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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
People have been critical of him since he broke into the league, particularly in the analytics community. He's always been inconsistent and his underlying numbers have always been poor.
- Tomahawk


Up until this season, Sanheim like Provy has been inconsistent. Sometimes Sanheim had stretches of games that he tripped and fell repeatedly, had major gaffes and was outmuscled on the regular. He was never healthy scratched as others were for similar bad play. Sanheim got a consistent partner in the middle pairing this year and at 26, he finally showed consistency over a decent span of games. Not really bad plus really good games either. I agree that he carried the pair as expected, but Risto is an experienced NHL physical defenseman who can also move the puck. The pairing didn’t grade out that well in the league, but Sanheim played well and that is wonderful.

You can be happy about that and still recognize that it was a far different circumstance for Provy who was not give Risto as a consistent partner or played in middle pairing matchups. You can also recognize that Provy is a year younger, and maybe, just maybe, you see his best season at 26, next year.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Both Sanheim and Ivan just leave you wanting more.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/1519700572135374854?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1519700572135374854%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

have at it peeps.

- hello it's me 2050


This isnt anything we already knew. I posted months ago Yeo would likely return to the club in another positiom just not Head Coach and we all knew Chuck was going to be GM next season barring him stepping down
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
What year is it?

I see the same arguments on here every year, but different names.

- Glak18


The grass is always greener on the side. People nitpick every player on our roster for every flaw and pretend other players on other teams dont have flaws
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
This isnt anything we already knew. I posted months ago Yeo would likely return to the club in another positiom just not Head Coach and we all knew Chuck was going to be GM next season barring him stepping down
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

NostfaFNdamos

It is an absolute fn disgrace if Yeo is behind the bench in any capacity next season. If he is hopefully it is as head coach.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
The grass is always greener on the side. People nitpick every player on our roster for every flaw and pretend other players on other teams dont have flaws
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Do you enjoy being a Flyers apologist? Who cares about other teams. We are talking about the Flyers. They suck in pretty much every aspect.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
Do you enjoy being a Flyers apologist? Who cares about other teams. We are talking about the Flyers. They suck in pretty much every aspect.
- hello it's me 2050

The best part is when they have a better record next year, they'll tell you it was all the hard work and changes they made in the off season.... and ignore the last two years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 4:53 PM ET
Well, I think its important to be fair here. Every GM, and I mean, every GM would have traded for Ellis last season. We saw what this team looked like with a healthy enough to play Ellis (well I guess now we realize he was never healthy) playing regular shifts. RR is polarizing, but he is not as bad as some on here make him out to be and I think he has more positives than negatives (I still would not have resigned him), and Atkinson was a good hockey trade that really helped the Flyers. Yandle is a complete disaster and will go down as one of Fletcher's worst moves in his entire career. Thompson is a good depth center that is good on faceoffs, good on the PK and heavy to play against. Jones was more than a capable backup, and played really well this year. Seeler was picked up as a depth defenseman and if he was limited to that role would have been fine, unfortunately he was forced to play many more games and minutes than he was ever intended to. So if you look at the off season in an objective way, it was a very good off season for Fletcher, it just didn't work out for a number of reasons, the top 2 being 1. injuries to key players for long periods of time and 2. the team quickly developed a disdain for AV.
- jd250


I stopped reading after the first sentence. If that was true, the return Nashville received for Ellis would've been much, much better. LOL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
A troll is "a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online posts." I hope no one is offended by my posts or consider them provocative, that is certainly not my intention. I am serious in my opinion of Fletcher's last off season. Jake Voracek has scored a total of 27 goals the past three seasons and only 6 goals this season, while Atkinson scored 23 goals this season alone and would have had more if he didn't get hurt. By my standards, that was a good hockey trade for the Flyers. Ellis had some injuries but nothing like he experienced this season and I don't how any GM would have been able to predict this would happen to him. Anyone who claims otherwise is just relying on hindsight. The price for RR was steep and though I was optimistic earlier in the season, after watching him play it was too high of a price. However RR still did a lot of good things for this team this year and I still believe he can be a really solid player on a good team that is well coached. I had no problem getting out from under Ghost's contract and Hagg is nothing more than a marginal NHL defenseman IMO, in fact I think he was only thrown into the deal to make the cap work.
- jd250


What about the 54 assists Voracek racked up. Why did you ignore that? Ristolainen is a mediocre player who made no difference on the Flyers defense. He will not improve. He will degrade as a player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
There are many ways to look at events, many different perspectives. Your perspective is based on your hatred of Fletcher and desire for him to get canned. I understand your frustration as a fan and I share it. I try to look at things more objectively, trying my best to ignore my own personal biases. If you and others feel sorry for me because I do this, Ok I guess, but I'm not going apologize for how I try to look at things.
- jd250


Every time someone makes legitimate criticisms of Fletcher. You spin it as hatred of Fletcher. Why would a fan not like a GM and want him fired. Because they don't like the suits he wears or how he styles his hair?



You're opinions are not objective. They're misguided and filled with bias.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
Thing is, it looks like Fletcher knew about the issues and decided it was risk worth making. Best case they get the D they need and give up nothing in NoPa and Myers. Worst case he's LTIR for the remainder of his contract. If he cant play again, Capped out teams would love to take those contracts like Tampa took Seabrook. Chicago ended up getting TyJo and 2023 2nd for the dead contract.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



What about the in between? Continues to miss games and is a cap anchor.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
Yahoo Yoe wins the half-baked tank approach award. Some will miss YoE. When they see the coach wasn't the problem, but this awful composed and extremely mixed bag roster was. Vs Pens and G last hurrah vs Preds they looked like something. We will see down this long and windy road ahead.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Apr 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
Ellis is done with the flyers and the nhl. He hasn’t been around the flyers for awhile. The Flyers will do with him what they did with pronger.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 5:30 PM ET
Ellis is done with the flyers and the nhl. He hasn’t been around the flyers for awhile. The Flyers will do with him what they did with pronger.
- Keyser soze


Do you understand how what the Flyers did with Pronger works?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
Do you enjoy being a Flyers apologist? Who cares about other teams. We are talking about the Flyers. They suck in pretty much every aspect.
- hello it's me 2050


How am I apologizing for the Flyers? We suck but often a lot of the things people B*tch about, other teams fans do as well. This isnt the end of times. The Flyers arent in good shape. Unless they get lucky with some of the young guys, they still need 2-3 top level players. A top pair D and two Top end forwards.

We arent the Early 2010s Toronto Maple Leafs where Bozak was their #1C with Kessel.

We have talent on this roster. Flyers job is to find those pieces that this talent can build around. Those pieces are best obtained via the draft however we are likely to go after them via FA/trade which can be fine if they are the right moves.

If you are giving up a 1st it has to be a young potential\current star.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 29 @ 7:06 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 4/29/22 vs. OTT; Flyers Award Predictions
- bmeltzer


Lol. Game won’t be shown live on center ice. Tape delayed broadcast will air at midnight eastern
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 29 @ 7:16 PM ET
Lol. Game won’t be shown live on center ice. Tape delayed broadcast will air at midnight eastern
- corduroy

Nothing to see Just Yahoo Yoe's bald head and his dumbfounded look.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
Brady Tkachuk I would say qualifies as a power forward.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 29 @ 7:19 PM ET
Ellis is done with the flyers and the nhl. He hasn’t been around the flyers for awhile. The Flyers will do with him what they did with pronger.
- Keyser soze

From top to bottom, I have no idea what this is suppose to mean. Chris Pronger was pretty active with the team even after his career ending injury.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 29 @ 8:00 PM ET
JvR has 9 power play goals this season on a poop power play and now leads the team in goals. This doesn’t piss anyone off other than myself? JvR has a lot of shortcomings but when your power play is trash and you’re not using your most effective weapon, that just goes on along grocery list of why you need to be fired.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 29 @ 8:03 PM ET
JVR sabotaging the tank. I'm done with this guy!
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 29 @ 8:06 PM ET
NostfaFNdamos

It is an absolute fn disgrace if Yeo is behind the bench in any capacity next season. If he is hopefully it is as head coach.

- hello it's me 2050

Not unless they plan to tank again next year, too. Keep ywo behind the bench. Keep CF as GM. Sign yandle to another 1 year deal and move RR to the top pairing. Boom. We are in the running for bedard
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:10 PM ET
mchuewn
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
YAY!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 8:41 PM ET
Did the panthers bench their entire team. Habs are beating them 8-1
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