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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/nhl-players-stats.html

more even strength points per 60 then Mikko Rantanen, who makes more money as a winger

- homiedclown

Shhh!! Something Something
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/nhl-players-stats.html

more even strength points per 60 then Mikko Rantanen, who makes more money as a winger

- homiedclown


The guy at number 3 on that list would be an interesting offseason target.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
MAF will not sign that contract knowing there's zero chance he gets moved at the deadline beacuse of the cap
- gerbe75pts


This is a good point, but if nobody else wants him and his contract, he may not have many options where to play in the first place.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
The guy at number 3 on that list would be an interesting offseason target.
- kingcong39


oh my
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:08 PM ET
The guy at number 3 on that list would be an interesting offseason target.
- kingcong39

Sure would
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
So what's you pitch to Malkin
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:13 PM ET
? for Lunaion don't remember ever seeing it. But does hockey have option years built into contracts
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:19 PM ET
so he gets blamed for the empty net goals the sabres have given up?
- homiedclown


It’s much more than empty net goals. You do know the Sabres score empty net goals too though right ?

There are a few empty calorie goals they are on the ice for that counts for the “+” too
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/nhl-players-stats.html

more even strength points per 60 then Mikko Rantanen, who makes more money as a winger

- homiedclown


Ah yes the whole special teams and defence don’t matter argument again.

Mikko is one of the best 200 foot players in the league
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
So what's you pitch to Malkin
- Buff36


I see him going to the caps
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
The Sabres are a wet dream right now.

Draft picks and cap space out the wazoo.

Can Adams put the final pieces of the puzzle together ? Or are we going to sit here a few years from now and play the “bad culture” “grr tanking” game again while Dahlin and Power get blamed like Eichel and Reinhart did

- Pegullaville


And if anyone could (frank) up a wet dream, it's Adams
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
Ah yes the whole special teams and defence don’t matter argument again.

Mikko is one of the best 200 foot players in the league

- Pegullaville

We know what Skinner is, hopefully you get more good than bad. Very easily helped with a good D pair that gets the puck up ice.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
I see him going to the caps
- gerbe75pts

So right there tells me Sabres aren't interested
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
This is a good point, but if nobody else wants him and his contract, he may not have many options where to play in the first place.
- LandlordTom


If its not Arizona or buffalo it will likely be at 5m or 6m contract for 1 year .

so that should be easy to move at the deadline if no playoffs for that team

lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Apr 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
Do you think they are a playoff team with no other additions aside from a quality goaltender who can start 50 games and a bottom of the roster defenseman or forward?
- kingcong39


Yes. Absolutely.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Apr 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
MAF will not sign that contract knowing there's zero chance he gets moved at the deadline beacuse of the cap
- gerbe75pts


Why would he want to be moved at the deadline when the Sabres would be comfortably in a playoff spot?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yes. Absolutely.
- lacaprup


Unless that goalie is Igor Shesterkin I would respectfully disagree.

A solid netminder gets us where the Isles are sitting imo.

Still need another top 6 forward, or two, and a legit top 4 RHD to make up the difference.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Apr 24 @ 1:57 PM ET
Unless that goalie is Igor Shesterkin I would respectfully disagree.

A solid netminder gets us where the Isles are sitting imo.

Still need another top 6 forward, or two, and a legit top 4 RHD to make up the difference.

- Pegullaville


Be ready. Next year will be epic.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:59 PM ET
Be ready. Next year will be epic.
- lacaprup


Kevyn Adams has more than enough ammunition to get the help needed.

Next year should be a year we make a wildcard push and possibly even make it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
It’s much more than empty net goals. You do know the Sabres score empty net goals too though right ?

There are a few empty calorie goals they are on the ice for that counts for the “+” too

- Pegullaville

skinner is not really on the ice for the empty netters we score

asplund
vinny
olofsson
tuch
tage

https://www.statmuse.com/...goals-buffalo-sabres-2022


you have literally hated skinner since they signed him to the contract, the contract that they had to overpay maybe a mil per

and if he walked, and eichel wanted out a year later your story would be we should have signed skinner just like all the others who though eichel could walk on water and brow beat anyone who said anything bad about the part time super star

still think eichel is better then matthews?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ah yes the whole special teams and defence don’t matter argument again.

Mikko is one of the best 200 foot players in the league

- Pegullaville

doesn't change the fact skinner gets more points per minute even strength this season


and I never said special teams didn't matter much
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
Unless that goalie is Igor Shesterkin I would respectfully disagree.

A solid netminder gets us where the Isles are sitting imo.

Still need another top 6 forward, or two, and a legit top 4 RHD to make up the difference.

- Pegullaville

we spanked said islander team with an ahl goalie yesterday while they had their stud in net

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 2:21 PM ET
skinner is not really on the ice for the empty netters we score

asplund
vinny
olofsson
tuch
tage

https://www.statmuse.com/...goals-buffalo-sabres-2022


you have literally hated skinner since they signed him to the contract, the contract that they had to overpay maybe a mil per

and if he walked, and eichel wanted out a year later your story would be we should have signed skinner just like all the others who though eichel could walk on water and brow beat anyone who said anything bad about the part time super star

still think eichel is better then matthews?

- homiedclown


No I don’t. Matthews has clearly taken off the last two years and he defends at an elite rate.

Still think Risto is good d-man ?

I was thrilled when we traded for Skinner, but that contract is awful.

If he made $6M and slotted down a line, I’d like him just as much as the day we traded for him.


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 24 @ 2:23 PM ET
doesn't change the fact skinner gets more points per minute even strength this season


and I never said special teams didn't matter much

- homiedclown


Find someone other than a Sabres fan that thinks Skinner is in the same stratosphere as Rantenen.

Getting points is one part of the equation.

Sabres have scored the most goals in a season since 07/08 and aren’t within a mile of a playoff spot.

If Skinner defended as good as Rantenen did and our top line didn’t get scored on as often we probably would be a lot closer to a playoff spot
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Apr 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
No I don’t. Matthews has clearly taken off the last two years and he defends at an elite rate.

Still think Risto is good d-man ?

I was thrilled when we traded for Skinner, but that contract is awful.

If he made $6M and slotted down a line, I’d like him just as much as the day we traded for him.

- Pegullaville


I'd say he has at least 3 good years left and then you can make a decision on the 2025-26 season

Buyout options:

2025:

$4m
$6m
$2m
$2m


2026:

$2.4m for 5 years

Although there's only a year left by '26 so probably not worth it. Just suck it up for one more year

Cap space probably won't be an issue between now and then
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