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sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

May 13 @ 5:29 PM ET
To Arizona
D Erik Brannstrom
7th Overall Pick

To Ottawa
Jakob Chychrun
2022 1st (COL or CAR, whichever is lower on draft day)

When you posted this and asked me if it was simple enough for me I thought you were joking. I did not realize you were being serious. You get my vote for the next Ottawa GM.

Is your real name George McPhee?

- Whatisavailable

Lmfao why would Arizona even think of this trade 😂🤦‍♂️ Hard No from Ari 🙄
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

May 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
your country needs to pass a law making it a capital crime to have more than 1 leafs article in the first 10 "pages" of a sports news site...this is ridiculous, barely anything on the flames or oilers...
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

May 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
If Dubois is a possibility to trade for, I'd be much more game for that instead of Fiala. He lacks the right shot handleless but would add more depth to the top 6 undoubtably. In my mind, a 7th overall pick should get that deal done if the Jets are looking to retool. Top 10 picks should have significant trade value.

Depending on what happens with Florida in the playoffs, Claude Giroux could be a decent signing if the the term is right and only costs you cash and no assets.

The more I think about defence targets, the more I like the idea of trying to snag Dumba from Minny with the cap situation. If you move the 1st rounder for Dubois, you will have to get more creative with a trade but if you add Dumba to the defence corps, you can afford to give up a prospect like Thomson or Bernard Docker plus.

Chychrun would also be a nice addition. He is left handiness, so there would need to be some slot juggling, but could be a fit. The price tag is likely higher for him than it would be for Dumba. Yotes seem to be in no hurry to move him unless the price is right.

Some stars have to align but, I don't think having these 3 types of move is totally unrealistic to happen. Especially, if you want to show the players, fans, and league that you want to make a move to be competitive.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Not interested in moving Thomson+ or JBD+ for Dumba. JBD looks to be at least a solid third pairing guy while Thomson will be top 4 and you don't have to give anything away plus pay Dumba 6 million + if he decides to stay. Think top 6 winger instead.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 13 @ 7:01 PM ET
Not interested in moving Thomson+ or JBD+ for Dumba. JBD looks to be at least a solid third pairing guy while Thomson will be top 4 and you don't have to give anything away plus pay Dumba 6 million + if he decides to stay. Think top 6 winger instead.
- Whatisavailable

Perhaps you missed my suggestion of trading for Dubois and signing Giroux in addition to acquiring a Dumba/Chychrun. That's two top 6 forwards.

No real reason why more than one hole can't be addressed in the offseason unless you limit yourself to only moving the 7th overall pick, which I can certainly see happening. This team has a recent history of holding onto prospects/young players until their trade value flops. Obviously budget issues are a real thing in the Ottawa market, but maybe those reigns loosen with Eugene no longer calling the shots.

Admittedly, my suggestion needs stars to align a bit and have teams have different asking prices and not just wanting that 7th overall pick. Additionally, defensemen can be costly on the trade market. I don't think it will happen, but it's nice to think about.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

May 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
Perhaps you missed my suggestion of trading for Dubois and signing Giroux in addition to acquiring a Dumba/Chychrun. That's two top 6 forwards.

No real reason why more than one hole can't be addressed in the offseason unless you limit yourself to only moving the 7th overall pick, which I can certainly see happening. This team has a recent history of holding onto prospects/young players until their trade value flops. Obviously budget issues are a real thing in the Ottawa market, but maybe those reigns loosen with Eugene no longer calling the shots.

Admittedly, my suggestion needs stars to align a bit and have teams have different asking prices and not just wanting that 7th overall pick. Additionally, defensemen can be costly on the trade market. I don't think it will happen, but it's nice to think about.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I agree it's nice to think about all kinds of things. I'm not against signing Giroux but I somehow think he would be reluctant to come on board for a three year deal. The Dubois option is interesting but where do you play him? I'm happy with Norris and Stutzle as the top six centers.

I don't think they need to trade for a top 4 D because I trust that Sanderson and Thomson will compliment Chabot and Zub quite well so why give them away for an expensive option?

I have posted for a while now that what they need is a bona fide top six winger but I have stressed that there is no urgency. Thomson, Sanderson and JBD need a year to develop and until they do you're not winning anything. They probably will make a ton of mistakes but live with it.

Keep your powder dry and wait for your top six winger deal to come along. Lots of teams with cap issues that are not going away. Teams underperforming that want to shake things up a bit.

This team will be a serious contender two years down the road. Don't screw it up because you want a team that will perennially challenge for a wild card spot NOW.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 13 @ 10:17 PM ET
Lmfao why would Arizona even think of this trade 😂🤦‍♂️ Hard No from Ari 🙄
- sens4life1971

Are you saying in terms of value or likelihood of the deal making sense? Because I was only referring to value OBVIOUSLY. That's what this site is for - 99.99% of hypotheticals
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

May 13 @ 10:20 PM ET
I agree it's nice to think about all kinds of things. I'm not against signing Giroux but I somehow think he would be reluctant to come on board for a three year deal. The Dubois option is interesting but where do you play him? I'm happy with Norris and Stutzle as the top six centers.

I don't think they need to trade for a top 4 D because I trust that Sanderson and Thomson will compliment Chabot and Zub quite well so why give them away for an expensive option?

I have posted for a while now that what they need is a bona fide top six winger but I have stressed that there is no urgency. Thomson, Sanderson and JBD need a year to develop and until they do you're not winning anything. They probably will make a ton of mistakes but live with it.

Keep your powder dry and wait for your top six winger deal to come along. Lots of teams with cap issues that are not going away. Teams underperforming that want to shake things up a bit.

This team will be a serious contender two years down the road. Don't screw it up because you want a team that will perennially challenge for a wild card spot NOW.

- Whatisavailable


Too many times either the GM or the head coach in these instances are trying to save their jobs when they have missed the playoffs for years, like Ottawa has in this situation. Just look at the Canucks and Habs from the last 2 years with GM's and coaches trying to save their jobs, they can royally screw things up. I hope for Sens fans sakes that doesn't happen.
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

May 13 @ 11:14 PM ET
Thinking outside the box but....

How bout:

VGK: Dadanov and Lehner
For
OTT: Murray and Brannstrom
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 14 @ 2:45 AM ET
Thinking outside the box but....

How bout:

VGK: Dadanov and Lehner
For
OTT: Murray and Brannstrom

- GrimmdaGoalie

I like your thinking but not only have I not seen teams trading back for multiple players in a trade - I think GM's egos wouldn't let this happen


I DID think of similar names though (goalies)
Crosside
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.14.2019

May 14 @ 10:03 AM ET
If just me have trouble with refresh. Every time I roll down, refresh happens
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

May 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
I agree it's nice to think about all kinds of things. I'm not against signing Giroux but I somehow think he would be reluctant to come on board for a three year deal. The Dubois option is interesting but where do you play him? I'm happy with Norris and Stutzle as the top six centers.

I don't think they need to trade for a top 4 D because I trust that Sanderson and Thomson will compliment Chabot and Zub quite well so why give them away for an expensive option?

I have posted for a while now that what they need is a bona fide top six winger but I have stressed that there is no urgency. Thomson, Sanderson and JBD need a year to develop and until they do you're not winning anything. They probably will make a ton of mistakes but live with it.

Keep your powder dry and wait for your top six winger deal to come along. Lots of teams with cap issues that are not going away. Teams underperforming that want to shake things up a bit.

This team will be a serious contender two years down the road. Don't screw it up because you want a team that will perennially challenge for a wild card spot NOW.

- Whatisavailable

Agree 100%
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 14 @ 9:38 PM ET
Nick Paul
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

May 14 @ 9:49 PM ET
Nick Paul
- AlfieisKing

Paul eliminates the leafs from the playoffs
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 14 @ 10:06 PM ET
Nick Paul
- AlfieisKing


Amazing
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 14 @ 11:20 PM ET
Nick Paul
- AlfieisKing

Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

May 15 @ 1:22 AM ET
Paul eliminates the leafs from the playoffs
- Mithos

Good for Paul.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 6:33 AM ET

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Amazing
- david22

Good for Paul.
- Whatisavailable

Paul eliminates the leafs from the playoffs
- Mithos



spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 15 @ 8:43 AM ET
Good for Paul.
- Whatisavailable


Yep. His payday is getting bigger and bigger.

Maybe the best trade dorion has ever done
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
And Cody Ceci scores the winner fo Edmonton.

Not the same, but still kinda funny too
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

May 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
And Cody Ceci scores the winner fo Edmonton.

Not the same, but still kinda funny too

- david22


I completely forgot Ceci was a former Sen and out in Edmonton. Incredible to think, that Nick Paul too, both former Sens had a huge part in the outcome of both games.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

May 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
If just me have trouble with refresh. Every time I roll down, refresh happens
- Crosside


Working fine for me. If it's still doing it, I would contact the mods here.
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

May 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
New blog/update/opinion piece?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
And Cody Ceci scores the winner fo Edmonton.
True, saw that game !

Not the same, but still kinda funny too

- david22

I completely forgot Ceci was a former Sen and out in Edmonton. Incredible to think, that Nick Paul too, both former Sens had a huge part in the outcome of both games.
- PuckPix

PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

May 15 @ 6:22 PM ET

- AlfieisKing


Let's see if Gudbranson scores the winner for Calgary tonight and have another former Sen come up big in Game 7.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

May 15 @ 6:22 PM ET

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Classic
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