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golfingsince
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May 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
You say I miss things. When you and I talk, you manage to create a narrative that really doesn't speak to what I say. Almost as if you have pre planned an answer to what I will say without actually reading it.
- manvanfan

I disagree, should we go see a counsellor?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
The same way Mike Milbury did. Thanks for playing.
- golfingsince

Oh, as an NHL executive

Please try again.
golfingsince
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May 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Zone exits above replacement.
- TurdFergeson

You get me.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
I disagree, should we go see a counsellor?
- golfingsince

I'm not really interesting in making this work.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
Oh, as an NHL executive

Please try again.

- manvanfan

Care to enlighten us on which team is currently employing either person in that capacity? Once again, thanks for playing.

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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May 5 @ 12:42 PM ET
I'm not really interesting in making this work.
- manvanfan

See, we do agree on some things.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 12:46 PM ET
No, it's in disagreement with your stats. 5 players are responsible for zone exits, not 1 or 2.
- Load Management

Why aren't all defensemen equal in zone exits then?
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
We need relative zone exit stats. Hockey cannot survive without it.
- golfingsince


I knew when Rutherford mentioned poor exits at the presser that someone was going to take it, very wrongly, as an indictment of our D.

The bonus here is it was Mini. The double bonus is it caught him up cherry picking stats for a piss poor hypothesis. I love it.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
Out of 13 first and second round picks in Benning's era. 3 defenders were drafted.
- manvanfan


Ya, not good.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
Why aren't all defensemen equal in zone exits then?
- manvanfan


All teams aren't equal. All lines aren't equal. All matchups aren't equal. Shall I continue?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
Just saw this on Twitter, why is this?


“It is absolutely amazing to me that Jett Woo, supposedly the best right-handed defenceman prospect in the #Canucks  system, spent both games of the Abbotsford Canucks’ brief playoffs — and most of the latter half of the regular season — as a fourth-line forward.

Development!”

- LeftCoaster

Draft guru.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 12:53 PM ET
All teams aren't equal. All lines aren't equal. All matchups aren't equal. Shall I continue?
- Load Management

2 defenders on the same team, on the same pairing with the same forward groups.

Still somehow aren't perfectly equal.

Why is that?

golfingsince
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May 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
All teams aren't equal. All lines aren't equal. All matchups aren't equal. Shall I continue?
- Load Management

Mini must be a lab technician
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
I knew when Rutherford mentioned poor exits at the presser that someone was going to take it, very wrongly, as an indictment of our D.

The bonus here is it was Mini. The double bonus is it caught him up cherry picking stats for a piss poor hypothesis. I love it.

- Load Management

I didn't take it wrongly. I went to go see how bad. It wasn't really anything that I hadn't already seen.

I also didn't "cherry pick". I just pointed out a few stats that some in here would go out of their way to argue about because they have thought otherwise.

Congrats on being one of the suckers.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
Mini must be a lab technician
- golfingsince

As in the dog?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
I knew when Rutherford mentioned poor exits at the presser that someone was going to take it, very wrongly, as an indictment of our D.

The bonus here is it was Mini. The double bonus is it caught him up cherry picking stats for a piss poor hypothesis. I love it.

- Load Management

I don't think our D is blameless but it certainly doesn't all fall on them.
golfingsince
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May 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
As in the dog?
- Marwood

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 1:00 PM ET
Mini must be a lab technician
- golfingsince



If I remember what you said you did for a living, I wouldn't be your boss but I'd be giving you instructions.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 1:01 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 5 @ 1:02 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

When you see the drama it pleases you doesn't it?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 5 @ 1:03 PM ET


If I remember what you said you did for a living, I wouldn't be your boss but I'd be giving you instructions.

- manvanfan

Well if you're correct than it surely helps explain why everything is so (frank)ed up.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 5 @ 1:04 PM ET
2 defenders on the same team, on the same pairing with the same forward groups.

Still somehow aren't perfectly equal.

Why is that?

- manvanfan


I'm not gonna talk in circles with you. I'll give an example then move on.

When Dermott got here we played a game against the Coyotes. He was still getting used to things system and player wise. While defending a lane, which he does very well, he causes a turn over in the defensive zone at the top of the circles. The puck was on his stick and bam, he transitions up the center of the ice past his blue line. Looks for an outlet on either side, none. Skates into the trap turns it over and they turn it back and score.

I thought, wow, that's how much faster the wingers are on the Leafs. He was on offense and our guys are still figuring it out. He had zero puck support, nobody backing him and no outlets. That's what zone exits are about.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 5 @ 1:05 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy



I decided to have some fun today as I'm stuck at home with Covid.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
I'm not gonna talk in circles with you. I'll give an example then move on.

When Dermott got here we played a game against the Coyotes. He was still getting used to things system and player wise. While defending a lane, which he does very well, he causes a turn over in the defensive zone at the top of the circles. The puck was on his stick and bam, he transitions up the center of the ice past his blue line. Looks for an outlet on either side, none. Skates into the trap turns it over and they turn it back and score.

I thought, wow, that's how much faster the wingers are on the Leafs. He was on offense and our guys are still figuring it out. He had zero puck support, nobody backing him and no outlets. That's what zone exits are about.

- Load Management


You're 100% wrong. It's what the statistics say.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 5 @ 1:06 PM ET


I decided to have some fun today as I'm stuck at home with Covid.

- golfingsince


I just got a wisdom tooth removed yesterday. Nice to see you around.
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