Pens are the better team. Without Crosby they will not win another game though.
- mickel25

Yea sure, Carter and Friedman makes them the better team 🥳

As pathetic as it gets.
- PLindbergh31

Funny. Right now, I'm thinking of something—actually someone—even more pathetic than that. No doubt you've seen him quite often.

Sadly misguided, prior Giroux-bashing, Flyer’s fan suddenly sees the light and says “ahh, it really is a team sport. Who knew?”




From the very back of the room…slowly raised hand

As pathetic as it gets. Reduced to rooting for a player to win for another franchise.
- PLindbergh31

giroux was always a stud. a lot of flyers fans didnt deserve him.


and yeah im bitter and drunk and finally time to put the trolling pants on

shout out to carter hart on the phils broadcast tonight

shout out to carter hart on the phils broadcast tonight
- 2Real

Yeah but giroux you clown

giroux was always a stud. a lot of flyers fans didnt deserve him.


and yeah im bitter and drunk and finally time to put the trolling pants on
- stayinthefnnet

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he is. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer, but very good.

I'm just saying he came up small in the playoffs for the Flyers. In his last 35 playoff games he scored 4 goals. He had 14 assists over those games which is also below his normal production. 18 points in 35 games. That isn't getting it done.

So for Flyers "fans" to puff out their chest now that he's playing well in the playoffs for another team is comical.

So you're going to ignore Fletcher's comments that he's going to be aggressive in free agency and with trades?
- MJL

Unlike you, I pay attention to the entirety of Fletcher's comments, not just a portion of his comments that suit my narrative. To quote

"An aggressive retool to me is being aggressive in *every* area, and I think we already started when we moved 3 quality players at the deadline and we picked up Owen Tippet, a 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, we were able to resign 3 of our unsigned college kids who could have elected for free agency this summer, so its being aggressive in all phases. Certainly part of this is we have to get younger, we have to get more talented, get faster, and then we have to aggressively look at trades and free agency and can we add a couple of players to *supplement* what we have here to make this team better."

Now tell me, how can any Flyer fan disagree with this assessment and approach??

I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he is. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer, but very good.

I'm just saying he came up small in the playoffs for the Flyers. In his last 35 playoff games he scored 4 goals. He had 14 assists over those games which is also below his normal production. 18 points in 35 games. That isn't getting it done.

So for Flyers "fans" to puff out their chest now that he's playing well in the playoffs for another team is comical.
- PLindbergh31

You're wasting your time. The facts always seem to get in the way of some folks agendas on here. I mean, the one clown just likes to call everyone morons and idiots, and yet, he never adds anything of substance on here. The fact is that Giroux was ineffective for the Flyers come playoff time since 2012. Obviously not entirely his fault when you don't have guys that can finish, but at times he was downright invisible. Of course, now it's time to pump out our chest and say I told you so. Some guys on here just insist on being dorks! Don't waste your time fighting it with them. Thanks!

Unlike you, I pay attention to the entirety of Fletcher's comments, not just a portion of his comments that suit my narrative. To quote

"An aggressive retool to me is being aggressive in *every* area, and I think we already started when we moved 3 quality players at the deadline and we picked up Owen Tippet, a 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, we were able to resign 3 of our unsigned college kids who could have elected for free agency this summer, so its being aggressive in all phases. Certainly part of this is we have to get younger, we have to get more talented, get faster, and then we have to aggressively look at trades and free agency and can we add a couple of players to *supplement* what we have here to make this team better."

Now tell me, how can any Flyer fan disagree with this assessment and approach??
- jd250

I don't think anyone would really disagree with this assessment(ok, some folks with agendas would), but now he has to execute it to perfection and let's just say I have serious doubts that he has the ability to do that.

So proud of Giroux, I really hope this team goes all the way. He must be giggling like a schoolgirl that he got out of this cesspool of incompetence.

I don't think anyone would really disagree with this assessment(ok, some folks with agendas would), but now he has to execute it to perfection and let's just say I have serious doubts that he has the ability to do that.
- Phillywhiteout

that is fair Fletcher has made a lot of mistakes, and this is a very big off-season for him and for the team it's either make it or break it for him.

that is fair Fletcher has made a lot of mistakes, and this is a very big off-season for him and for the team it's either make it or break it for him.
- jd250

He did do some things that are questionable. My biggest concern is it does look like he got their current value wrong and made moves off of that last summer. It is a big off season and he hasn’t built up anywhere close to enough equity as the GM for me to think he can get this turned around. Obviously I hope he surprises me.

that is fair Fletcher has made a lot of mistakes, and this is a very big off-season for him and for the team it's either make it or break it for him.
- jd250

On the other hand, what exactly can Fletcher really do this off-season?

Draft: I have zero confidence with the Flyers scouting and development over the last decade or so. They can draft decent complimentary type roster players in the 1st round, but they always seem to get the same whether it's a high pick, mid round or even late and never anything in a higher echelon. Later rounds are just almost always raw projects that never tend to be more than just callups or never have beens.

UFA: The Flyers have no cap space to even fill a need due to constant and consistent mistakes made in previous years. They almost never take risks on cheap UFAs that end up being overachievers, they stick with dime a dozen specialized players.

Trading: Pretty much the only option, but Fletcher would have to put together a package together, which would most likely be considered overpaying, just to get a player of need if one was even available. He could try to shed some salary, but there's going to be very few takers without some kind of incentive. Best case the Flyers tend to make trades that go in parallel and end up in the same situation anyway.

Coach: Basically the only thing that could make a difference this offseason. Whether Fletcher or another GM, they need to find the right coach/staff that can put together a system that works with what they currently have and overachieve until they have a realistic chance to make more drastic changes to the roster.

I agree 100%. The Flyers stifled Couturier.
- MJL

Had to teach him how to play a 200 ft game -- that is what wins hockey games

that is fair Fletcher has made a lot of mistakes, and this is a very big off-season for him and for the team it's either make it or break it for him.
- jd250

So you are now saying the chuckles moves were mistakes - yet you trust him to get it right this time?

Unlike you, I pay attention to the entirety of Fletcher's comments, not just a portion of his comments that suit my narrative. To quote

"An aggressive retool to me is being aggressive in *every* area, and I think we already started when we moved 3 quality players at the deadline and we picked up Owen Tippet, a 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, we were able to resign 3 of our unsigned college kids who could have elected for free agency this summer, so its being aggressive in all phases. Certainly part of this is we have to get younger, we have to get more talented, get faster, and then we have to aggressively look at trades and free agency and can we add a couple of players to *supplement* what we have here to make this team better."

Now tell me, how can any Flyer fan disagree with this assessment and approach??
- jd250

Moved 3 quality players and brought in Owen Tippet

You're wasting your time. The facts always seem to get in the way of some folks agendas on here. I mean, the one clown just likes to call everyone morons and idiots, and yet, he never adds anything of substance on here. The fact is that Giroux was ineffective for the Flyers come playoff time since 2012. Obviously not entirely his fault when you don't have guys that can finish, but at times he was downright invisible. Of course, now it's time to pump out our chest and say I told you so. Some guys on here just insist on being dorks! Don't waste your time fighting it with them. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

and you add so much, you idiot moron. Thanks!!!%#%!^!%!&&!&^!

Soon to be Flyers draft pick David Jiricek scores at the Wotld Championship.

and you add so much, you idiot moron. Thanks!!!%#%!^!%!&&!&^!
- THE BLACK HAND

Dude, I've forgotten more about hockey than you'll ever know! You are basically a tire track in the underwear of life. Bet you never strapped on a pair of skates in your life? Wow, would I love to get a clown such as yourself on a sheet of ice. Go Sixas!! LOSER!

Moved 3 quality players and brought in Owen Tippet



- THE BLACK HAND

jGiroux and Braun a not quality veteran players?

So you are now saying the chuckles moves were mistakes - yet you trust him to get it right this time?
- corduroy

he has made some mistakes sure who can argue with that He's also done a fair amount of good things also

I think Boudreau was definitely on Fletcher’s radar. Now that he’s off the board, I wonder if Chuck makes a push for Bruce’s buddy, Trotz. Maybe Trotz would be a better fit in Florida though.

jGiroux and Braun a not quality veteran players?
- jd250

Dude, I've forgotten more about hockey than you'll ever know! You are basically a tire track in the underwear of life. Bet you never strapped on a pair of skates in your life? Wow, would I love to get a clown such as yourself on a sheet of ice. Go Sixas!! LOSER!

- Phillywhiteout

you must have forgotten all of the knowledgeable and poignant information