You're only allowed to apply a 17% Tim Murraying offseason to this version of the Sabres. Anything beyond is a fireable offense.
- TheSabresTaco

17% = 1/6

20 players probably 3 or 4 moves.

Probably the tmgm standard offseason

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/goldenknights/jack-eichel-looks-forward-to-stable-offseason-with-knights-2573299/

"Jack Eichel looks forward to stable offseason with knights"

You are over the cap, and need to add at least 3 bodies to the NHL roster, good luck with sable eich.
- Mentalorgasm5

I mean, the cap has been around for 17 years now. Do we really still think it's the barrier that it pretends to be?

Cory Pronman's Draft Rankings just released.
Interesting how these rankings differ from each other and each version from same author.

Lanuea (sp) isn't in top 29
Nazar in the 2nd half of 1st
Jiricek at 3

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.

I mean, the cap has been around for 17 years now. Do we really still think it's the barrier that it pretends to be?
- buffalofan19

Point is, they need to make some changes to be under that cap.

You're only allowed to apply a 17% Tim Murraying offseason to this version of the Sabres. Anything beyond is a fireable offense.
- TheSabresTaco

It’s been a fun ride

Yes, I understand that he did. Does that automatically mean he didn't want to be here, or he had serious questions.
I'd say the former, and rightly so.
They want him to sign long term in 2 years time...then build a Winner.
Good message sent to the FO, IMO of course.
Good on him.
- IonSabres

It was the right move by Dahlin and his agent, but that makes the next 365 days massively important.

He'll have one year left on his deal after next season, and he'll have one season left before becoming a UFA, and he's ARB eligible, so he'll be in the same contractual situation as Reinhart.

If they cannot sign him to an extension after next season, they should trade him.

They cannot take the risk that they'll lose him for either nothing or a minimal return.

How does a small team improvement next season to say 80-85 points impact Dahlin's mindset?

How about a quiet offseason that leads to that small improvement?

I thought we were ina solid position this draft

Arizona picks 2-30-31-34-36-43-45 + 3rd 5th 6th

jeeez
- DirtyDan

It'd be close, but as far as 1st round value, how much so:

2, 30, 31

or

9, 16, 28

Have to figure 2-9 is > 16-30, but not sure it would be a large jump considering the 3 spot move up at the end of the round.

It was the right move by Dahlin and his agent, but that makes the next 365 days massively important.

He'll have one year left on his deal after next season, and he'll have one season left before becoming a UFA, and he's ARB eligible, so he'll be in the same contractual situation as Reinhart.

If they cannot sign him to an extension after next season, they should trade him.

They cannot take the risk that they'll lose him for either nothing or a minimal return.

How does a small team improvement next season to say 80-85 points impact Dahlin's mindset?

How about a quiet offseason that leads to that small improvement?
- kingcong39

That’s an overreaction

It'd be close, but as far as 1st round value, how much so:

2, 30, 31

or

9, 16, 28

Have to figure 2-9 is > 16-30, but not sure it would be a large jump considering the 3 spot move up at the end of the round.
- RhinoFan

Depends how Slaf or other #2 pick turns out to be. Savoie/Nazar/Kemell etc Could end up being better point producers + Mcgoarty/Howard/Minty should have some decent impact.

I think I lean towards our picks.

Be an interesting draft

That’s an overreaction
- sbroads24

What's the recourse if he won't sign an extension next offseason?

Ride it out until his current contract expires and hope he signs an extension then?

If he doesn't sign one then, trade him at that point?

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/goldenknights/jack-eichel-looks-forward-to-stable-offseason-with-knights-2573299/

"Jack Eichel looks forward to stable offseason with knights"

You are over the cap, and need to add at least 3 bodies to the NHL roster, good luck with sable eich.
- Mentalorgasm5

"The team still realizes his potential. Left wing Max Pacioretty called Eichel 'an elite power-play player.' Owner Bill Foley said he’s '100 percent' behind the trade even after the Knights missed the playoffs."

PP specialist?

"The team still realizes his potential. Left wing Max Pacioretty called Eichel 'an elite power-play player.' Owner Bill Foley said he’s '100 percent' behind the trade even after the Knights missed the playoffs."

PP specialist?


- Hank Balling

I think Max Patch just called Jackie-boy, "Andy Delmore".

It was the right move by Dahlin and his agent, but that makes the next 365 days massively important.

He'll have one year left on his deal after next season, and he'll have one season left before becoming a UFA, and he's ARB eligible, so he'll be in the same contractual situation as Reinhart.

If they cannot sign him to an extension after next season, they should trade him.

They cannot take the risk that they'll lose him for either nothing or a minimal return.

How does a small team improvement next season to say 80-85 points impact Dahlin's mindset?

How about a quiet offseason that leads to that small improvement?
- kingcong39

He's in an even better position, with a 7.2m QO. The Sabres are also in a better position, since he'd be in significantly higher demand than Sam was. Not sure it has to be done next summer, but that's when KA's job really starts. The honeymoon will finally be over and there will be actual expectations on him.

He's in an even better position, with a 7.2m QO. The Sabres are also in a better position, since he'd be in significantly higher demand than Sam was. Not sure it has to be done next summer, but that's when KA's job really starts. The honeymoon will finally be over and there will be actual expectations on him.
- Lunaion

oops accidentally flagged.

I think he has expectations this summer. IF he does not obtain a goalie that is significantly better than Anderson this summer its a failure. That is bare minimum for me.

He should also add a 4-6 D-man to replace Fitz. He's not a NHL regular imo.

If the Nashville Predators offered RyJo basically for free, would you take him?

If the Nashville Predators offered RyJo basically for free, would you take him?
- Hank Balling

Little skeptical but yeah I probably would.

It was the right move by Dahlin and his agent, but that makes the next 365 days massively important.

He'll have one year left on his deal after next season, and he'll have one season left before becoming a UFA, and he's ARB eligible, so he'll be in the same contractual situation as Reinhart.

If they cannot sign him to an extension after next season, they should trade him.

They cannot take the risk that they'll lose him for either nothing or a minimal return.

How does a small team improvement next season to say 80-85 points impact Dahlin's mindset?

How about a quiet offseason that leads to that small improvement?
- kingcong39

I understand all that and agree to most of it.
I don't agree with the original opening statement of your post, which is only what I challenged...that he didn't want to be here when he re-signed.
And now his statements this season have revealed how much he likes it here.
That said, 125% agree that the FO must show him a viable plan supported by actual moves to build a winner.

Which brings up an interesting point of walking the line of how many is the right is the right move when much of the roster is still in young development phase...harder to make proper evaluations on.
Who is going to be next season's Tage vs Nylander.

I think most if us agree with minimally:
1G
2RhD for Power

The question then becomes
Power forward, preferably at 2 or 3 LW, maybe 1LW
3LhD with some snarl/ nastiness

I understand all that and agree to most of it.
I don't agree with the original opening statement of your post, which is only what I challenged...that he didn't want to be here when he re-signed.
And now his statements this season have revealed how much he likes it here.
That said, 125% agree that the FO must show him a viable plan supported by actual moves to build a winner.

Which brings up an interesting point of walking the line of how many is the right is the right move when much of the roster is still in young development phase...harder to make proper evaluations on.
Who is going to be next season's Tage vs Nylander.

I think most if us agree with minimally:
1G
2RhD for Power

The question then becomes
Power forward, preferably at 2 or 3 LW, maybe 1LW
3LhD with some snarl/ nastiness
- IonSabres

Don't hold your breath on that. KA pretty much said at his end of season presser that Joker's play basically negated the pressure to go get a RD to play w Power. They were still going to go get a D man, but a side-specific D wasn't a necessity.

If the Nashville Predators offered RyJo basically for free, would you take him?
- Hank Balling

yes


others will slap your pee pee for suggesting it though

oops accidentally flagged.

I think he has expectations this summer. IF he does not obtain a goalie that is significantly better than Anderson this summer its a failure. That is bare minimum for me.

He should also add a 4-6 D-man to replace Fitz. He's not a NHL regular imo.
- DirtyDan

Get your 2rhd partner for Power, that pushes Joker down.
Trade Fitz to NJ with Daddy.
Get a rugged 3LhD and Bryson is your 7th.

And, yes 1G is a must.
He does that, I am very happy with the offseason.

Don't hold your breath on that. KA pretty much said at his end of season presser that Joker's play basically negated the pressure to go get a RD to play w Power. They were still going to go get a D man, but a side-specific D wasn't a necessity.
- Powerslave

Things change right?
30 days ago it was 2RhD was a priority.

What's the recourse if he won't sign an extension next offseason?

Ride it out until his current contract expires and hope he signs an extension then?

If he doesn't sign one then, trade him at that point?
- kingcong39

Especially with power and samuelsson breathing down dahlins next for important minutes

He's in an even better position, with a 7.2m QO. The Sabres are also in a better position, since he'd be in significantly higher demand than Sam was. Not sure it has to be done next summer, but that's when KA's job really starts. The honeymoon will finally be over and there will be actual expectations on him.
- Lunaion

Were there no expectations on the eichel, risto and Sam's trades?

He crushed those trades, and got what he could from florida

Especially with power and samuelsson breathing down dahlins next for important minutes
- Boss34

all 3 of them will get their 25 minutes a night if they deserve it