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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm actually pretty surprised at the part about a couple Isles players not being shocked at the firing. Certainly starting to sound like he may have a lost a good chunk of the room.
- eichiefs9


In hindsight, if it's true, it does kind of make sense. Perhaps the core got tired of playing the system. Maybe they wanted to play more run-and-gun. It could be why the team was so bad this year. It could also explain why Wally and Tito were sat so much. Desperation.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
Nope. There is a reason he wins though and that’s because he makes the team play a low event d system. It wears thin on players after a while but it gets results. No way the isles make the conference finals the past couple years without that system.
- TurdFergeson



Absolutely agree.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
In hindsight, if it's true, it does kind of make sense. Perhaps the core got tired of playing the system. Maybe they wanted to play more run-and-gun. It could be why the team was so bad this year. It could also explain why Wally and Tito were sat so much. Desperation.
- Isleshockeyman

My major issue with that is that the Islanders do not have even close to the kind of offensive firepower to play a run-and-gun style. If Lou is going to hire the kind of coach that wants to play like that then he better be prepared to bring in some real offensive talent. Andy Greene breaking out of the zone by chipping it off the glass in the general direction of Zach Parise isn't going to cut it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 3:43 PM ET
I'm actually pretty surprised at the part about a couple Isles players not being shocked at the firing. Certainly starting to sound like he may have a lost a good chunk of the room.
- eichiefs9

Not surprised by it at all. Barzal especially wore it on his sleeve imo. Not saying he was wrong or right about having said negative feelings but the guy seemed visually pissed at his situation at times. Only thing I would be shocked at is if he weren’t one of the players not surprised by trotz being fired.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
My major issue with that is that the Islanders do not have even close to the kind of offensive firepower to play a run-and-gun style. If Lou is going to hire the kind of coach that wants to play like that then he better be prepared to bring in some real offensive talent. Andy Greene breaking out of the zone by chipping it off the glass in the general direction of Zach Parise isn't going to cut it.
- eichiefs9

Like you said in an earlier post this should be a busy offseason for lameriello. Unless of course he actually believes this is all on trotz and this team is just peachy. Let’s hope that’s not the case team needs to cut ties with some players.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Like you said in an earlier post this should be a busy offseason for lameriello. Unless of course he actually believes this is all on trotz and this team is just peachy.
- Cptmjl

At this point it has to be a busy offseason for Lou. Trotz's system hid a lot of the flaws that this roster currently has. A new, more free-flowing system is going to expose the complete lack of speed and skill.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
At this point it has to be a busy offseason for Lou. Trotz's system hid a lot of the flaws that this roster currently has. A new, more free-flowing system is going to expose the complete lack of speed and skill.
- eichiefs9

I can't wait to see Bailey Unchained.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 4:00 PM ET
I can't wait to see Bailey Unchained.
- JohnScammo

Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
My major issue with that is that the Islanders do not have even close to the kind of offensive firepower to play a run-and-gun style. If Lou is going to hire the kind of coach that wants to play like that then he better be prepared to bring in some real offensive talent. Andy Greene breaking out of the zone by chipping it off the glass in the general direction of Zach Parise isn't going to cut it.
- eichiefs9


Oh, I completely agree with you. This team, as currently constructed, does not have the talent nor the speed to play an up-tempo style.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
I can't wait to see Bailey Unchained.
- JohnScammo




*unchained*
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
James Nichols @JamesNicholsNYI
26s
Via TJMS, @RealKyper indicates there was a void between Barzal and Trotz.

The same source as below indicated to me back in February if it came down to choosing between Trotz and Barzal, the #isles choose Barzal. And now, here we are.
LItransplant44
Season Ticket Holder
New York Islanders
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Joined: 04.25.2016

May 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
My major issue with that is that the Islanders do not have even close to the kind of offensive firepower to play a run-and-gun style. If Lou is going to hire the kind of coach that wants to play like that then he better be prepared to bring in some real offensive talent. Andy Greene breaking out of the zone by chipping it off the glass in the general direction of Zach Parise isn't going to cut it.
- eichiefs9


I think our defense with the kids playing would be fine. Offense needs help.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
James Nichols @JamesNicholsNYI
26s
Via TJMS, @RealKyper indicates there was a void between Barzal and Trotz.

The same source as below indicated to me back in February if it came down to choosing between Trotz and Barzal, the #isles choose Barzal. And now, here we are.

- eichiefs9


Seems like pieces are starting to fall into place.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
Seems like pieces are starting to fall into place.
- Isleshockeyman

Indeed. And that worries me if Barzal has that kind of power in the organization.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
James Nichols @JamesNicholsNYI
26s
Via TJMS, @RealKyper indicates there was a void between Barzal and Trotz.

The same source as below indicated to me back in February if it came down to choosing between Trotz and Barzal, the #isles choose Barzal. And now, here we are.

- eichiefs9

Like I said not surprised at all…
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 9 @ 4:27 PM ET
Barzal did not seem happy at all. Barry is a great coach and I would have kept him but it's very difficult trying to win each game 1-0 or 2-1. Barzal is an offensive player. We cannot play the no defense of Cappy and Doug days but there needs to be a happy medium and the Isles have to do a better job especially developing young forwards. Lou has to take his share of blame as well. Best of luck to Barry and Thanks for the success!
- ses111

I remember you!
HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
Lou wants Quenneville!! He can do it!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 4:38 PM ET


How could I not come back with this news? Will not be a dull off-season for sure.

- ses111

It’s going to be real funny when he hires a new coach and brings back Chara, Greene, and the same team
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 9 @ 4:59 PM ET


How could I not come back with this news? Will not be a dull off-season for sure.

- ses111

Welcome back! And I agree that the off-season will be anything but dull.

Hockeyislife
New York Islanders
Joined: 05.29.2018

May 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
I said this awhile back that he was getting fired and here we are today. First year in a state of the arena and they miss the playoffs. Saw this coming.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
It’s going to be real funny when he hires a new coach and brings back Chara, Greene, and the same team
- Cptmjl


I was going to say the same damn thing.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Welcome back! And I agree that the off-season will be anything but dull.
- JohnScammo


I'm not so sure. It's entirely possible that few improvements will be made to the team.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 5:56 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/barry-trotz-firing-is-right-out-of-lou-lamoriellos-playbook/
- ses111

Been saying exactly this as well. We shouldn’t be surprised by this it’s his MO.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
Barry Trotz for the HOF.
- JohnScammo

chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

May 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
I had been thinking all along that they might move Barzal. I dont think that way anymore.
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