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Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Apr 26 @ 8:55 AM ET
When PP1 wasnt Yandle it was Provorov, while i think hes a solid player i wouldve picked 2 other dmen befoer i selected him for PP duty. Sanheim, Risto come to mind.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 8:59 AM ET
Have they scored a PP goal since the blog where you stated they were 8 for the last 100 PP opportunities?
- Pelle31Forever


They are one for nine since then I think. 11% vs 8% -- vast improvement
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 26 @ 9:00 AM ET
It will be a lazy hire imo, like a Tocchet. Then all the talk about bringing "Flyers" hockey back. Then more nostalgia talk. All while the on ice results wont change much to make any difference.
- hello it's me 2050
It would be the typical Flyers thing to do to bring in Tocchet. PLEASE NO!! I'm begging no!! No more blockheads!! Thanks!!
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 26 @ 9:00 AM ET
I think it's gonna be someone they can 'sell' to the fans. Someone like Torts, who's a great quote or Tocchet who's an ex-Flyer.

Jim Montgomery isn't sexy enough of a hire even if he is the right guy (and the guy I want).

- TobyFlenderson


I would be surprised if it's Tocchet. IMO, Torts would be more likely. The special teams have to get at least back to middle of the pack.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
How about when Yandle wasn't on the PP? He spent plenty of time on PP2 and then off the PP than he did on PP1. The numbers were awful any which way.

Also, for those inclined to jump right to "Ghost would have made a big difference", considering that the Coyotes are at 13.5%, keeping Ghost here for the PP would not have moved the needle much.

- bmeltzer


Ghost and the 2 draft picks would be better than Yandle and rr
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 9:08 AM ET
How about when Yandle wasn't on the PP? He spent plenty of time on PP2 and then off the PP than he did on PP1. The numbers were awful any which way.

Also, for those inclined to jump right to "Ghost would have made a big difference", considering that the Coyotes are at 13.5%, keeping Ghost here for the PP would not have moved the needle much.

- bmeltzer

Keeping Ghost would have prevented Chuck from going after RR!!! Then re-signing him.

I know you like RR. For what he is paid and where this team is at it was just a poor decision to re-sign him. That is the sign of a bad GM.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
I would be surprised if it's Tocchet. IMO, Torts would be more likely. The special teams have to get at least back to middle of the pack.
- Trox88

Unless a guy like Torts has no other options, why would he take over this mess knowing he has a short shelf life? This team is far away from winning and he surely knows this as do others.

Plus not so sure Comcast wants t shell out big bucks for a coach at this time.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
Bill, whats your take on Ellis? There are a lot of rumors out there. At the very least people are saying that the situation is very strange. Has Ellis separated himself from the team? Is there anything unusual about that with an injured player who has been shut down for the year? Do you get the feeling something odd is going on? After the news about the training staff possibly being exposed to carcinogens at the training facility I know I wouldnt be too enthusiastic about doing my rehab there.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
Unless a guy like Torts has no other options, why would he take over this mess knowing he has a short shelf life? This team is far away from winning and he surely knows this as do others.

Plus not so sure Comcast wants t shell out big bucks for a coach at this time.

- hello it's me 2050


Most teams that have HC openings and in the lottery are generally a mess. I have no clue who they get, that's why I brought up the question. Someone will take the job in Philly. I do think some of these young guys currently on the roster can grow more with the right HC. The hire is extremely important.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
Brink is going to be asked this offseason to lower his body fat percentage by a bit. It's fine for college hockey where you play twice a week (usually FRI/SAT, but not always) but the pro game is more grueling. He'll be fine. Just an adjustment.
- bmeltzer


Invaluable that he and the other kids are getting a taste of what it takes to play in the NHL. I’m sure will serve as motivation for the off-season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
As trolling go, Pavel, that was a 2021-22 Flyers level of execution.

When there are five teams scoring at a lower rate, it does, by definition, get more pathetic.

Now, when a team's power play success rate after 80 games is at its lowest in a 54-season franchise history, THAT is something you can cite.

- bmeltzer

What bothers me the most is, JvR leads the team with 8 PP goals and the next best goal scorer(s) have 3 but they keep putting JvR on the second unit or choosing not to use him until he heats up in other areas.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
Most teams that have HC openings and in the lottery are generally a mess. I have no clue who they get, that's why I brought up the question. Someone will take the job in Philly. I do think some of these young guys currently on the roster can grow more with the right HC. The hire is extremely important.
- Trox88

Not all a mess as some look to have brighter futures. Whether they end up having it remains to be seen.

I just dont see a guy with a short shelf life willingly take this coaching job. Unless no options and he just want to coach. A guy like torts you bring in during the 2nd/final stage to try to get you over the hump.
SuperSchennBros
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Apr 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
I feel like the win against the Penguins ends up screwing them over for the draft....


It's always got to be the Penguins screwing them over!

- Glak18

I don’t think it matters. Many teams who have finished last the last few years have been screwed out of the first overall pick. Sabers, Sens, Wings. Heck, when we landed the second overall pick, didn’t we finish 12th worst that season? Just enjoy the rest of the season the best you can.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
What bothers me the most is, JvR leads the team with 8 PP goals and the next best goal scorer(s) have 3 but they keep putting JvR on the second unit or choosing not to use him until he heats up in other areas.
- SuperSchennBros



Because he doesn't play the RIGHT WAY. The Flyer way.

As for the coach search. Please no Rick Tocchet.


TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'd be all for a guy like Adam Foote, who steered Kelowna to a great record. Or Luke Richardson, who always seems to be in rumors but never got a head coaching gig. Plus he's got the ex-Flyers thing going for him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
I don’t think it matters. Many teams who have finished last the last few years have been screwed out of the first overall pick. Sabers, Sens, Wings. Heck, when we landed the second overall pick, didn’t we finish 12th worst that season? Just enjoy the rest of the season the best you can.
- SuperSchennBros



They had 11 fewer points than any other team. One of the most maddening chapters in franchise history. Then to have Kane score that OT cup winner was just sulfuric acid in the wound.
SuperSchennBros
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Apr 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
Because he doesn't play the RIGHT WAY. The Flyer way.

As for the coach search. Please no Rick Tocchet.

- MBFlyerfan

I’m really hoping we trip stumble on to “the next great coach”. It will all start there.
SuperSchennBros
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Apr 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
They had 11 fewer points than any other team. One of the most maddening chapters in franchise history. Then to have Kane score that OT cup winner was just sulfuric acid in the wound.
- MBFlyerfan

Are you talking about the JvR pick? I actually meant the Nolan Patrick pick.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 26 @ 9:40 AM ET
I'd be all for a guy like Adam Foote, who steered Kelowna to a great record. Or Luke Richardson, who always seems to be in rumors but never got a head coaching gig. Plus he's got the ex-Flyers thing going for him.
- TobyFlenderson

Seems odd no one gave him a shot, wonder why?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
I’m really hoping we trip stumble on to “the next great coach”. It will all start there.
- SuperSchennBros



I want to see a whole philosophical change from development to the on ice product. They need to draft talent first. Its been way too long with the 200 foot player mindset. That is great and all in the end. But they should be ALWAYS drafting the most talented player available. Then in development accentuate his strengths and limit his deficiencies while helping him to work on it. But this franchise seems to have a history of stifling strengths at the expense of having them fix their deficiencies.

As for the team, this Broad Street Bullies, tough to play against mentality has gone the way of the dinosaur.

And they miss the whole point anyway. Those great Flyers teams were tough, but they were always extremely talented teams.

So it always comes back to talent level first. If you draft a goal scorer, make sure he is in a position to score, as much as possible. Outscore his deficiencies and work on them. Don't play him on the 4th line with pluggers and complain he doesn't produce.

Meh, what do I know.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:47 AM ET
Are you talking about the JvR pick? I actually meant the Nolan Patrick pick.
- SuperSchennBros



Yeah.

As for the Patrick pick, at the time I will admit I was ok with what happened because I wanted Patrick and it was widely known NJ was going to take Hischier. Not using hindsight, at the time I thought, great, this works out ok.

But yeah, we surely lucked in to that. I saw it as karma for the Kane pick. Little was I to know that female dog wasn't quite done with us yet.




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Location: AR
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Apr 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:20 AM ET
They are one for nine since then I think. 11% vs 8% -- vast improvement
- corduroy


It's a 37.5% improvement. Name another team that improved so much in so short a time.





:-)


corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
It's a 37.5% improvement. Name another team that improved so much in so short a time.





:-)

- Scoob


Pretty sure that improvement shows that Yeo should be the next HC
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
Pretty sure that improvement shows that Yeo should be the next HC
- corduroy







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