Flyerloon
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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 12.06.2021
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When PP1 wasnt Yandle it was Provorov, while i think hes a solid player i wouldve picked 2 other dmen befoer i selected him for PP duty. Sanheim, Risto come to mind. |
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Have they scored a PP goal since the blog where you stated they were 8 for the last 100 PP opportunities? - Pelle31Forever
They are one for nine since then I think. 11% vs 8% -- vast improvement |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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It will be a lazy hire imo, like a Tocchet. Then all the talk about bringing "Flyers" hockey back. Then more nostalgia talk. All while the on ice results wont change much to make any difference. - hello it's me 2050 It would be the typical Flyers thing to do to bring in Tocchet. PLEASE NO!! I'm begging no!! No more blockheads!! Thanks!! |
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Trox88
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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I think it's gonna be someone they can 'sell' to the fans. Someone like Torts, who's a great quote or Tocchet who's an ex-Flyer.
Jim Montgomery isn't sexy enough of a hire even if he is the right guy (and the guy I want). - TobyFlenderson
I would be surprised if it's Tocchet. IMO, Torts would be more likely. The special teams have to get at least back to middle of the pack.
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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How about when Yandle wasn't on the PP? He spent plenty of time on PP2 and then off the PP than he did on PP1. The numbers were awful any which way.
Also, for those inclined to jump right to "Ghost would have made a big difference", considering that the Coyotes are at 13.5%, keeping Ghost here for the PP would not have moved the needle much. - bmeltzer
Ghost and the 2 draft picks would be better than Yandle and rr |
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How about when Yandle wasn't on the PP? He spent plenty of time on PP2 and then off the PP than he did on PP1. The numbers were awful any which way.
Also, for those inclined to jump right to "Ghost would have made a big difference", considering that the Coyotes are at 13.5%, keeping Ghost here for the PP would not have moved the needle much. - bmeltzer
Keeping Ghost would have prevented Chuck from going after RR!!! Then re-signing him.
I know you like RR. For what he is paid and where this team is at it was just a poor decision to re-sign him. That is the sign of a bad GM.
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I would be surprised if it's Tocchet. IMO, Torts would be more likely. The special teams have to get at least back to middle of the pack. - Trox88
Unless a guy like Torts has no other options, why would he take over this mess knowing he has a short shelf life? This team is far away from winning and he surely knows this as do others.
Plus not so sure Comcast wants t shell out big bucks for a coach at this time. |
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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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Bill, whats your take on Ellis? There are a lot of rumors out there. At the very least people are saying that the situation is very strange. Has Ellis separated himself from the team? Is there anything unusual about that with an injured player who has been shut down for the year? Do you get the feeling something odd is going on? After the news about the training staff possibly being exposed to carcinogens at the training facility I know I wouldnt be too enthusiastic about doing my rehab there. |
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Trox88
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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Unless a guy like Torts has no other options, why would he take over this mess knowing he has a short shelf life? This team is far away from winning and he surely knows this as do others.
Plus not so sure Comcast wants t shell out big bucks for a coach at this time. - hello it's me 2050
Most teams that have HC openings and in the lottery are generally a mess. I have no clue who they get, that's why I brought up the question. Someone will take the job in Philly. I do think some of these young guys currently on the roster can grow more with the right HC. The hire is extremely important.
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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Brink is going to be asked this offseason to lower his body fat percentage by a bit. It's fine for college hockey where you play twice a week (usually FRI/SAT, but not always) but the pro game is more grueling. He'll be fine. Just an adjustment. - bmeltzer
Invaluable that he and the other kids are getting a taste of what it takes to play in the NHL. I’m sure will serve as motivation for the off-season. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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As trolling go, Pavel, that was a 2021-22 Flyers level of execution.
When there are five teams scoring at a lower rate, it does, by definition, get more pathetic.
Now, when a team's power play success rate after 80 games is at its lowest in a 54-season franchise history, THAT is something you can cite. - bmeltzer
What bothers me the most is, JvR leads the team with 8 PP goals and the next best goal scorer(s) have 3 but they keep putting JvR on the second unit or choosing not to use him until he heats up in other areas. |
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Most teams that have HC openings and in the lottery are generally a mess. I have no clue who they get, that's why I brought up the question. Someone will take the job in Philly. I do think some of these young guys currently on the roster can grow more with the right HC. The hire is extremely important. - Trox88
Not all a mess as some look to have brighter futures. Whether they end up having it remains to be seen.
I just dont see a guy with a short shelf life willingly take this coaching job. Unless no options and he just want to coach. A guy like torts you bring in during the 2nd/final stage to try to get you over the hump.
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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I feel like the win against the Penguins ends up screwing them over for the draft....
It's always got to be the Penguins screwing them over! - Glak18
I don’t think it matters. Many teams who have finished last the last few years have been screwed out of the first overall pick. Sabers, Sens, Wings. Heck, when we landed the second overall pick, didn’t we finish 12th worst that season? Just enjoy the rest of the season the best you can. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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What bothers me the most is, JvR leads the team with 8 PP goals and the next best goal scorer(s) have 3 but they keep putting JvR on the second unit or choosing not to use him until he heats up in other areas. - SuperSchennBros
Because he doesn't play the RIGHT WAY. The Flyer way.
As for the coach search. Please no Rick Tocchet.
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TobyFlenderson
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Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA Joined: 06.13.2013
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I'd be all for a guy like Adam Foote, who steered Kelowna to a great record. Or Luke Richardson, who always seems to be in rumors but never got a head coaching gig. Plus he's got the ex-Flyers thing going for him. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I don’t think it matters. Many teams who have finished last the last few years have been screwed out of the first overall pick. Sabers, Sens, Wings. Heck, when we landed the second overall pick, didn’t we finish 12th worst that season? Just enjoy the rest of the season the best you can. - SuperSchennBros
They had 11 fewer points than any other team. One of the most maddening chapters in franchise history. Then to have Kane score that OT cup winner was just sulfuric acid in the wound.
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Because he doesn't play the RIGHT WAY. The Flyer way.
As for the coach search. Please no Rick Tocchet. - MBFlyerfan
I’m really hoping we trip stumble on to “the next great coach”. It will all start there. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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They had 11 fewer points than any other team. One of the most maddening chapters in franchise history. Then to have Kane score that OT cup winner was just sulfuric acid in the wound. - MBFlyerfan
Are you talking about the JvR pick? I actually meant the Nolan Patrick pick. |
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I'd be all for a guy like Adam Foote, who steered Kelowna to a great record. Or Luke Richardson, who always seems to be in rumors but never got a head coaching gig. Plus he's got the ex-Flyers thing going for him. - TobyFlenderson
Seems odd no one gave him a shot, wonder why?
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I’m really hoping we trip stumble on to “the next great coach”. It will all start there. - SuperSchennBros
I want to see a whole philosophical change from development to the on ice product. They need to draft talent first. Its been way too long with the 200 foot player mindset. That is great and all in the end. But they should be ALWAYS drafting the most talented player available. Then in development accentuate his strengths and limit his deficiencies while helping him to work on it. But this franchise seems to have a history of stifling strengths at the expense of having them fix their deficiencies.
As for the team, this Broad Street Bullies, tough to play against mentality has gone the way of the dinosaur.
And they miss the whole point anyway. Those great Flyers teams were tough, but they were always extremely talented teams.
So it always comes back to talent level first. If you draft a goal scorer, make sure he is in a position to score, as much as possible. Outscore his deficiencies and work on them. Don't play him on the 4th line with pluggers and complain he doesn't produce.
Meh, what do I know.
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Are you talking about the JvR pick? I actually meant the Nolan Patrick pick. - SuperSchennBros
Yeah.
As for the Patrick pick, at the time I will admit I was ok with what happened because I wanted Patrick and it was widely known NJ was going to take Hischier. Not using hindsight, at the time I thought, great, this works out ok.
But yeah, we surely lucked in to that. I saw it as karma for the Kane pick. Little was I to know that female dog wasn't quite done with us yet.
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Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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They are one for nine since then I think. 11% vs 8% -- vast improvement - corduroy
It's a 37.5% improvement. Name another team that improved so much in so short a time.
:-)
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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It's a 37.5% improvement. Name another team that improved so much in so short a time.
:-) - Scoob
Pretty sure that improvement shows that Yeo should be the next HC
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Pretty sure that improvement shows that Yeo should be the next HC - corduroy
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