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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 17 @ 9:25 AM ET
The notion of "stunting" young players growth needs a reality check. You don't stunt a player's growth by bringing in other good players. You stunt their growth by bringing in so-called "veterans" who aren't actually very good.
- buffalofan19


Agreed. If anything I think that as an attacking defenseman he could really help Dahlin and Power continue to grow in that area.

Also, we are going to have to bring in a big name (translation: contract) or two anyway so we better make peace with it.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
The notion of "stunting" young players growth needs a reality check. You don't stunt a player's growth by bringing in other good players. You stunt their growth by bringing in so-called "veterans" who aren't actually very good.
- buffalofan19


As a blanket statement I disagree.
To me, It all depends on the position being filled, right.
Fill a position of need, absolutely it helps.
Bring in a guy where you have a good young guy who needs experience, well that does stunt his growth.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
I've got them at roughly $9M under the cap floor using the Evolving Hockey contract projections for their RFA's and still needing to sign a goaltender, if UPL is on the NHL roster, which is expected.
- kingcong39


There's room for a trade, a short term goalie, top 4 D (this is expected via Adams numerous statements) and possibly a top 6 or 9 forward.

I would love to be in a position to not have to Boychuk the roster, just don't know how realistic that is. I think you're trading for the D and signing the G. What if that D is on an ELC? Or under 4M? Cause we know the goalie won't be too expensive. The best UFAs will want large long term deals and that's not of interest to Kevo. Fleury is probably the guy or kind of guy he wants. Low cash, low term. Wildcard to me is how they handle a forward.

Letang and Malkin would be a lot of fun. It's very hard to see why they'd be interested though. What we do know is that Karmanos would be leading those talks.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
No
Dahlin-Samuelsson
Power-Letang
Joker -XXX

- ImThatGuy


How much you paying a guy to play 2nd line d minutes?


2 x 11 million.

Then convince a hall of Famer to play 2nd line minutes in buffalo


NO
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
How much you paying a guy to play 2nd line d minutes?


2 x 11 million.

Then convince a hall of Famer to play 2nd line minutes in buffalo


NO

- Boss34


Personally I don't want Malkin. he's A shell of himself and cat stay healthy anymore. Injuries have caught up to him. Misses 20-25+ games a season now.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
The only way he would come here is on a 1-year deal, basically to wait out a season where certain other teams can clear salary. Even that scenario has about a 5% chance of happening, if that. I'm not convinced he's done in Pittsburgh.
- buffalofan19


Good post

Maybe a tailor hall move? Sign for a year, get traded to a team that couldn't afford your full salary. A preferred team like Boston , making sure you get another kick at the cup.

I see the same thing with pk88 and buffalo at the deadline 👊
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
From the blog:

I’m not saying he can’t get better, he can get better, but he’s going to get better when you get better players around him, not because he’s going to get older.

- kingcong39


I see your being a f@ckface again today.

Congratulations

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Adams has more power then you think, the Pegula's respect him a lot and listen to him.
- SABRES 89


I'm not inside the org but I feel the same. Once Ralph was exorcised, it's appeared that Pegula finally took a step back and let Kev and Jason run the org.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
There's room for a trade, a short term goalie, top 4 D (this is expected via Adams numerous statements) and possibly a top 6 or 9 forward.

I would love to be in a position to not have to Boychuk the roster, just don't know how realistic that is. I think you're trading for the D and signing the G. What if that D is on an ELC? Or under 4M? Cause we know the goalie won't be too expensive. The best UFAs will want large long term deals and that's not of interest to Kevo. Fleury is probably the guy or kind of guy he wants. Low cash, low term. Wildcard to me is how they handle a forward.

Letang and Malkin would be a lot of fun. It's very hard to see why they'd be interested though. What we do know is that Karmanos would be leading those talks.

- TheSabresTaco



This.

Not holding my breath that it all happens, though.

Imo, bare minimum is a vet goalie and a vet D.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 9:33 AM ET
There's room for a trade, a short term goalie, top 4 D (this is expected via Adams numerous statements) and possibly a top 6 or 9 forward.

I would love to be in a position to not have to Boychuk the roster, just don't know how realistic that is. I think you're trading for the D and signing the G. What if that D is on an ELC? Or under 4M? Cause we know the goalie won't be too expensive. The best UFAs will want large long term deals and that's not of interest to Kevo. Fleury is probably the guy or kind of guy he wants. Low cash, low term. Wildcard to me is how they handle a forward.

Letang and Malkin would be a lot of fun. It's very hard to see why they'd be interested though. What we do know is that Karmanos would be leading those talks.

- TheSabresTaco


It's why Marchment and Comrie make sense at forward and goal.

Neither will cost much, nor be long term, and both are solid.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
The notion of "stunting" young players growth needs a reality check. You don't stunt a player's growth by bringing in other good players. You stunt their growth by bringing in so-called "veterans" who aren't actually very good.
- buffalofan19


On paper this makes sense.

0% chance we pay malkin or letang.

Especially letang.

Think terry p. Pays a vet 11 million a year, to play line 2 minutes. When; The last thing this team needs is a overpriced ufa top 3 defenseman


It's a fun (not really fun) or realistic offseason discussion.
Enjoy , I'm out
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
I see your being a f@ckface again today.

Congratulations

- Boss34


Can't handle a simple comment or question?

Poor Boss. Crying in his Girgensons jersey.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
The notion of "stunting" young players growth needs a reality check. You don't stunt a player's growth by bringing in other good players. You stunt their growth by bringing in so-called "veterans" who aren't actually very good.
- buffalofan19


True.

If they get Ralph'd, that's stunting. They play the roles they're capable of, put into challenging situations to learn, grow and excel, and also be surrounded by quality vets who are great leaders and good players.. well that's where we want to be.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
It's why Marchment and Comrie make sense at forward and goal.

Neither will cost much, nor be long term, and both are solid.

- kingcong39


I like the Marchment idea. I have no interest in Comrie.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
As a blanket statement I disagree.
To me, It all depends on the position being filled, right.
Fill a position of need, absolutely it helps.
Bring in a guy where you have a good young guy who needs experience, well that does stunt his growth.

- IonSabres



Voice of reason ☝️


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Enjoy , I'm out
- Boss34


Your best comment today.

Promise to be out?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Voice of reason ☝️
- Boss34


You said you were out.

That lasted less than 2 minutes.

Hardly surprising.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 17 @ 9:39 AM ET
You said you were out.

That lasted less than 2 minutes.

Hardly surprising.

- kingcong39


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
Can't handle a simple comment or question?

Poor Boss. Crying in his Girgensons jersey.

- kingcong39



You're fragile and should watch your attitude around here ☝️

Its gonna be a long summer for you, if you keep poking at me.


And there girgensons pjs not a Jersey.

Looks like your extra small jankowski Underroos are cutting off blood to your brain

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
True.

If they get Ralph'd, that's stunting. They play the roles they're capable of, put into challenging situations to learn, grow and excel, and also be surrounded by quality vets who are great leaders and good players.. well that's where we want to be.

- TheSabresTaco


My point is that you can't refuse to improve your roster just because you want to make room for a guy with four games of NHL experience. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the Sabres swing big and bring in Malkin and Forsberg. Yes, I have a better chance of winning the Powerball this weekend, but humor me. Jack Quinn's development would be just fine playing on a 3rd line with Cozens and Krebs. Nobody complained about Roy's and Vanek's development when they were on a 3rd line. Same goes for Peterka being slotted down.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:45 AM ET
You said you were out.

That lasted less than 2 minutes.

Hardly surprising.

- kingcong39


Your the LESS THAN 2 minute guy 😀😀😀

Jankowski39
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 17 @ 9:45 AM ET
How much you paying a guy to play 2nd line d minutes?


2 x 11 million.

Then convince a hall of Famer to play 2nd line minutes in buffalo


NO

- Boss34


The idea of - at his age - not having to be "the man" might be attractive to him. Besides, I have a feeling that he would probably be playing just as much as the first line.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
You're fragile and should watch your attitude around here ☝️

Its gonna be a long summer for you, if you keep poking at me.

And there girgensons pjs not a Jersey.

Looks like your extra small jankowski Underroos are cutting off blood to your brain

- Boss34


Being called fragile by a guy who used the word (frank)face as a reply when I posted a comment directly from the blog is hilarious 😂😂😅😅

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
The idea of - at his age - not having to be "the man" might be attractive to him. Besides, I have a feeling that he would probably be playing just as much as the first line.
- Slump Buster


I'm not sure if we're "that destination " for these guys.

Sabres need to bring in guys via trade IMO.

ufas rarely work out
Last paycheck is gonna cash in long term IMO
Probably in Pittsburgh
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
I'm not sure if we're "that destination " for these guys.

Sabres need to bring in guys via trade IMO.

ufas rarely work out
Last paycheck is gonna cash in long term IMO
Probably in Pittsburgh

- Boss34


That's the ideal route, but a 1 or even a 2 year deal, even at a massive salary isn't going to hurt this team at all. Good cap management is the flexibility to get the higher dollar contracts off your books as soon as possible.
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