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Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
I don’t see the relevance as to when it happens.

They don’t control the other 20 parts of the team.

They both aren’t worth their deals but they are pulling their respective weight now that the organization is in a stable place

- sbroads24


The team also has dozens of millions of dollars available next year that they (in all likelihood) will not spend on actual players
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
If skinner was not offered the contract and signed with rangers
And netted 35 goals the next year

And eichel wanted out 32 months ago

OH MY

- homiedclown


Still wouldn’t be worth $9M.

Cale Makar though, worth every penny
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
The team also has dozens of millions of dollars available next year that they (in all likelihood) will not spend on actual players
- Hank Balling


Within the next 3 years players that will be needing contracts:

Dahlin
Thompson
Power
Samuelsson
Cozens
Krebs
Joker
Mitts
Asplund

We don’t have a goalie and still need to upgrade the roster in more ways than one with impact players.

Skinner will be a $9M third line winger
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
I don’t see the relevance as to when it happens.

They don’t control the other 20 parts of the team.

They both aren’t worth their deals but they are pulling their respective weight now that the organization is in a stable place

- sbroads24


Maybe 10% of UFAs are worth their deals.

I don't get what the problem is.

He's scored 73 goals in the two years playing for a coach who didn't hate him.

They had to pay extra to get him to stay on the worst team in the league.

Cost of doing business.

There are wingers that are going to get mammoth deals coming in the next few years
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:04 PM ET
When was I wrong about Skinner ? He’s never been a $9M player and I can’t see him get any better as the contract ages.

I’m just ahead of the curve in arguing about Skinner when Hockeybuzz will be doing the same a few years from now.

I apologize for having foresight ?

- Pegullaville


We get it. You're the smartest guy in the room. Not one to toot your own horn but beep beep, amirite?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Within the next 3 years players that will be needing contracts:

Dahlin
Thompson

Power
Samuelsson
Cozens
Krebs
Joker
Mitts
Asplund

We don’t have a goalie and still need to upgrade the roster in more ways than one with impact players.

Skinner will be a $9M third line winger

- Pegullaville


Okposo and Girgensons coming off the books will pay for Thompson's raise.

Dahlin is due a $4m raise (if all continues to go well)

Power gets bridged, Cozens probably gets bridged. The rest have a long way to go before seeing any kind of real money. There's plenty of money to spend. My doubt is that the Sabres will actually spend it in the short term.

As for Skinner being a 3rd line winger on a cup team, you're probably right. That was Kessel for the Penguins
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
Also I hope Bryce hall is a smoke screen. Beane doesn’t give out much inside info. So I think it’s smoke
- Sabretooth9



I’m fine with him if we traded our 1st to move down to a high 2nd rd pick and took him there. And added a 2nd next year
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
Doesn’t EVERYONE agree that Skinner is overpaid though?
I don’t get why this is still a bog deal

- jdfitz77


Does it matter if he is overpaid? He is already paid - we might just want to try to get the best version of him that we can. I would have thought that we would have all been tickled pink that he was himself again, but alas....
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 25 @ 7:09 PM ET
Debo if they can move Edmunds for a first
- homiedclown



Edmunds would not get a 1st in a trade
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
Maybe 10% of UFAs are worth their deals.

I don't get what the problem is.

He's scored 73 goals in the two years playing for a coach who didn't hate him.

They had to pay extra to get him to stay on the worst team in the league.

Cost of doing business.

There are wingers that are going to get mammoth deals coming in the next few years

- Wetbandit1

you and me both.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
Edmunds would not get a 1st in a trade
- Fattony1187


The bigger problem is paying Debo - you can't pay 2 WRs at WR1 and not expect to have problems down the line.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
Okposo and Girgensons coming off the books will pay for Thompson's raise.

Dahlin is due a $4m raise (if all continues to go well)

Power gets bridged, Cozens probably gets bridged. The rest have a long way to go before seeing any kind of real money. There's plenty of money to spend. My doubt is that the Sabres will actually spend it in the short term.

As for Skinner being a 3rd line winger on a cup team, you're probably right. That was Kessel for the Penguins

- Hank Balling


What about the guys replacing Okposo and Girgensons ?

Dahlin will double his AAV at this rate.

Powers bridge will be worth how much in three years ? Should they even bridge him and kick the can down the road or pay up and hope to get a value contract ? Ditto Cozens and Krebs.

Didn’t even bring up Quinn, Peterka, or our top 10 pick this year.

Still don’t have a goalie, and we still need to upgrade 30% of the current roster to date.

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
Okposo and Girgensons coming off the books will pay for Thompson's raise.

Dahlin is due a $4m raise (if all continues to go well)

Power gets bridged, Cozens probably gets bridged. The rest have a long way to go before seeing any kind of real money. There's plenty of money to spend. My doubt is that the Sabres will actually spend it in the short term.

As for Skinner being a 3rd line winger on a cup team, you're probably right. That was Kessel for the Penguins

- Hank Balling


Skinner, Tage, Power, Dahlin, VO, and Tuch project for a big chunk of the cap, any way you handle it.

Great CapFriendly tidbit, the Sabres could add $557,166,320 today and be cap compliant.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
Maybe 10% of UFAs are worth their deals.

I don't get what the problem is.

He's scored 73 goals in the two years playing for a coach who didn't hate him.

They had to pay extra to get him to stay on the worst team in the league.

Cost of doing business.

There are wingers that are going to get mammoth deals coming in the next few years

- Wetbandit1


Cost that didn’t have to be paid.

10% of UFA’s are worth their deals, yet the Sabres are dumb enough to keep handing out big money on July 1st year after year and it gets us where exactly ?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 7:24 PM ET
What about the guys replacing Okposo and Girgensons ?

Dahlin will double his AAV at this rate.

Powers bridge will be worth how much in three years ? Should they even bridge him and kick the can down the road or pay up and hope to get a value contract ? Ditto Cozens and Krebs.

Didn’t even bring up Quinn, Peterka, or our top 10 pick this year.

Still don’t have a goalie, and we still need to upgrade 30% of the current roster to date.

- Pegullaville


1.) Asplund and some free agent Larry like Jankowski

2.) I doubt Dahlin gets $12m

3.) Power and Cozens bridge deals probably come in around $4.5m a piece average on the high side

4.) Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Mitts, Samuelsson and this year's hypothetical pick have a long way to go before they make any real money.


There's plenty of money over the next few years. The job now is to git gud
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 25 @ 7:27 PM ET
1.) Asplund and some free agent Larry like Jankowski

2.) I doubt Dahlin gets $12m

3.) Power and Cozens bridge deals probably come in around $4.5m a piece average on the high side

4.) Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Mitts, Samuelsson and this year's hypothetical pick have a long way to go before they make any real money.


There's plenty of money over the next few years. The job now is to git gud

- Hank Balling


I think you need to reconsider that.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
I think you need to reconsider that.
- Lunaion


Cozens is currently scoring points at a 6% better pace than Vinnie Hinostroza. He'll need a jump to make some real cash. Hopefully it happens. That's a good problem
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 7:30 PM ET
1.) Asplund and some free agent Larry like Jankowski

2.) I doubt Dahlin gets $12m

3.) Power and Cozens bridge deals probably come in around $4.5m a piece average on the high side

4.) Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Mitts, Samuelsson and this year's hypothetical pick have a long way to go before they make any real money.


There's plenty of money over the next few years. The job now is to git gud

- Hank Balling

Nonsense.

Sabres will be the first playoff team with a bad contract to make the playoffs in NHL history if they pull it off
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:32 PM ET
Cozens is currently scoring points at a 6% better pace than Vinnie Hinostroza. He'll need a jump to make some real cash. Hopefully it happens. That's a good problem
- Hank Balling


I don’t think you have to hope, he’s already playing very good hockey and will only benefit from playing a full 82 with better players than Vinny
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 7:34 PM ET
I don’t think you have to hope, he’s already playing very good hockey and will only benefit from playing a full 82 with better players than Vinny
- Pegullaville


Realistically he's going to play with some mix of the two rookies, Okposo, Krebs and Mittelstadt. It'll be up to him to beef up that point total
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 25 @ 7:35 PM ET
Cozens is currently scoring points at a 6% better pace than Vinnie Hinostroza. He'll need a jump to make some real cash. Hopefully it happens. That's a good problem
- Hank Balling


I was just talking about Power. Even if they bridge, it will likely cost more than Dalhin's current 6m. Cozens is a little early to call.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
Realistically he's going to play with some mix of the two rookies, Okposo, Krebs and Mittelstadt. It'll be up to him to beef up that point total
- Hank Balling


Cozens was our most impactful forward the other night playing with Asplund and Okposo and he still has so much growth to his game.

His biggest issue is he needs to put on 15 pounds and shorten up his shooting release and start your engines.

Everyone slept on Thompson, can’t wait to see Cozens explode within the next two years and earn a nice pay day when it comes time.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
Cozens was our most impactful forward the other night playing with Asplund and Okposo and he still has so much growth to his game.

His biggest issue is he needs to put on 15 pounds and shorten up his shooting release and start your engines.

Everyone slept on Thompson, can’t wait to see Cozens explode within the next two years and earn a nice pay day when it comes time.

- Pegullaville


He's created tons of chances the past two games alone. He'll get a good raise if he starts cashing more regularly. I still think they're in solid shape with the cap in the near and medium term. In three years (2025) they'll have a decision to make on a Skinner buyout
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 8:02 PM ET
Pray to god Homie or Sbroads get a GM job and offer up anything of significance for him to get out of the last few years of that deal.

Sell high

- Pegullaville


So ALL this b!tching you’re constantly doing can just be summed up as,
“Sell high, IF we get the chance”

I bet most would agree
Although I’d “sell high” on just about anyone
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
Debo if they can move Edmunds for a first
- homiedclown


Debo Samuel?

How are we gonna afford to pay him & Diggs close to a combined $50mil per season??
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