RR Part of the problem in Buffalo? How do you figure? The made little improvement this season and much of that was due to Dhalin playing better and players like Thompson, Skinner, Dhalin, Olofsson, Okposo, Tuch and Cozens having better years. What about Reinhart and Eichel, were they part of the problem too? They all got moved too.

Dhalin was -36 in 2020-21 with 23 points, thay jumped to -22 and 53 points. Not to mention his PP production doubled. Ristolainen never played with Dhalin

Skinner had a measly 14 points in 2020-21. This season had 63 points.

Olofsson had a career season at 49 points

Okposo had his best season sin 2015-16

Cozens tripled his point production from his rookie season

Their goaltending was also more stable. They didnt use 5-6 guys over the course of the season like they did the year prior. Ulmark was better than their goalies this year but he only played 20 games due to injury. The rest of the time the goalies sported a 3.5GAA That dropped to 3.22 approx
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The fact that yo do not think RR was part of the problem on why buff had a bad defense is I guess not shocking in any way. Nope he wasn't an issue at all in those 8 years

Everyone on here is astonished at how boring you are. But congrats to the smartest kid in class in your opinion. And thanks! Man, do we need a playoff hockey team with all these catty dudes on here. You are dudes aren't you?
- Phillywhiteout

I feel shame. Should I go into exile?

RR Part of the problem in Buffalo? How do you figure? The made little improvement this season and much of that was due to Dhalin playing better and players like Thompson, Skinner, Dhalin, Olofsson, Okposo, Tuch and Cozens having better years. What about Reinhart and Eichel, were they part of the problem too? They all got moved too.

Dhalin was -36 in 2020-21 with 23 points, thay jumped to -22 and 53 points. Not to mention his PP production doubled. Ristolainen never played with Dhalin

Skinner had a measly 14 points in 2020-21. This season had 63 points.

Olofsson had a career season at 49 points

Okposo had his best season sin 2015-16

Cozens tripled his point production from his rookie season

Their goaltending was also more stable. They didnt use 5-6 guys over the course of the season like they did the year prior. Ulmark was better than their goalies this year but he only played 20 games due to injury. The rest of the time the goalies sported a 3.5GAA That dropped to 3.22 approx
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

How about for the same reasons he is part of the problem here. He is an overpaid mediocre player that does more harm than good.

Even a 4 year old could understand exactly what I’ve presented to you.
- SuperSchennBros

Nobody can understand what anything you've said has to do with what OP was talking about.

He was clearly talking about Frost having no chance if he's stuck with similar icetime and usage.

You brought up Mike Richards' point per game season where he averaged 21 mins a game lol.

GG

The fact that yo do not think RR was part of the problem on why buff had a bad defense is I guess not shocking in any way. Nope he wasn't an issue at all in those 8 years
- hello it's me 2050

Buffalo's defense is still bad. I also just proved their #1D in Dhalin had an awful season. The year Prior to that Ristolainen was a -2 while Dhalin was -7.

Ristolainen also finished this season as -9

The fact is RR is not as awful as people claim. He also had double the points Hagg had in BUF because apparently they are equivalent somehow.

You do not need a few veteran depth guys. Yet you also say give the young guys a chance with a new coach.

so which is it, vet depth guys or in house guys?
- hello it's me 2050

You can have both.

Buffalo's defense is still bad. I also just proved their #1D in Dhalin had an awful season. The year Prior to that Ristolainen was a -2 while Dhalin was -7.

Ristolainen also finished this season as -9

The fact is RR is not as awful as people claim. He also had double the points Hagg had in BUF because apparently they are equivalent somehow.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If you say so Flyers Felater.

RR is not good. As Cliff said he is mediocre. He is a bottom pair dman. Say it 10x.

Hagg at 1.6 > RR at 5.5 or now 5.1.There is no significant diff. Eye test and analytics.

So then RR > Dahlen. Got it.

You don't have to read it turd breath. It's actually meant to be humorous, but you seem like one of those folks that was born without a sense of humor. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

I guess you told me!

So you've moved off of your previous opinion that Frost stinks and won't be a regular NHL player?
- MJL

Again, what I said specifically about Frost is "I don't see it in this player and don't believe he will ever be a top 6 player in this league". What I am saying in this post is the Flyers need to give Frost a full season with steady line mates and power play time (which as you know I posted several times how much I liked Frost on the PP because of his patience on the half wall) to see what they got before they make any more rash decisions. I would like to see all the Flyers young players get a chance next year to stay healthy and play games so we can see what we got. I am preaching patience over action this off season.

If you say so Flyers Felater.

RR is not good. As Cliff said he is mediocre. He is a bottom pair dman. Say it 10x.

Hagg at 1.6 > RR at 5.5 or now 5.1.There is no significant diff. Eye test and analytics.

So then RR > Dahlen. Got it.
- hello it's me 2050

How do you figure I said RR > RD?

RD gets the harder matchups and more ice time. His play has more of an impact on the team.

RR gets matchups fit for a 2nd pair D.

Buffalo was all around a bad team and they still are a bad team.

You can have both.
- jd250

Tell me how the flyers can both when you look at who is under contract and what they have in the system in terms of players knocking on the door.

ex selke
hayes
laughton
frost
TK
Joel
JVR
Tippet
Oscar
Cam

Now add in Cates, Brink, Allison, Tanner, Ratcliff, and possibly the 1dt rd pick this year. Not even including the 100% re-signing of ZAC or Brown who is under contract

So how you going to give those "young" guys a chance if you sign vet depth?

How do you figure I said RR > RD?

RD gets the harder matchups and more ice time. His play has more of an impact on the team.

RR gets matchups fit for a 2nd pair D.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

seems to me you were comparing the 2.

Well RR isnt a 2nd pair dman on a real team. On the flyers sure as they fn suck.

Oh wait, another genius heard from. I sure wish I had all your credentials when it comes to hockey knowledge!!

- Phillywhiteout

I only wish that 10% of your keystrokes were worth reading.

Buffalo's defense is still bad. I also just proved their #1D in Dhalin had an awful season. The year Prior to that Ristolainen was a -2 while Dhalin was -7.

Ristolainen also finished this season as -9

The fact is RR is not as awful as people claim. He also had double the points Hagg had in BUF because apparently they are equivalent somehow.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

For all those that crap of RR, just how many lost games this year do they attribute to RR? Is RR worth $5.1M? Nope! Is RR a top pairing defenseman? Nope! But can he be an effective and physical defenseman in a team's top 4? Absolutely! I for one would like to see him play on a team that is actually well coached and defensively sound.

Tell me how the flyers can both when you look at who is under contract and what they have in the system in terms of players knocking on the door.

ex selke
hayes
laughton
frost
TK
Joel
JVR
Tippet
Oscar
Cam

Now add in Cates, Brink, Allison, Tanner, Ratcliff, and possibly the 1dt rd pick this year. Not even including the 100% re-signing of ZAC or Brown who is under contract

So how you going to give those "young" guys a chance if you sign vet depth?
- hello it's me 2050

Has Macewen signed? Maybe wait until he does before crying about.

Is there some rule that the Flyers cant waive Brown? Brown is not guaranteed a roster spot.

Again, what I said specifically about Frost is "I don't see it in this player and don't believe he will ever be a top 6 player in this league". What I am saying in this post is the Flyers need to give Frost a full season with steady line mates and power play time (which as you know I posted several times how much I liked Frost on the PP because of his patience on the half wall) to see what they got before they make any more rash decisions. I would like to see all the Flyers young players get a chance next year to stay healthy and play games so we can see what we got. I am preaching patience over action this off season.
- jd250

Nah, what you said is that he not going to be a regular NHL player period. Another in a long line of emotional, poorly thought out and uninformed opinions. Another example is the long line of posts claiming that Sanheim also sucks. And on and on.

For all those that crap of RR, just how many lost games this year do they attribute to RR? Is RR worth $5.1M? Nope! Is RR a top pairing defenseman? Nope! But can he be an effective and physical defenseman in a team's top 4? Absolutely! I for one would like to see him play on a team that is actually well coached and defensively sound.
- jd250

Yep all the coaches he has had fault he isn't very good.

RR is Built for playoff hockey right.

Has Macewen signed? Maybe wait until he does before crying about.

Is there some rule that the Flyers cant waive Brown? Brown is not guaranteed a roster spot.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

out of that post that is what you respond too. Keep up the good work.

Would you like to wager he will be re-signed? I am talking cold hard cash.

Who said anything about Brown except he is under contract?

For all those that crap of RR, just how many lost games this year do they attribute to RR? Is RR worth $5.1M? Nope! Is RR a top pairing defenseman? Nope! But can he be an effective and physical defenseman in a team's top 4? Absolutely! I for one would like to see him play on a team that is actually well coached and defensively sound.
- jd250

Ristolainen is not an effective player and won't be an effective player. If the team is quality around him they can hide him but he individually will not be an effective player.

Tell me how the flyers can both when you look at who is under contract and what they have in the system in terms of players knocking on the door.

ex selke
hayes
laughton
frost
TK
Joel
JVR
Tippet
Oscar
Cam

Now add in Cates, Brink, Allison, Tanner, Ratcliff, and possibly the 1dt rd pick this year. Not even including the 100% re-signing of ZAC or Brown who is under contract

So how you going to give those "young" guys a chance if you sign vet depth?
- hello it's me 2050

There are several teams that have up to 5 players on their roster better than anyone the Flyers have. Zero top end talent on this team.

Again, what I said specifically about Frost is "I don't see it in this player and don't believe he will ever be a top 6 player in this league". What I am saying in this post is the Flyers need to give Frost a full season with steady line mates and power play time (which as you know I posted several times how much I liked Frost on the PP because of his patience on the half wall) to see what they got before they make any more rash decisions. I would like to see all the Flyers young players get a chance next year to stay healthy and play games so we can see what we got. I am preaching patience over action this off season.
- jd250

I stand behind what I say Frost is a top line A guy. He is a 3rd line tops in the NHL.
I try to support this by saying: he is super easy to take off the puck, he seems disinterested at times, he has no jam to his game, he has great hands only at times and I saw him numerous times heading for bench when we were regaining possession, but he was more concern to get off the ice.


I wish MJL could give his expert analysis on Frosty like he gives on RR.
Ive seen MJL pick apart where RRs head turns and down to the most minute detail of skate positioning to prove just how bad he is.
His analysis of Frost he missed a year!!
Only thing he has, is the kid missed a year over a year ago!!!
Ridiculous

Tell me how the flyers can both when you look at who is under contract and what they have in the system in terms of players knocking on the door.

ex selke
hayes
laughton
frost
TK
Joel
JVR
Tippet
Oscar
Cam

Now add in Cates, Brink, Allison, Tanner, Ratcliff, and possibly the 1dt rd pick this year. Not even including the 100% re-signing of ZAC or Brown who is under contract

So how you going to give those "young" guys a chance if you sign vet depth?
- hello it's me 2050

First I am assuming JVR and Oscar will be traded this off season. Then based on what the Flyers have now, here is a possibility.

Couts - Atkinson - Farabee
Frost - Tippet - Cates
Hayes - TK - Laughton
Brown - ? - ?
?

Provorov - Ellis (?)
Sanheim - Risto
York - ?
?

Hart
?

Realistic internal candidates for the 3 forward spots are: Brink, Allison, Laczynski, Ratcliff, Desnoyers, 2022 Top draft pick (if forward).

Realistic internal candidates for the 2 or 3 defense spots (depending on Ellis' health) are: Hogberg, Zamula, 2022 Top draft pick (if defense). But note Hogberg and Zamula are both LHD defenseman. Not including Attard because I think he will need some time on the Phantoms.

Realistic internal candidates for the backup goalie spot: Fedotov, Sandstrom if he is resigned.

So you can see there is will most likely be a need to sign 2 veteran depth players, maybe 3 if a backup goalie is needed, in case the young players don't work out, or of course the injuries that we know will happen. They will for sure need a veteran RHS defenseman.

First I am assuming JVR and Oscar will be traded this off season. Then based on what the Flyers have now, here is a possibility.

Couts - Atkinson - Farabee
Frost - Tippet - Cates
Hayes - TK - Laughton
Brown - ? - ?
?

Provorov - Ellis (?)
Sanheim - Risto
York - ?
?

Hart
?

Realistic internal candidates for the 3 forward spots are: Brink, Allison, Laczynski, Ratcliff, Desnoyers, 2022 Top draft pick (if forward).

Realistic internal candidates for the 2 or 3 defense spots (depending on Ellis' health) are: Hogberg, Zamula, 2022 Top draft pick (if defense). But note Hogberg and Zamula are both LHD defenseman. Not including Attard because I think he will need some time on the Phantoms.

Realistic internal candidates for the backup goalie spot: Fedotov, Sandstrom if he is resigned.

So you can see there is will most likely be a need to sign 2 veteran depth players, maybe 3 if a backup goalie is needed, in case the young players don't work out, or of course the injuries that we know will happen.
- jd250

That is another league bottom feeder roster.

First I am assuming JVR and Oscar will be traded this off season. Then based on what the Flyers have now, here is a possibility.

Couts - Atkinson - Farabee
Frost - Tippet - Cates
Hayes - TK - Laughton
Brown - ? - ?
?

Provorov - Ellis (?)
Sanheim - Risto
York - ?
?

Hart
?

Realistic internal candidates for the 3 forward spots are: Brink, Allison, Laczynski, Ratcliff, Desnoyers, 2022 Top draft pick (if forward).

Realistic internal candidates for the 2 or 3 defense spots (depending on Ellis' health) are: Hogberg, Zamula, 2022 Top draft pick (if defense). But note Hogberg and Zamula are both LHD defenseman. Not including Attard because I think he will need some time on the Phantoms.

Realistic internal candidates for the backup goalie spot: Fedotov, Sandstrom if he is resigned.

So you can see there is will most likely be a need to sign 2 veteran depth players, maybe 3 if a backup goalie is needed, in case the young players don't work out, or of course the injuries that we know will happen.
- jd250

They do not in any way need to sign any depth forwards. NOne. Zero. Zilch. Squat.

If internal players cant cut it then you address at that time. Vets are avaiable 24/7.

Nor do they need vet goalie if they get Fedotov to come over.

out of that post that is what you respond too. Keep up the good work.

Would you like to wager he will be re-signed? I am talking cold hard cash.

Who said anything about Brown except he is under contract?
- hello it's me 2050

You speak about him like he's guaranteed a roster spot. You want to know how the young guys get a chance? Injuries. They happen every year, not to the extent we faced but they happen and young guys always get a shot.

Ghost earned a spot on the Flyers when he was called up due to an injury, Same with York

You listed a bunch of players but that means nothing.

1) There is no rush in getting the young players up. It doesnt hurt them to play in the AHL a little longer unless they are absolutely dominating and there is no way for them to improve their game

2) The roster isnt set in stone. We have no idea who will still be here come training camp. Hell if Ellis isnt progressing as expected, that can change the entire direction this team takes.

3) MacEwen could get signed, doesnt matter. It could be a two way contract or 13th forward type deal. Getting signed isnt a guaranteed spot either.