Oh of course, if anything Bunting exceeded every expectations this year and you'd expect Hyman to be better.

My point was that Hyman was still effective playing injured last year in my book. Bunting wasn't really so maybe he shouldn't have remained out there on the first line.

Not sure who the other options were though.
- Scabeh

Small sample size though, and coming into a series late after an extended absence is a tough go for anybody.

I do miss Hyman though. He would've been good in this series; need to find another one for cheap.

C'mon you're old enough to remember United Empire Loyalists.
- bobbyisno1

Prince LH or whatever is what you get when you merge United Empire Loyalists and Q

Did TB roll out 6 seasons of futility after bowing out in round 1?

Or did they win the CUP the next year.

Big difference, no?
- Nasty_Duck

TB missed the playoffs 4 times out of 5 after selecting their 1st and 2nd overall. Stamkos and Hedman.

Much betterer than making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round.

Not making the playoffs would have screwed the fan narrative of losing 5 straight 1st rounds though.

No idea why this got deleted. I’ll take out the “loser mentality part”. But regardless the above remains true ^

Depends on where you consider the start of the 6 seasons being. Perspective am I right 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

The fun part is you get to choose.

Marner to Arizona for Crouse, Chychrun and Vejmelka

That’s the kinda trade Leafs need to make

TB missed the playoffs 4 times out of 5 after selecting their 1st and 2nd overall. Stamkos and Hedman.

Much betterer than making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round.

Not making the playoffs would have screwed the fan narrative of losing 5 straight 1st rounds though.

No idea why this got deleted. I’ll take out the “loser mentality part”. But regardless the above remains true ^
- Santo_44

https://www.eliteprospect...player/6007/victor-hedman

That doesn't seem to add up

TB missed the playoffs 4 times out of 5 after selecting their 1st and 2nd overall. Stamkos and Hedman.

Much betterer than making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round.

Not making the playoffs would have screwed the fan narrative of losing 5 straight 1st rounds though.

No idea why this got deleted. I’ll take out the “loser mentality part”. But regardless the above remains true ^
- Santo_44

I think when the original post gets deleted all replies get deleted.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/6007/victor-hedman

That doesn't seem to add up
- AdamFrench

Stamkos was 4 of 5

Hedman was 3 of 4

Niether won a playoff game until year 5 and 6 of their careers

edit:okay the playoff one was not true I made a mistake

Anyways the point I am trying to make here is when TB drafted Stamkos and Hedman they were not a competitive team. We can't ignore those seasons simply because they didnt lose all those seasons in the 1st round. If we are looking at this statistically the Leafs are miles ahead of TB when Hedman and Stammer were Matthews and Marner's age.

Looking at TB's season by season you could make a case they had some serious ups and downs to the point that they looked like they were failing Stamkos and Hedman careers.

Marner to Arizona for Crouse, Chychrun and Vejmelka

That’s the kinda trade Leafs need to make
- Slimtj100

no it isnt

I think when the original post gets deleted all replies get deleted.
- bobbyisno1

Could be it, would have been a silly post to delete so you are probably right

How much is Kadri going to cost next year?

Marner to Arizona for Crouse, Chychrun and Vejmelka

That’s the kinda trade Leafs need to make
- Slimtj100

Stolarz and Terry for Marner

How much is Kadri going to cost next year?
- Canada Cup

7 mill and down a center during the playoffs.

How much is Kadri going to cost next year?
- Canada Cup

7.5 on a short, 6.5 on a long?

id offer Gurriel plus the Jays #3-10 ranked prospects for Soto

need more? ok..take more

I don’t think there’s anybody in here who’s not looking for the Leafs to improve next year. So, let’s talk about that. But just mocking anything doesn’t doesn’t involve blowing up the core as being nothing more than “running it back” is getting old.
- Canada Cup

I can agree with that. I've made my thoughts (maybe too) clear on this point. I don't need to anymore. But yeah, they do need to get better. The goaltending is Dubas' biggest job. Who knows how that goes - but man, there are few more significant positions to fill.

7.5 on a short, 6.5 on a long?
- AdamFrench

Naz as 2C with Johnny on the wing would be sweet

I can agree with that. I've made my thoughts (maybe too) clear on this point. I don't need to anymore. But yeah, they do need to get better. The goaltending is Dubas' biggest job. Who knows how that goes - but man, there are few more significant positions to fill.
- fifty__missions

As Dylan said, “those that were out in the first round shall later be first”. He wasn’t clear on how much later

TB missed the playoffs 4 times out of 5 after selecting their 1st and 2nd overall. Stamkos and Hedman.

Much betterer than making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round.

Not making the playoffs would have screwed the fan narrative of losing 5 straight 1st rounds though.

No idea why this got deleted. I’ll take out the “loser mentality part”. But regardless the above remains true ^
- Santo_44

It got deleted for exactly what you deleted out this time - stop instigating and posting that type of thing and posts don't get deleted or worse, I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.

I think when the original post gets deleted all replies get deleted.
- bobbyisno1

Yup.

Could be it, would have been a silly post to delete so you are probably right
- Santo_44

I deleted your post and the next time you chirp about how I'm moderating you can take a vacation.

I deleted your post and the next time you chirp about how I'm moderating you can take a vacation.
- Cush29

You are going to have to show me where I chirped your moderating because I really think you miss understood, I never intended to chirp any moderating today so I'd appreciate you showing me where you saw that.

It got deleted for exactly what you deleted out this time - stop instigating and posting that type of thing and posts don't get deleted or worse, I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.
- Cush29

You deleted it and I re posted it in a better manner. Moving on

Stolarz and Terry for Marner
- bobbyisno1

Tempting... Damn tempting. Stolli was really good this yr on a crazy silly contract.

He and Dostal together are only going to cost total about 2.5 mil...

Troy is really coming into his own.. 37 goals..

But having Mitch would be insane also.. I say yes... but hesitantly...

Tempting... Damn tempting. Stolli was really good this yr on a crazy silly contract.

He and Dostal together are only going to cost total about 2.5 mil...

Troy is really coming into his own.. 37 goals..

But having Mitch would be insane also.. I say yes... but hesitantly...

- dozerD10

Same birth year.


72 games 35 goals 97 points

75 games 37 goals 67 points

year prior a 40 point difference while playing around 50 games

Mitch has accumulated 70 more points in roughly the same amount of games played in the last 2 years. Do you really think this is fair at all? I don't.