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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 10:41 AM ET
Of all the excuses, injuries probably isn’t one of them this year, compared to past seasons anyway. It’s going to be difficult to make improvements in all the areas that need them given the salary cap constraints.
- 1970vintage

It can be done. Just needs to get the right pieces. Maybe not all in one year.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 10:54 AM ET
Well we did have Hamonic and Motte here...



Would like to see D!ckenson dropped to 4LC. Need a 3LC right hand shot and a top 6 D (RH) that can move up/down the pairings.

Tweaks...

Oh and Boudreau back as well. If he's not back may as well have Jannik Hansen coach he's seems to be super smart.

- LordHumungous

Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Dickinson isn’t physical, he’s slower, and, he doesn’t bring any offence. He needs to go as well because he’s a waste of cap space.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!

- LeftCoaster


If Boudreau is back look for Myers to go nowhere. BB likes him and the minutes he logs.

Boeser might be the odd man out this summer can't see Miller moving. Brock has regressed somewhat but I would expect a big year from him next season if fully healthy. Cap issues aside lol

Personally I would not lump in Pods with Pearson lol. Pearson is for sure a 'tweener' but Pods is surely not. Pods 14 goals with limited TOI shows us he's gonna be damn good. Not Petey good but good nonetheless. I remember the beginning of the season the whiners stating Pods would never get 10 goals but here we are...

Can't move OEL's contact so I wouldn't even worry about it. I do think Garland and Pearson might be gone. Pearson is bloody slow now and we need speed for sure. Garland may just be a product of the cap. Focus on team needs. If it's a Kings ransom for Miller sure look at it but I would expect him back here next year for sure.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Apr 24 @ 11:03 AM ET
Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!

- LeftCoaster


I could see both Pearson & Myers. You still need to upgrade the D which would probably eat up most of the cap savings. Is Rathbone ready?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 11:04 AM ET
If Boudreau is back look for Myers to go nowhere. BB likes him and the minutes he logs.

Boeser might be the odd man out this summer can't see Miller moving. Brock has regressed somewhat but I would expect a big year from him next season if fully healthy. Cap issues aside lol

Personally I would not lump in Pods with Pearson lol. Pearson is for sure a 'tweener' but Pods is surely not. Pods 14 goals with limited TOI shows us he's gonna be damn good. Not Petey good but good nonetheless. I remember the beginning of the season the whiners stating Pods would never get 10 goals but here we are...

Can't move OEL's contact so I wouldn't even worry about it. I do think Garland and Pearson might be gone. Pearson is bloody slow now and we need speed for sure. Garland may just be a product of the cap. Focus on team needs. If it's a Kings ransom for Miller sure look at it but I would expect him back here next year for sure.

- LordHumungous

If they wanna get better, there’s a lot of unraveling to do
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 11:07 AM ET
I could see both Pearson & Myers. You still need to upgrade the D which would probably eat up most of the cap savings. Is Rathbone ready?
- Argue4U

Too much cap space wasted on guys who don’t bring enough to the table. The defence has to improve, it’s the most glaring need imo. Rathbone should be packed with Boeser to get us a top three dman.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:10 AM ET
Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Dickinson isn’t physical, he’s slower, and, he doesn’t bring any offence. He needs to go as well because he’s a waste of cap space.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!

- LeftCoaster


You will all see, Jake Virtanen is going to prove you wrong - Lefty. Or was that Pacific?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:13 AM ET
Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Dickinson isn’t physical, he’s slower, and, he doesn’t bring any offence. He needs to go as well because he’s a waste of cap space.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!

- LeftCoaster

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
Myers and Boeser should be traded imo. Although he produces offensively, Boeser is slower and not physical at all, not to mention the salary conundrum Benning created with his QO.

Myers is a train wreck most nights, something crazy happens every game when he’s on the ice. Too much salary tied up in OEL and Myers.

Pearson and Podkolzin are essentially the same tweener players, you don’t need both guys, Podkolzin is obviously cheaper.

Dickinson isn’t physical, he’s slower, and, he doesn’t bring any offence. He needs to go as well because he’s a waste of cap space.

Lots of unraveling to do

If someone offers you a boatload for Miller….he gone!!

- LeftCoaster
Now to actually answer your questions.

When Boeser signed, cap was going up, Boeser was on a roll. Other similar players were getting QO of 9-10M.

Myers is a train wreck at times most nights. Most likely why Demko never gets shut outs.

Richardinson is 1st on the team in hits per 60 but yet he's not physical. Richardinson is Motte but much taller and at the price that Motte wants.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
Too much cap space wasted on guys who don’t bring enough to the table. The defence has to improve, it’s the most glaring need imo. Rathbone should be packed with Boeser to get us a top three dman.
- LeftCoaster

The Flyers model is something that isn't going to be followed.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:20 AM ET
Too much cap space wasted on guys who don’t bring enough to the table. The defence has to improve, it’s the most glaring need imo. Rathbone should be packed with Boeser to get us a top three dman.
- LeftCoaster

That would be nice. Or they could get a top pairing D man in the Miller trade.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:43 AM ET
That would be nice. Or they could get a top pairing D man in the Miller trade.
- Marwood
If Canucks move up to 5th place in the draft. You won't need too.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 11:43 AM ET
Now to actually answer your questions.

When Boeser signed, cap was going up, Boeser was on a roll. Other similar players were getting QO of 9-10M.

Myers is a train wreck at times most nights. Most likely why Demko never gets shut outs.

Richardinson is 1st on the team in hits per 60 but yet he's not physical. Richardinson is Motte but much taller and at the price that Motte wants.

- manvanfan

I think when the President of Hockey Operations comes out and says “there’s a lot of unraveling to do” that people should expect change. What changes are made in one off-season is just pure speculation on our part, that’s what the boards are for, fan interaction.

Secondly, I wasn’t asking a question, so I have no idea what you mean. I was just stating an opinion.

It takes years of tweaking to get the right combination that works, look at how long it’s taken Florida, or Calgary, or Washington before they finally won with OV and Backstrom, etc. etc. Most 100 plus point teams don’t get their quickly, it’s a process. Personally I don’t think the Canucks are even close to a 100+ point playoff team as they stand, which is why I don’t think Miller fits into their competitive window.

Diickson is not physical lol, if you think hit stats equates to being physical then I don’t know what to tell you. That’s not what I mean. He’s not mean, he’s got no bite to his game, he doesn’t stand up for his teammates. I never see him in the dirty areas where goals are scored, like Garland, which is probably why he’s an offensive black hole.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 24 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think when the President of Hockey Operations comes out and says “there’s a lot of unraveling to do” that people should expect change. What changes are made in one off-season is just pure speculation on our part, that’s what the boards are for, fan interaction.

Secondly, I wasn’t asking a question, so I have no idea what you mean. I was just stating an opinion.

It takes years of tweaking to get the right combination that works, look at how long Florida, or Calgary, or Washington before they finally won with OV and Backstrom, etc. etc. Personally I don’t think the Canucks are even close to a 100+ point playoff team as they stand, which is why I don’t think Miller fits into their competitive window.

Diickson is not physical lol, if you think hit stats equates to being physical then I don’t know what to tell you. That’s not what I mean. He’s no mean, he’s got no nite to his game, he doesn’t stand up for his teammates. I never see him in the dirty areas where goals are scored, like Garland, which is probably why he’s an offensive black hole.

- LeftCoaster


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
That would be nice. Or they could get a top pairing D man in the Miller trade.
- Marwood


They'd be foolish not to listen to offers.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Apr 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
That would be nice. Or they could get a top pairing D man in the Miller trade.
- Marwood

Someone else to crap all over lol
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
They'd be foolish not to listen to offers.
- VanHockeyGuy

Foolish, angry, stupid, stubborn...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think when the President of Hockey Operations comes out and says “there’s a lot of unraveling to do” that people should expect change. What changes are made in one off-season is just pure speculation on our part, that’s what the boards are for, fan interaction.

Secondly, I wasn’t asking a question, so I have no idea what you mean. I was just stating an opinion.

It takes years of tweaking to get the right combination that works, look at how long it’s taken Florida, or Calgary, or Washington before they finally won with OV and Backstrom, etc. etc. Most 100 plus point teams don’t get their quickly, it’s a process. Personally I don’t think the Canucks are even close to a 100+ point playoff team as they stand, which is why I don’t think Miller fits into their competitive window.

Diickson is not physical lol, if you think hit stats equates to being physical then I don’t know what to tell you. That’s not what I mean. He’s not mean, he’s got no bite to his game, he doesn’t stand up for his teammates. I never see him in the dirty areas where goals are scored, like Garland, which is probably why he’s an offensive black hole.

- LeftCoaster
You old people always hanging onto every word then disappointed after.


You should look into analytics, your eye test is clearly failing you.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 11:54 AM ET

- NewYorkNuck

Agreeing with a Flyers fan is about as bad as an endorsement from Marwood
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
You old people always hanging onto every word then disappointed after.


You should look into analytics, your eye test is clearly failing you.

- manvanfan

I think you’re being overly dramatic, most non-playoff teams and even playoff teams make changes every off-season. The Vancouver Canucks will be no different. I mean, look at Carolina, they’ve been successful for the last few years and they’re still tweaking their lineup. The Canucks obviously need changes, as I said I don’t know to what degree, but I’m fairly certain that they will.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
I think you’re being overly dramatic, most non-playoff teams and even playoff teams make changes every off-season. The Vancouver Canucks will be no different. I mean, look at Carolina, they’ve been successful for the last few years and they’re still tweaking their lineup. The Canucks obviously need changes, as I said I don’t know to what degree, but I’m fairly certain that they will.
- LeftCoaster

Ya, a full year under Boudreau.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 24 @ 12:14 PM ET
I think you’re being overly dramatic, most non-playoff teams and even playoff teams make changes every off-season. The Vancouver Canucks will be no different. I mean, look at Carolina, they’ve been successful for the last few years and they’re still tweaking their lineup. The Canucks obviously need changes, as I said I don’t know to what degree, but I’m fairly certain that they will.
- LeftCoaster

I have never been overly dramatic in my entire short not even over the hill yet life.

Most playoff teams make changes too. It's just the landscape these days. Keep your core of players and the rest is just moving parts.

Developing the rest of the players Benning has given the Canucks is essential. Just going to need a bit of patience
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Apr 24 @ 12:22 PM ET
I have never been overly dramatic in my entire short not even over the hill yet life.

Most playoff teams make changes too. It's just the landscape these days. Keep your core of players and the rest is just moving parts.

Developing the rest of the players Benning has given the Canucks is essential. Just going to need a bit of patience

- manvanfan

They havn’t signed Linus karlsson yet, isn’t he a free agent June 1st?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
I think one of the 1st moves the Canucks make, is buying out Poolman. Saves about 1.3m next year and over 2m the last 2 seasons of the contract.
The team has no choice but to start cutting somewhere, as they have a QO coming up in 2 years that is over 10 million.
Does the team want/need that contract from a player that gets hot for 32 games per season and is somewhat invisible the other 50 games?
Tough decisions to be made as it appears just about every contract, other than Bo, Miller and Demko is at least a 1 million dollar overpay.
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