Thanks carol.

No problems giving Boeser his qualifying offer if they can't get him at a discount. Sheesh.

After hearing that, I'd imagine Boeser's agent is going to push for the qualifier.

There's a lot of reason to doubt that based on the source of the rumor. The "journalist" who said it spreads stuff all the time that is never true.

Realistically, the rumor from a much more trusted media source is Malkin wants 3 years/$20M... so about $6.8M. To me, I'd make that deal 100/100 times.
- SuperHenderson13

I don't know other sources from other teams whether they are truthful or not.

I would probably do that as well. Maybe Van can sign Miller to an 8 year deal at 6.8 AAV

Thanks carol.

No problems giving Boeser his qualifying offer if they can't get him at a discount. Sheesh.

After hearing that, I'd imagine Boeser's agent is going to push for the qualifier.
- boonerbuck

Well he did say in order to retain control. It could go both ways for the player, maybe a 3-4 year deal suits him best.

Well he did say in order to retain control. It could go both ways for the player, maybe a 3-4 year deal suits him best.
- golfingsince

True... or Boeser could end up with full control after this next season on the market. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I wonder how Don feels about management saying they have the cap space and no issues with qualifying him?

True... or Boeser could end up with full control after this next season on the market. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I wonder how Don feels about management saying they have the cap space and no issues with qualifying him?

- boonerbuck

True... or Boeser could end up with full control after this next season on the market. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I wonder how Don feels about management saying they have the cap space and no issues with qualifying him?

- boonerbuck

You think this management is going to give full control to a player?

True... or Boeser could end up with full control after this next season on the market. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

I wonder how Don feels about management saying they have the cap space and no issues with qualifying him?

- boonerbuck

Qualifying is for 1 year, that's a huge risk for the player as well. He needs to score at least 30G to cash in on a deal instead of playing on another 1 year deal. That's assuming he doesn't get injured badly enough to effectively end his career.



I think a 3 year deal is a sweet spot for both the team and player. Long enough for him to have security and for us to lower the AAV. Short enough for him to get a long deal afterwards at whatever his play merits.

You think this management is going to give full control to a player?
- manvanfan

Giving him his qualifier isn't much in the way of management's control. They can try and trade his 7.5m contract... but what would the return be for it with the potential of him going UFA at the end of it? Or Keep him at that salary and let him walk at the end of it? Having very short term control in those two scenarios doesn't seem like much of a win win.

Giving him his qualifier isn't much in the way of management's control. They can try and trade his 7.5m contract... but what would the return be for it with the potential of him going UFA at the end of it? Or Keep him at that salary and let him walk at the end of it? Having very short term control in those two scenarios doesn't seem like much of a win win.
- boonerbuck

So if he tanks and you sell him for less. Does it really matter if he is no good anymore? Sign him 3 years and he sucks? what's the difference, have to pay someone to take the contract off your hands is worse than getting trading him at low value.

Qualifying is for 1 year, that's a huge risk for the player as well. He needs to score at least 30G to cash in on a deal instead of playing on another 1 year deal. That's assuming he doesn't get injured badly enough to effectively end his career.



I think a 3 year deal is a sweet spot for both the team and player. Long enough for him to have security and for us to lower the AAV. Short enough for him to get a long deal afterwards at whatever his play merits.
- golfingsince

Even without 30 goals he'll still get paid reasonable money and already having cashed in this upcoming season... Elsewhere he'd still get the kind of money we assume he'll sign his 3 year deal here for. He's money to get over 20 goals even when missing games. He's a boost to most team's PP and young still. The threat of a bad injury is there but I doubt that tilts the scales too much.

So if he tanks and you sell him for less. Does it really matter if he is no good anymore? Sign him 3 years and he sucks? what's the difference, have to pay someone to take the contract off your hands is worse than getting trading him at low value.
- manvanfan

I was talking about how much the limited control is if he is qualified on a 1 year deal. Is it really that much control? I think you are taking my comment in a different direction. I'm not debating 3 years vs qualifier...

Even without 30 goals he'll still get paid reasonable money and already having cashed in this upcoming season... Elsewhere he'd still get the kind of money we assume he'll sign his 3 year deal here for. He's money to get over 20 goals even when missing games. He's a boost to most team's PP and young still. The threat of a bad injury is there but I doubt that tilts the scales too much.
- boonerbuck

He's an RFA again after next season. His first year, like Hughes didn't count towards UFA eligibility.

So basically it's come to a deal or play on your RFA rights on consecutive seasons. If he's on an RFA deal he's very tradable at the deadline, especially if you retain salary.

He's an RFA again after next season. His first year, like Hughes didn't count towards UFA eligibility.

So basically it's come to a deal or play on your RFA rights on consecutive seasons. If he's on an RFA deal he's very tradable at the deadline, especially if you retain salary.
- golfingsince

Oh ok then. I thought he was UFA at 26 if his contract expired. That changes everything...

Oh ok then. I thought he was UFA at 26 if his contract expired. That changes everything...
- boonerbuck

Don probably thinks you're a dipshit right about now.

Oh ok then. I thought he was UFA at 26 if his contract expired. That changes everything...
- boonerbuck

I think it's 28 or 7 eligible seasons. He's 25 and has 5 in the bank.

Yeah so It is what it is, I wouldn't buckle for anything near his QO long term. a 2 year deal takes him to UFA so it's either 3,4 or play on it and go from there?

Boeser takes discount or qualify and trade at TDL.
Miller all depends on Term and $. Trade if they don't work.
Horvat see above.

Going
Florida in 7
Carolina in 7
Avalanche in 5
Calgary in 5

Giving him his qualifier isn't much in the way of management's control. They can try and trade his 7.5m contract... but what would the return be for it with the potential of him going UFA at the end of it? Or Keep him at that salary and let him walk at the end of it? Having very short term control in those two scenarios doesn't seem like much of a win win.
- boonerbuck

I think he’s still an RFA at the end of a 1 year deal.

Boeser takes discount or qualify and trade at TDL.
Miller all depends on Term and $. Trade if they don't work.
Horvat see above.

Going
Florida in 7
Carolina in 7
Avalanche in 5
Calgary in 5
- SMP8719

Florida 6
Rags 6
Avs 7
Flames 6

Panthers look a little tentative……let’s GO!

I think he’s still an RFA at the end of a 1 year deal.
- 1970vintage

You are late to the party. Saved you a beer though... it's the one we think was roofied.

Panthers look a little tentative……let’s GO!
- Pacificgem

They probably aren't used to playing in front of a crowd at home.

I was talking about how much the limited control is if he is qualified on a 1 year deal. Is it really that much control? I think you are taking my comment in a different direction. I'm not debating 3 years vs qualifier...
- boonerbuck

I think it's a situation that happens a lot. Not something Rutherford seems at all worried about

You are late to the party. Saved you a beer though... it's the one we think was roofied.

- boonerbuck

Been a while since I woke up in a ditch with no pants and two black eyes. But what the heck.

They probably aren't used to playing in front of a crowd at home.
- Load Management

They’re alive now