That’s it. He got to stock his cupboard, draft #1 overall, now it’s time to add for the now

Yeah all 31 games
- BeadyEyedDouche

Number of games has little to do with it. If you're not in as good a shape as your peers or your competition, you're going to struggle, especially at that level.

I'm thinking that's exactly what it is. It almost reminds me of The Last Dance where Michael Jordan started working out with his strength and conditioning coach immediately after the season he came back from retirement. Not that I expect Eichel to go to that extreme, nor am I saying he's Michael Jordan, but there is no way he can be anywhere near the best shape of his life right now. His work ethic has never really been in question, though, and I expect you will see a much different player next season.
- buffalofan19

Devil's advocate: In theory he should have been able to get himself into some kind of shape because his injury was upper body. Sure, I wouldn't have expected him to set the world on fire out of the gate but.... yeah. As I said earlier, I wonder if he is actually hurt.

I'm thinking that's exactly what it is. It almost reminds me of The Last Dance where Michael Jordan started working out with his strength and conditioning coach immediately after the season he came back from retirement. Not that I expect Eichel to go to that extreme, nor am I saying he's Michael Jordan, but there is no way he can be anywhere near the best shape of his life right now. His work ethic has never really been in question, though, and I expect you will see a much different player next season.
- buffalofan19

I'd say Jack is 85% healthy , which should be enough to pull them in the playoffs.

His attitude and being a bad teammate still at a 100% poor.


It was never about the on ice play, it was the other aspects of being a captain, that he fell short.

Still is.

His job right now should be to win games

That’s it. He got to stock his cupboard, draft #1 overall, now it’s time to add for the now
- sbroads24

I agree. I'm just not sure Free Agency is the way to do that, though.

The difference I see now compared to before is simply no bad players on bad contracts

They don’t have anywhere near a problem on the horizon

I wouldn’t even be mad paying Olofsson as he’s proving to be more than what I thought he was and I was his biggest critic last season

We simply need more good.
- sbroads24

I don't think we're actually disagreeing by much here, unless you think they shouldn't be planning for extensions on Tage, Dahlin, and Power. There's a clear limit to how many 8m+ deals you can fit.

Number of games has little to do with it. If you're not in as good a shape as your peers or your competition, you're going to struggle, especially at that level.
- buffalofan19

Number of games = 31

Should dictate enough games played to be in "game shape"

Under 10 games sure, not in the same shape as peers

Devil's advocate: In theory he should have been able to get himself into some kind of shape because his injury was upper body. Sure, I wouldn't have expected him to set the world on fire out of the gate but.... yeah. As I said earlier, I wonder if he is actually hurt.
- Slump Buster

I'm not saying he's completely out of shape, just not in the shape he would like to be. Next season will be a much better indicator of the Jack Eichel Vegas really got. This time next year (which will probably be playoffs), will be the time to have this discussion.

Number of games has little to do with it. If you're not in as good a shape as your peers or your competition, you're going to struggle, especially at that level.
- buffalofan19

I'm of the opposite opinion here. He should have been fresh and had his legs under him. He had a minimal invasive surgery where he was back skating in just a few weeks, and this after the videos of him conditioning before the surgery.

Excuses.

I remember a few years ago however, I said Eichel's biggest weakness was his endurance. So there is that.

I just don't see the strain of 31 whole games wearing on him, nor the lack of conditioning.

He has no heart.

Devil's advocate: In theory he should have been able to get himself into some kind of shape because his injury was upper body. Sure, I wouldn't have expected him to set the world on fire out of the gate but.... yeah. As I said earlier, I wonder if he is actually hurt.
- Slump Buster

Yeah , eichel has a super sore vag.

Just like Buffalo


The excuses posters are going thru to explain eichel.......


Guys a cancer and Vegas is sick

I'm not saying he's completely out of shape, just not in the shape he would like to be. Next season will be a much better indicator of the Jack Eichel Vegas really got. This time next year (which will probably be playoffs), will be the time to have this discussion.
- buffalofan19

Does the same apply for alex tuch?

Alex missed a good portion of the season just like jack.

Should we expect a better indication of alex tuch next season? More goals, more leadership...

Yeah , eichel has a super sore vag.

Just like Buffalo


The excuses posters are going thru to explain eichel.......


Guys a cancer and Vegas is sick
- Boss34

I don't think we're actually disagreeing by much here, unless you think they shouldn't be planning for extensions on Tage, Dahlin, and Power. There's a clear limit to how many 8m+ deals you can fit.
- Lunaion

Tage yes. And I don’t see him as an 8mil player yet.