If Bergeron retires, will He have one last shower with Cam for old time sake ?

Oh I agree. Bruins should never have signed Foligno. That's on Sweeney, not Cassidy.
- Nasty_Duck

Guerin went hard to sign Foligno so he could play with Marcus. Glad Nick chose the Bruins. Guerin wasted so much time wooing Nick that he missed out on better 3rd pair D men signings.

Cassidy really put Marchand and Bergeron into high gear offensively. i’m sure they like him as their coach.
Once Claude was gone Cassidy really opened things up and allowed these guys to flourish. Leading scorers on Claude’s teams have 50-60pts
- Tachmo

Yeah this is my point though. If sweeney cans cassidy, makes leaves a bad taste in their mouth when they actually like the coach. We will see what happens though. No word yet.

Bruce isn't the problem. The fact that Neely seems to think he is, and Don isn't, is the biggest problem this team has.
- ProvBrewin

Unfortunately paraphrasing Michael Felger here but he is right... If Neely and Sweeney don't like how the Bruins struggle with entering the zone...MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PASSED ON BARZAL 3 (frank)ING TIMES!!!

Unfortunately paraphrasing Michael Felger here but he is right... If Neely and Sweeney don't like how the Bruins struggle with entering the zone...MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PASSED ON BARZAL 3 (frank)ING TIMES!!!
- glove_was_stuck

EDIT: Or try drafting an actual NHL quality center not these (frank)ing lame stiffs like Forsbaka-Karlsson(remember that turd), Frederbust or Bustnicka

EDIT: Or try drafting an actual NHL quality center not these (frank)ing lame stiffs like Forsbaka-Karlsson(remember that turd), Frederbust or Bustnicka
- glove_was_stuck

BUT EDMONTON WAS TOTALLY GOING TO TAKE SENYSHYN!!! And DeBrusk is more of a "character guy that fits the mold". It was more important to have what they wanted and use one of the picks to spurn Chiarelli than to actually draft best player available.

Thats how (frank)ing bad they are.

Unfortunately paraphrasing Michael Felger here but he is right... If Neely and Sweeney don't like how the Bruins struggle with entering the zone...MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PASSED ON BARZAL 3 (frank)ING TIMES!!!
- glove_was_stuck

Lol believe me when I tell you, I would not intentionally paraphrase Felger.

This whole situation is sickening. Botched draft after botched draft, followed by crappy signings year in and year out, and Cassidy is the one on the hot seat? It's asinine. If Donny and his scouting team had done their jobs properly and not drafted as though they were smarter than everyone else, maybe we would have SOMEONE in the (frank)ing pipeline we could be excited about potentially stepping up. Instead, we have a dozen or so bums who will never take the ice in the bigs, and are strapped for cash because we like to sign guys like Foligno and Backes to 15 year deals worth $100 million.

Meanwhile ol Bam Bam Cam is doing his best to cover his own ass by putting it on Cassidy, and re-signing Donny. So when the next coach isn't able to get this hodge podge of a team to succeed, it's time to throw Don under the bus. It's all so obvious, and all so sickening.

NEVER in my life did I think I would utter these words....get Cam the eff out of here.

Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Debrincat Krejci Lysell
Connor Barzal Coyle
Hall Lazar

Chabot McCavoy
Lindholm Carlo
Lauzon Lindgren

Swayman Vladar

Hall X, Forbort X, Nosek X, Foligno X, Ullmark X, Smith X, Gryzlyck (expansion)

Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Debrincat Krejci Lysell
Connor Barzal Coyle
Hall Lazar

Chabot McCavoy
Lindholm Carlo
Lauzon Lindgren

Swayman Vladar

Hall X, Forbort X, Nosek X, Foligno X, Ullmark X, Smith X, Gryzlyck (expansion)
- Tachmo

If only. I would argue they probably wouldnt have neede to trade for Coyle with Barzal in the fold but honestly its really sad to look at what everything could have been if Sweeney and company didnt reach for guys in the draft.

If only. I would argue they probably wouldnt have neede to trade for Coyle with Barzal in the fold but honestly its really sad to look at what everything could have been if Sweeney and company didnt reach for guys in the draft.
- dothedougie

True, Coyle not needed. Plus add into the fold whatever they would have gotten from keeping the 1st in the Nash trade and Backes trade.

Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Debrincat Krejci Lysell
Connor Barzal Coyle
Hall Lazar

Chabot McCavoy
Lindholm Carlo
Lauzon Lindgren

Swayman Vladar

Hall X, Forbort X, Nosek X, Foligno X, Ullmark X, Smith X, Gryzlyck (expansion)
- Tachmo

This team would be over the cap by A LOT

This team would be over the cap by A LOT
- Mahewman

That is probably true, but a snap shot of what could have been if Sweeney executed properly in 2015/2016 draft. They probably don’t go after Lindholm, further stocking the cupboard for years to come with picks.

That is probably true, but a snap shot of what could have been if Sweeney executed properly in 2015/2016 draft. They probably don’t go after Lindholm, further stocking the cupboard for years to come with picks.
- Tachmo

Yes but those are only good in the hands of a competent GM who both listens to and employs intelligent scouts.

Yes but those are only good in the hands of a competent GM who both listens to and employs intelligent scouts.
- glove_was_stuck

Nah, totally gotta be the coach right?

Nah, totally gotta be the coach right?
- dothedougie

Yes, those poor O-zone entries. Really did them in. It's all your fault Brucey.

I wouldn't be surprised if our boneheaded management figures out a way to sign Giroux to a 5 year $30M contract...it would fit the MO (sign old "stars" to contracts that are WAY too long at WAY too much money).

I wouldn't be surprised if our boneheaded management figures out a way to sign Giroux to a 5 year $30M contract...it would fit the MO (sign old "stars" to contracts that are WAY too long at WAY too much money).
- bluemoon737

Or give a 5 year, 45m dollar contract to Kadri. Donny is gonna spend some money if Bergy retires.

I wouldn't be surprised if our boneheaded management figures out a way to sign Giroux to a 5 year $30M contract...it would fit the MO (sign old "stars" to contracts that are WAY too long at WAY too much money).
- bluemoon737

Honestly, I could see them targeting Kadri before Giroux but i dont see either happening. Giroux also rejected a trade to the Bruins so he isn't coming here.

Hopefully Patrice is back but if not i would target Bo Horvat in a trade. He will at least fill the gap until they can get some centers in the system.

Or, you stick Studnicka/Beecher with Marchand and Pasta and you leave one of them there. See what happens. If you want to develop a center. Put him with Marchand now and have him focus on defense and faceoffs. The offense will come with those two. Debrusks game flourished with Marchand

Or give a 5 year, 45m dollar contract to Kadri. Donny is gonna spend some money if Bergy retires.
- dothedougie

9M for Kadri is puke inducing but could you imagine how much hate a line of Marchand and Kadri would get LOL.

9M for Kadri is puke inducing but could you imagine how much hate a line of Marchand and Kadri would get LOL.
- Mahewman

I said it before and I will say it again. If we sign kadri, immediately trade for Tom Wilson and put them all on a line. If you're gonna do something stupid, do it big.


Of course, all of this is assuming Sweeney clears some space first. Not much room at the moment for any moves

Honestly, I could see them targeting Kadri before Giroux but i dont see either happening. Giroux also rejected a trade to the Bruins so he isn't coming here.

Hopefully Patrice is back but if not i would target Bo Horvat in a trade. He will at least fill the gap until they can get some centers in the system.

Or, you stick Studnicka/Beecher with Marchand and Pasta and you leave one of them there. See what happens. If you want to develop a center. Put him with Marchand now and have him focus on defense and faceoffs. The offense will come with those two. Debrusks game flourished with Marchand
- Mahewman

I know there is a lot of hate around here towards Stud, but frankly he has never been given a chance to play his "proper" position of 1/2C. Put him there with Marchy and even Debrusk if he's still around and let them play for a while (not just one game or worse yet, not even a game). This is of course assuming Bergy doesn't come back.

I know there is a lot of hate around here towards Stud, but frankly he has never been given a chance to play his "proper" position of 1/2C. Put him there with Marchy and even Debrusk if he's still around and let them play for a while (not just one game or worse yet, not even a game). This is of course assuming Bergy doesn't come back.
- bluemoon737

Going to disagree. I believe Studs got his looks early in the year and it was determined that as a center he wasn't driving play and he was more of a passenger. After the preseason, his play completely disappeared.

Having said that, sign him to a 1 year low value contract to prove it. Give him 15-20 games with the first or second line. If nothing comes of it, bury him or trade him and that will be the end of it.

Going to disagree. I believe Studs got his looks early in the year and it was determined that as a center he wasn't driving play and he was more of a passenger. After the preseason, his play completely disappeared.

Having said that, sign him to a 1 year low value contract to prove it. Give him 15-20 games with the first or second line. If nothing comes of it, bury him or trade him and that will be the end of it.
- dothedougie

During the regular season Stud got looks on the wing top 6 or 3C/4C. He played 1C/2C during preseason and did well. Butch even said he might be an option at 2C to start the season...that never happened because they tried shoehorning Coyle there instead.

That is one thing about Butch...very similar to Julien, they both gave/give youngsters (some obvious exceptions) VERY short leashes and not much in the way of actual opportunity to try a get their feet under them.

During the regular season Stud got looks on the wing top 6 or 3C/4C. He played 1C/2C during preseason and did well. Butch even said he might be an option at 2C to start the season...that never happened because they tried shoehorning Coyle there instead.

That is one thing about Butch...very similar to Julien, they both gave/give youngsters (some obvious exceptions) VERY short leashes and not much in the way of actual opportunity to try a get their feet under them.
- bluemoon737

I think 15-20 games next season is enough of a look to determine if you're getting anything. I'm not expecting him to dazzle. But the way the roster is shaping up for next year I would be happy for any unexpected surprises.

If he is a ghost, then bury him or sell him for futures and try another young player. Time to let all of the wonderful Sweeney drafting bear fruit and start giving them playing time to see who sticks (if any).

I think 15-20 games next season is enough of a look to determine if you're getting anything. I'm not expecting him to dazzle. But the way the roster is shaping up for next year I would be happy for any unexpected surprises.

If he is a ghost, then bury him or sell him for futures and try another young player. Time to let all of the wonderful Sweeney drafting bear fruit and start giving them playing time to see who sticks (if any).
- dothedougie

Sounds like a plan...hopefully Bergy throws a wrench in the works of that plan.
Even if Bergy returns, put Stud between Hall and Pasta for at least 10 games and see how it goes...if nothing promising, cut bait.
Now if you can move Stud as part of a package for a bonafide 1C/2C then go for it!