There just isn’t a proper direction coming from the top. It’s where it starts.

If Scott comes out, and gives a mandate to rebuild. Tells everyone he wants to see a talented young core brought in over the next several years along with focusing on asset accumulation during that period.

If he tells those under him he wants the team to focus on a style of play that mirrors exciting teams like Florida, Colorado or Carolina, and not some perpetual obsession with defensive hockey.

That’s a direction those under him would have to follow. It’s something that hasn’t happened because the individual doesn’t have a clue about how to build a successful hockey team that’s easy to market.

What you are left with is too many cooks in the kitchen trying to influence the team in a direction that clearly hasn’t worked. The vision of what to do with the Flyers is the alpha, and omega here.

Player development, and scouting are very important but fall secondary to the overall direction the team needs to take.
- FlyerFan3260

I think this is one of those situations where the ship has many large leaks. Identifying the largest one and patching it, will still result in a sunk boat. Player development, scouting and coaching cannot be an afterthought.

There is not one department in place the last decade that should escape extreme scrutiny. Not one. We have seen essentially zero changes, and I don’t know what individual believes change means adding a few new faces while retaining those still employed.

Two great examples are of McCauley who Bill outlined the other day. I’m sure Lombardi just loved pushing his personal relationship to make a crucial decision. How anyone can currently think any of the pro scouts deserve something labeled as a promotion is beyond me.

The other is Kim Dillabaugh. Some success this year sure, but after what transpired with Carter Hart last season how he could have been brought back in any capacity is astounding to me.

They coddle their own in this franchise, as a happy cohesive front office is clearly more important than actual success.

It’s exactly why I have strong distaste for anyone that will defend the ilk of someone like Clarke at this current time. Coming in to defend members of a franchise that needs turnover more than anything else is disgusting.

Go back to the retirement home, and keep your personal feelings out of the ears of those running the team.
- FlyerFan3260

Preach it brother

I think this is one of those situations where the ship has many large leaks. Identifying the largest one and patching it, will still result in a sunk boat. Player development, scouting and coaching cannot be an afterthought.
- NC Flyers Fan

It’s one leak really. Prioritizing personal relationships, over actual performance.

That’s what this franchise is, and it’s clear as day.

Samuelsson is just one name, who has been collecting a paycheck in a player development position for the Flyers since 2013. Think he doesn’t next season?

Country club.

It’s one leak really. Prioritizing personal relationships, over actual performance.

That’s what this franchise is, and it’s clear as day.

Samuelsson is just one name, who has been collecting a paycheck in a player development position for the Flyers since 2013. Think he doesn’t next season?

Country club.
- FlyerFan3260

He has been around much longer than 2013 though. Lifer baby!!! What has he fn accomplished? What player can he even hang his hat on?

What year is it?

I see the same arguments on here every year, but different names.

He has been around much longer than 2013 though. Lifer baby!!! What has he fn accomplished? What player can he even hang his hat on?
- hello it's me 2050

I’m just happy that when Hextall was fired, or we talk about Fletcher being replaced with Briere…

There is solace in knowing familiar men like Samuelsson, Lombardi, and Dave Brown will continue their employment.

Things could be worse, or so I was told the other day.

Again, in the past 4 seasons before this one, Couturier played 276 games and scored 252 points, which is 0.91 points per game. This year he was one pace to be over 1 point per game before he got hurt. You can spin it anyway you want but you cannot dispute these facts. I'm done here as well.
- jd250

to average a point per game the number of points needs to be equal to or GREATER than the games played. That is how this works.

The FACTS are he is not a point per game player

to average a point per game the number of points needs to be equal to or GREATER than the games played. That is how this works.

The FACTS are he is not a point per game player
- corduroy

I won the lottery...I just needed to match 5 more numbers. FACTS!

I won the lottery...I just needed to match 5 more numbers. FACTS!
- Glak18

The Flyers had a super awesome season this year!

FACTZZZZZZZZZZ

I won the lottery...I just needed to match 5 more numbers. FACTS!
- Glak18

Some people stuck on struggle
Have to fight for what they are
Suffer through a day to day job
That only gets them half as far
Some use it to get closer
To fulfilling their lifes dream
Some lazily just sit back
And attempt to win at the lottery
I'm going to try my luck and see
What that reveals
I never tried my best so
I don't know how that feels
Couldn't it be
Or would you ever believe
How I would live so free
If I were to win at the lottery

I won the lottery...I just needed to match 5 more numbers. FACTS!
- Glak18

I won the elect...

It hasnt, just been speculated due to some frustration between Flyers and Provorov. Just saying thats a possibility.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Only Provorov deserves to be frustrated when it comes to these two sides.

Some interesting thoughts from Crossing Broad this week.

Two very different things coming out from the organization about there being large shakeups ranging from hockey ops/business side of things.

To simply rearranging the chairs, so to speak.

One can hope at least.
- FlyerFan3260

Of the two rumors, I’m beginning to believe the first. Is that hope or a hunch? Not sure.

Of the two rumors, I’m beginning to believe the first. Is that hope or a hunch? Not sure.
- NC Flyers Fan

Just in thinking about that I’m not sure who would push for such changes through.

It’s sure as hell not going to be Fletcher who seemingly is best friends with everyone. Briere doesn’t have the authority even if he dared to think about more concrete changes.

It would have to come from the very top. For an organization that just boasted about expanding departments, I don’t get a sense they are about to go on a firing spree.

We will see this summer, and any FO moves are 10x more important than a player or coaching acquisition.

Sanheim's been more effective than Provy 3 out of the past 4 seasons, including last season.


21-22 WAR
Sanheim +1.67
Provorov 0.38

20-21 WAR
Sanheim +0.49
Provorov -0.09

19-20 WAR
Provorov +1.52
Sanheim +0.84

18-19 WAR
Sanheim +1.54
Provorov -0.28


Sanheim's always been head and shoulders above Ivan at generating HQ scoring chances, and most years better than him at preventing them. Provorov is massively overrated and fans are only finally realizing how good Sanheim is.
- Tomahawk

This is just crazy talk.

I won the elect...
- Scoob

fcs

This is just crazy talk.
- SuperSchennBros

About as crazy as continuing to play Ivan 25 min+ and expecting the team to go anywhere.

About as crazy as continuing to play Ivan 25 min+ and expecting the team to go anywhere.
- Tomahawk

No, no, no...the team is losing because of their 4th line winger and 9th defenseman.

This is just crazy talk.
- SuperSchennBros

I’m going to just say this today. Sanheim is projected to get team’s top defenseman award this season, the worst season in my Flyers fandom. After a rough start, he gained something he hasn’t achieved until now—consistency. Good for him then. Well done and keep it up!

Comparing him and Provorov has never been fair, no matter which one you like better. No matter the spin, Provy has always received the hardest minutes and least support. Now wears the “A.” Often more minutes, no matter if the situation suits.

Whereas Sanheim, to no fault of his own, has been coddled. Mostly given consistent minutes with the same partner in a #2 role but always the middle pairing. Not given the hardest matchups, toughest situations, or tried to help boost a league-worst power play.

Again I do not fault either player, one hung out to dry and the other not allowed to help more. Maybe some are right that they are comparable in talent level with varying strengths and weaknesses. They certainly have not been treated with similar expectations. Provy is the younger of the two.

Warning: If anyone mentions these last few meaningless games that they were paired together sporadically on tough assignments, don’t bother. Too little, too late when the season is lost, and due to injury, the rest of the defense is rookies or depth guys.

Provy has always received the hardest minutes and least support.
- NC Flyers Fan

Least support? They traded for Niskanen and Ellis expressly to play with him. He's had peak Ghost as a partner. He had an entire season paired with Sanheim. Braun isn't great but he's still a far cry from RR.

Provy gets the plenty of PP time, offensive starts, and favorable matchups too. Being anointed top dog comes with benefits as well as added responsibilities.

Whereas Sanheim, to no fault of his own, has been coddled. Mostly given consistent minutes with the same partner in a #2 role but always the middle pairing. Not given the hardest matchups, toughest situations, or tried to help boost a league-worst power play.
- NC Flyers Fan

Coddled? You mean having to carry a big Finnish corpse around all season was doing him a favor? How about having basically a rookie partner in Phil Myers for two seasons? When did he get to play with somebody like Niskanen or an Ellis?

And hardest matchups is a myth. Provorov will get put out on defensive draws more often, but by and large in the course of a game, every d-pair is gonna find themselves out against the other teams' top-lines regularly. No coach can line match perfectly and there's only the slightest difference in quality of competition between top-4 dmen.

Sanheim is doing well because he's doing well. Not because Provy's gotta do all the hard lifting for him.

Why is Yeo speaking on topics as if he’s going to be sticking around?

Least support? They traded for Niskanen and Ellis expressly to play with him. He's had peak Ghost as a partner. He had an entire season paired with Sanheim. Braun isn't great but he's still a far cry from RR.

Provy gets the plenty of PP time, offensive starts, and favorable matchups too. Being anointed top dog comes with benefits as well as added responsibilities.



Coddled? You mean having to carry a big Finnish corpse around all season was doing him a favor? How about having basically a rookie partner in Phil Myers for two seasons? When did he get to play with somebody like Niskanen or an Ellis?

And hardest matchups is a myth. Provorov will get put out on defensive draws more often, but by and large in the course of a game, every d-pair is gonna find themselves out against the other teams' top-lines regularly. No coach can line match perfectly and there's only the slightest difference in quality of competition between top-4 dmen.

Sanheim is doing well because he's doing well. Not because Provy's gotta do all the hard lifting for him.
- Tomahawk

You mention his 4 games with Ellis and his good year with Niskanen twice. Ha ha! You list the years Provy had his best outings with adequate pairings. That is right. You ask when was Sanheim given those partners not why was Sanheim never given that responsibility.

Folks are down on Provy because of these last two seasons when he was primarily paired with Braun. Before that he was 23 and everyone was still hopeful.

I’d point to an issue aside from Provorov.

Sanheim is arguably the only one of that crop to develop. We know Provorov has flatlined. Everyone else from the once promising group has been traded.

Ghost, Myers, and Hagg.

Not changing the development process I’m not sure why I’d get excited about York, or Nemec.

Why is Yeo speaking on topics as if he’s going to be sticking around?
- PLindbergh31

He's Chuck's guy...He wasn't AV'S choice. He was handpicked for the staff from the start, and he'll likely remain in some capacity next year, for the same reason. It's the Flyer way.

Folks are down on Provy because of these last two seasons when he was primarily paired with Braun. Before that he was 23 and everyone was still hopeful.
- NC Flyers Fan

People have been critical of him since he broke into the league, particularly in the analytics community. He's always been inconsistent and his underlying numbers have always been poor.