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Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
Kevin Francis: The real story behind the Pierre McGuire firing!
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

May 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
Dorion didn't like how McGuire had everyone over to his house for a BBQ not long after being hired to get to know the coaching staff and upper management team.




So why is Dorion still employed? Some sort of succession transition is in progress and the administrator of Melnyk's estate is just keeping things status quo?
Crosside
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.14.2019

May 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
This is the question, why the bog was agree to fired McGuire if he make a good job
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
This is the question, why the bog was agree to fired McGuire if he make a good job
- Crosside



Because Dorion didn't hire him, plain and simple. No GM wants someone that clearly has more hockey knowledge than they have that wasn't brought in my them. Pretty simple. It is like that at any level in any job in upper management. People fearing for their jobs, rather than pulling together to make things great!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 4:34 PM ET


So why is Dorion still employed? Some sort of succession transition is in progress and the administrator of Melnyk's estate is just keeping things status quo?

- Only_A_Ladd


As I mentioned there are other aspects that i just cant write about now that would answer part of what you are asking. Plus lawyers, lawyers, lawyers lol.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

May 18 @ 4:39 PM ET
the sens are so screwed for n4ext year, do not be surprised if Chabot asks for a trade out when the sens are eliminated from the playoffs by mid november
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
Wow.. Straight Fire... An article that makes me appreciate McGuire... Never thought it would happen..
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
Wow.. Straight Fire... An article that makes me appreciate McGuire... Never thought it would happen..
- dozerD10


Flat out, he was fired for doing his job and having too much hockey knowledge. Something any NHL personnel person would tell you is Dorion's problem and the Sens downfall at the same time.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 5:02 PM ET
the sens are so screwed for n4ext year, do not be surprised if Chabot asks for a trade out when the sens are eliminated from the playoffs by mid november
- Mithos


Look, there are few things I cant write that I was told but I was "nice" when talking about Chabot and Brady talking to Dorion. The players are having to hold the GM accountable because nobody else will in the org! Its that pathetic but good on Chabot. I will say this, if this team isn't substantially better this season, you are beyond correct......Chabot will ask for a trade!
PogBoi
Season Ticket Holder
Ottawa Senators
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 08.27.2020

May 18 @ 5:05 PM ET
McGuire should have never been hired in the first place. There's a reason most of his career is on TV. No one wanted to hire him after his fiasco in Hartford... except Ottawa of course.

Dorion is a tool, but imo McGuire would be MUCH worse if he was the GM.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 5:23 PM ET
McGuire should have never been hired in the first place. There's a reason most of his career is on TV. No one wanted to hire him after his fiasco in Hartford... except Ottawa of course.

Dorion is a tool, but imo McGuire would be MUCH worse if he was the GM.

- PogBoi


Fair enough on PM, but the bigger issue is PD and what he's using as leverage in the org to keep his job the way he did.

I had 2 guys who work in the org that said, PM allowed them to have their voice heard for the first time as PD always shut them out.....they said PM made the org so much better and that by firing him they both questioned why they are even in the org. But sometimes a job is a job.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 18 @ 5:24 PM ET
McGuire should have never been hired in the first place. There's a reason most of his career is on TV. No one wanted to hire him after his fiasco in Hartford... except Ottawa of course.

Dorion is a tool, but imo McGuire would be MUCH worse if he was the GM.

- PogBoi



You think a guy that is could drive Chabot to ask for a trade is better than McGuire... that's is crazy talk.. No ??
Sams_Dog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.03.2005

May 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
From the sound of this article the Senators had better figure out what the ownership succession plan is very quick and hire a new GM because this will probably boil over next season, if not sooner. I have no love for Maguire. The guy is obnoxious and I can easily see him angling for Dorion's job behind the scenes. But Dorion definitely seems over his head and could really do damage to the progress of this team which is poised to be a real contender soon. Kind of like Chiarelli did in Edmonton. I'd like to see Ottawa succeed and win a Cup for the fans, especially now that Melnyk is out of the picture.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 5:49 PM ET
You think a guy that is could drive Chabot to ask for a trade is better than McGuire... that's is crazy talk.. No ??
- dozerD10


Sorry what do you mean? If DJ continues his line up mess each night and Dorion does nothing to address a meaningful partner for Chabot, it will drive him to ask for one. He was on Dorion big time about his decisions!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
From the sound of this article the Senators had better figure out what the ownership succession plan is very quick and hire a new GM because this will probably boil over next season, if not sooner. I have no love for Maguire. The guy is obnoxious and I can easily see him angling for Dorion's job behind the scenes. But Dorion definitely seems over his head and could really do damage to the progress of this team which is poised to be a real contender soon. Kind of like Chiarelli did in Edmonton. I'd like to see Ottawa succeed and win a Cup for the fans, especially now that Melnyk is out of the picture.
- Sams_Dog


All fair points and I think most Sens fans would echo your comments. No doubt PM eventually would've angled for the GM job, but PD like you said.....very similar to Chiarelli. I know many people in the org are afraid DJ and PD know their jobs on the line and are truly worried that they make knee jerk decisions affecting things long term.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
One story I was told was how furious PM was with PD when Dorion leaked the Nick Paul contract offer to make himself look good and Paul to look bad for turning it down. As a few TSN1200 on air radio people mentioned, I confirmed it as well, they were 300k apart per year on the deal!

Plus it just goes to show everyone how PD lies to everyone saying they don't negotiate in the media. He does it when it's convenient for him, that's for sure!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 6:06 PM ET
Why did Eugene keep Dorian around? Seems he knew he wasnt good at his job
NC_Scott
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 03.01.2022

May 18 @ 6:08 PM ET
Excellent reporting
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
Sorry what do you mean? If DJ continues his line up mess each night and Dorion does nothing to address a meaningful partner for Chabot, it will drive him to ask for one. He was on Dorion big time about his decisions!
- Kevin Francis


Simply responding to the fellow who thinks Dorian is better than McGuire...
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

May 18 @ 6:19 PM ET
Look, there are few things I cant write that I was told but I was "nice" when talking about Chabot and Brady talking to Dorion. The players are having to hold the GM accountable because nobody else will in the org! Its that pathetic but good on Chabot. I will say this, if this team isn't substantially better this season, you are beyond correct......Chabot will ask for a trade!
- Kevin Francis

do not be surprised if Brady is right behind him, then the team falls apart... Sens are quickly becoming the Coyotes of the north..
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
Why did Eugene keep Dorian around? Seems he knew he wasnt good at his job
- hello it's me 2050


As I mentioned in the piece, when I spoke about PD's pressuring for an extension, once I get the green light to write about it from my sources, I will post another piece on it.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
Excellent reporting
- NC_Scott


Thanks for the kind words, appreciate it!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
Simply responding to the fellow who thinks Dorian is better than McGuire...
- dozerD10


Ah ok, my bad, I see! Ya lets face it, PD is in over his head and in due time PM probably would've angled for the GM job, or when new ownership was in place. PD knew it and like I said, was selfish and made sure PM was gone before new ownership got in place.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
Simply responding to the fellow who thinks Dorian is better than McGuire...
- dozerD10


Ah ok, my bad, I see! Ya lets face it, PD is in over his head and in due time PM probably would've angled for the GM job, or when new ownership was in place. PD knew it and like I said, was selfish and made sure PM was gone before new ownership got in place.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

May 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
do not be surprised if Brady is right behind him, then the team falls apart... Sens are quickly becoming the Coyotes of the north..
- Mithos


Which is why this team needs new ownership. This whole concept of the two daughters running the team, both in their early 20's could end up being worse than having EM run into the ground for the past 5 years plus.
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