All the big forwards on Vegas haven been bad for the last month. Stone is on a 7 game pointless streak, Pacioretty has 3 goals in his last 13 games, Marchessault has 1 goal in 8 games. Other than Marchessault who's been healthy they've all dealt with injuries. Eichel, Stone, and Pacioretty have played a combined 101 games.

If it was just Eichel struggling you'd have a point
- Wetbandit1

(shrug) at what point did I say that Eichel was the only one struggling. Others are struggling - that doesn't change the fact that nobody can be happy with his play when it matters most. There is something not right with that team.

I am not the person calling people dummies or start a conversation implying people from one country is stupid


go find your marbles
- homiedclown

Oh my take a joke old man.

You are probably the biggest cry baby on this board not named Fitz and your like 70. Grow up

I am hoping for an 11 pm take out while I am puffing on the back porch
- homiedclown

Smoke and a show, I'm with it

If Pat LaFontaine was able to stay healthy and play for 15-17 years IMO he would absolutely be considered the best American born player by miles.

865 Games Played, 468 Goals, 545 helpers for 1013 pts, (1.171 pts/gm)

Pat Kane

1104 games, 430 Goals, 749 helpers for 1179 pts, (1.0679/ pts per gm)
- hehateme

No arguement from me. (I hear he played with Mogilny though, and that lowers his candidacy)

Smoke and a show, I'm with it
- RhinoFan

ya'll be smokin' that feng shui

Well, $9.5M Mark Stone is on a 7 game streak, so there's that. Is Marner coming off major surgery and not playing for a year?

We get it, you hate Eichel like Pegullllllaville hates Skinner
- Wetbandit1

Jeff Skinner has been one of the best 5v5 scorers in his career, yet is a -142 in his career.

Last time I checked the name of the game is scoring more goals then the other team no ?

How many of the playoff teams this year have a -12 skating on their top line ?

Yet Skinner is on pace for a career high in points.

His defence completely negates everything he brings offensively.

With Jeff skinner on the ice you get scored on more then you score goals, but yet it is completely forgiven that he scored 33 goals in the process ?

ya'll be smokin' that feng shui
- DirtyDan

feng shui and brown liquor

Jeff Skinner has been one of the best 5v5 scorers in his career, yet is a -142 in his career.

Last time I checked the name of the game is scoring more goals then the other team no ?

How many of the playoff teams this year have a -12 skating on their top line ?

Yet Skinner is on pace for a career high in points.

His defence completely negates everything he brings offensively.

With Jeff skinner on the ice you get scored on more then you score goals, but yet it is completely forgiven that he scored 33 goals in the process ?
- Pegullaville

bad teams give up more empty netters and short handed goals

good teams get that empty net goals because they have a lead


what was johnny hockeys plus minus 2 years ago, -10

now he is plus 61 leading the league

is his defense so much better this year, or the team in better position for him in that stat?

3 years ago barkov was -3

team, is good now and he is a plus 38


patty kane is -19 this year
plus 10 or 15 on the years the hawks made deep runs


jordan staal -18 a few years ago, plus 13 now

the players are who they are once they hit the mid 20's yet the plus minus goes up and down so much when the team is having good years

Jeff Skinner has been one of the best 5v5 scorers in his career, yet is a -142 in his career.

Last time I checked the name of the game is scoring more goals then the other team no ?

How many of the playoff teams this year have a -12 skating on their top line ?

Yet Skinner is on pace for a career high in points.

His defence completely negates everything he brings offensively.

With Jeff skinner on the ice you get scored on more then you score goals, but yet it is completely forgiven that he scored 33 goals in the process ?
- Pegullaville

This is demonstrably false as his relative goals for % is in the positive on a team that’s given up more than they’ve scored

So officially, Power's ELC kicks in but Quinn/Petey slide? Am I understanding that right?
- RhinoFan

Correct

I see everyone is mad

I am not the person calling people dummies or start a conversation implying people from one country is stupid


go find your marbles
- homiedclown

U just called him a “dummy” towards the bottom of page 46

those are centers you big dummy
- homiedclown

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=178584&page=46

This is demonstrably false as his relative goals for % is in the positive on a team that’s given up more than they’ve scored
- sbroads24

Skinner draws a penalty
Tage gets pp goal

Plus minus doesn't change

I keep hearing people say Jack took a year off… So, no, he didn’t first of all. He had scrimmages all last summer and fall, then his surgery in what November? Back on the ice in February? He had like 4 or 5 months off tops.

U just called him a “dummy” towards the bottom of page 46



https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=178584&page=46
- jdfitz77

Fred Sanford's quotes matter to old people

I keep hearing people say Jack took a year off… So, no, he didn’t first of all. He had scrimmages all last summer and fall, then his surgery in what November? Back on the ice in February? He had like 4 or 5 months off tops.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Didn't hurt his golf game last summer

bad teams give up more empty netters and short handed goals

good teams get that empty net goals because they have a lead


what was johnny hockeys plus minus 2 years ago, -10

now he is plus 61 leading the league

is his defense so much better this year, or the team in better position for him in that stat?

3 years ago barkov was -3

team, is good now and he is a plus 38


patty kane is -19 this year
plus 10 or 15 on the years the hawks made deep runs


jordan staal -18 a few years ago, plus 13 now

the players are who they are once they hit the mid 20's yet the plus minus goes up and down so much when the team is having good years
- homiedclown

You mean taking a boat anchor in Monahan off Gaudreau was positive for his on ice impacts ?

I wonder what Tuch’s +/- would look like if he wasn’t saddled with Skinner cherry picking at the blue line for 15 minutes a night

Fred Sanford's quotes matter to old people
- homiedclown

U still called him a dummy, whether it’s a quote or not

I just skimmed the back reading bc it was awful
So i may have missed the context

probably, who really was considered that before? Mike madano?
- SabresFaninIndiana

There are some goalies , ryan miller, quick

But chelios and brian leech. I think brett hull is half American?

I'd say chelios still... kane top 3

Didn't hurt his golf game last summer
- homiedclown

Right and he could have healed the injury with rehab and physical therapy.

Source: Am 37, have same injury, getting better after 6 weeks rehab and PT.

You mean taking a boat anchor in Monahan off Gaudreau was positive for his on ice impacts ?

I wonder what Tuch’s +/- would look like if he wasn’t saddled with Skinner cherry picking at the blue line for 15 minutes a night
- Pegullaville

Is there a point to the constant Skinner bashing?

He’s signed here & not going anywhere
Is your point that we should try to trade him, or buy him out, or whatever?

We ALL agree he got overpaid
That was years ago dude, YEARS

What do u wanna do with Skinner at this point??

Is there a point to the constant Skinner bashing?

He’s signed here & not going anywhere
Is your point that we should try to trade him, or buy him out, or whatever?

We ALL agree he got overpaid
That was years ago dude, YEARS

What do u wanna do with Skinner at this point??
- jdfitz77

Hopefully watch him score atleast another 35 goals next year.

I see everyone is mad
- gerbe75pts

And stupid

I keep hearing people say Jack took a year off… So, no, he didn’t first of all. He had scrimmages all last summer and fall, then his surgery in what November? Back on the ice in February? He had like 4 or 5 months off tops.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Offseason scrimmages are not NHL game pace. Not even close

Also I hope Bryce hall is a smoke screen. Beane doesn’t give out much inside info. So I think it’s smoke