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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

May 21 @ 4:15 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Flames Special Teams Allow Rally — Steve Kozari’s “Game Management”
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

May 21 @ 6:19 AM ET
It’s always been obvious that you are a homer, but this is getting ridiculous. McDavid. That is the story of the game. The way he is playing was the difference. Great game, this could take 7 to decide. On a side note, these late games suck for us who have to work the next day. I’m very tired.
Donovan
Calgary Flames
Location: Princeton, ON
Joined: 09.20.2015

May 21 @ 7:05 AM ET
pretty sure I got 2 hours of sleep, I am still holding for 6 games and flames to win. The reffing was in question for sure but thats not here or there, the flames were pretty flat from 3-1 for about 30 minutes or so, the called back goals were right on both sides, even the interference believe it or not, so I would not say the reffing was out of control.

Markstrom kinda had another off night, he did some good saving yes but the breakaways both getting past him I find hard to believe, the flames 6 on 4 and not scoring another spot they should have had something.

The flames were just down 2-1 to dallas and sadly might happen again then win anyway!
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 21 @ 8:00 AM ET
3rd, and suck it long and hard 1230 and JB.

WTF is up with this series? I expected 1 or 2 high scoring games then things went sideways.... Not the first 2 games. And not to this extent. And I did not expect CMD to go this supernova. Clamp McDavid down somehow and its easily a Flames series. But can he be clamped down?
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
Flames definitely lost the momentum on all those penalties. It was a garbage reffed game but the skill of McDavid/Draisaitl is incredible. If I'm Calgary, I'm calling whoever to get that officiating crew taken off this series. It's playoffs, face washes aren't penalties. Crosschecks where you break a stick on the other player are. Guess he did eventually give Nurse that crosschecking penalty with zeros left on the clock to make it look close in PPs.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Thanks Trevor!!!!

Garbage game by the refs but the boys gotta find ways win. You could tell they were frustrated.

The oilers game Is to make Calgary’s strength a weakness. Calgary is a big team that is not going to back down when challenged in a scrum. The Oilers are more than happy to 4 on 4 where McDavid is lethal.

Hopefully they change the refs.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Well at least 97 is putting to rest the silly Leaf fan argument on who the best player around is..

Oh and good luck with him the rest of the series...
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

May 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Well at least 97 is putting to rest the silly Leaf fan argument on who the best player around is..

Oh and good luck with him the rest of the series...

- dozerD10


Best player in the world some how got better. It is an amazing thing to watch.

Great series. Flames in 6 or McDavid in 7.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

May 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
3rd, and suck it long and hard 1230 and JB.

WTF is up with this series? I expected 1 or 2 high scoring games then things went sideways.... Not the first 2 games. And not to this extent. And I did not expect CMD to go this supernova. Clamp McDavid down somehow and its easily a Flames series. But can he be clamped down?

- wreckage


Maybe somebody should clamp down your mouth.
henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
Is this The Leafs thread, Refs called 20 PIM Oil, 22 Flames or are you talking ticky tacky stuff ?
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 21 @ 3:47 PM ET
the called back goals were right on both sides,
- Donovan


How can you say that? He blew the whistle way too early because he lost sight of the puck because he was out of position. 100% referee error on both calls. It's always amazing how often weird things like that end up happening to both teams in the same game.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

May 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Is this The Leafs thread, Refs called 20 PIM Oil, 22 Flames or are you talking ticky tacky stuff ?
- henny1953

Really! What a bunch of crybaby bullpoop.
MABster
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 10.02.2006

May 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
The reffing was one sided-- apparently if you fall down from a crosscheck from behind (and away from the play, no less) then it isn't gravity. It's "embellishment" and an off-setting penalty.

That said, the Flames didn't have the killer instinct and looked lost at times in the third. Time to start Vladar?
Fan the Flame
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 03.06.2022

May 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
Well done Trevor.

For years I have watched Steve Kozari single handedly ruin many many Flames hockey games.
The funny thing is it always seemed contrived.... boarder line calls at critical times and always against the Flames.
I would wonder... is this guy not answerable to anyone, and if so, who sets the standard?
Your info on him is cathartic for me and makes me even more want to beg the question, who or what is this guy being held accountable to.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

May 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
Well done Trevor.

For years I have watched Steve Kozari single handedly ruin many many Flames hockey games.
The funny thing is it always seemed contrived.... boarder line calls at critical times and always against the Flames.
I would wonder... is this guy not answerable to anyone, and if so, who sets the standard?
Your info on him is cathartic for me and makes me even more want to beg the question, who or what is this guy being held accountable to.

- Fan the Flame


I appreciate that! You’re definitely not alone.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

May 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
I appreciate that! You’re definitely not alone.
- Trevor_Neufeld_

Every city has fans that think they got fuc ked by a ref. Because every team gets fuc ked by a ref. It’s not a Calgary thing. Relax. The flames will do a better job staying out of the box just like the last series.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

May 21 @ 10:26 PM ET
The more nervous the Flames fans get, the more attention they put on the topic of officiating. Start assembling an excuse now boys, this may not end well for y’all.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

May 22 @ 12:13 AM ET
Every city has fans that think they got fuc ked by a ref. Because every team gets fuc ked by a ref. It’s not a Calgary thing. Relax. The flames will do a better job staying out of the box just like the last series.
- doon

I don't know if you guys had these two bozos reffing any in round one. I saw some games where the penalty call was down and it was great hockey. This game, not so much. It started well before the Bouchard check, though. They showed the replay of the Keith goal, and in it showed McDavid with his glove clearly holdin a Flames D's stick. Not just holding it, but dragging the player with him. Is it any wonder that he had to make a one handed pass to Keith? Both refs watching the sequence, but nothing. Whatever. Missed call, I guess.

The other one that I could not figure out was the highsticking double minor. Stick at waist level and somehow contacts Yamamoto in the face? I know he is short, but how is waist height high sticking? Considering that it was tied up with the Oilers D, and Yammer skates into it almost on his knees, how do you call it? Wasn't a folow through.

The rest of the calls were crap, with a lot of emphasis on picking three guys out of some normal post whistle stuff, to which there was no usual warning. Take away the 4v4, 5v4 and the 4v5 goals from both teams and it's a 2-2 game. Who wants a poorly called game to shrt change fans from exciting, well fought hockey. Take that crap and go ref an IIHF game. This is playoffs, not Kindergarden.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

May 22 @ 12:20 AM ET
The more nervous the Flames fans get, the more attention they put on the topic of officiating. Start assembling an excuse now boys, this may not end well for y’all.
- HonkyTonkMan

The Oilers excuses were already known prior to the game; Draisaitl high-ankle strain, Nurse core muscle tear. Barrie sick on game day. Smith even used the old "I hurt something, need a minute, hang head" routine. Most teams don't breathe a word about injuries during the playoffs unless a player misses a game, then it's LBI or UBI. Somehow, the Oilers have such an inept medical staff that they "leak" stories about crushing injuries. Was that a ruse in case they lost two in a row?
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

May 22 @ 2:52 AM ET
I don't know if you guys had these two bozos reffing any in round one. I saw some games where the penalty call was down and it was great hockey. This game, not so much. It started well before the Bouchard check, though. They showed the replay of the Keith goal, and in it showed McDavid with his glove clearly holdin a Flames D's stick. Not just holding it, but dragging the player with him. Is it any wonder that he had to make a one handed pass to Keith? Both refs watching the sequence, but nothing. Whatever. Missed call, I guess.

The other one that I could not figure out was the highsticking double minor. Stick at waist level and somehow contacts Yamamoto in the face? I know he is short, but how is waist height high sticking? Considering that it was tied up with the Oilers D, and Yammer skates into it almost on his knees, how do you call it? Wasn't a folow through.

The rest of the calls were crap, with a lot of emphasis on picking three guys out of some normal post whistle stuff, to which there was no usual warning. Take away the 4v4, 5v4 and the 4v5 goals from both teams and it's a 2-2 game. Who wants a poorly called game to shrt change fans from exciting, well fought hockey. Take that crap and go ref an IIHF game. This is playoffs, not Kindergarden.

- Traveldude


Well said.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

May 22 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yeah, that’s it. Fake injuries made up by Management. I’ve heard it all now.
Thing is, I’m talking about you guys. The better team will win this series, homegrown that is, but you guys ALWAYS have an excuse.
Slappywaggle
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.20.2013

May 22 @ 10:04 AM ET
That's a lot of moaning and complaining about Kozari from a Flames standpoint. Do you think he's any better for the Oilers? No. He's garbage. He's not out to get the Flames. Just come on. He's equally as bad for Edmonton. So why don't you just drop it. We also hope him and Chris Lee never officiate another Oilers game.
Papshady
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.02.2017

May 22 @ 10:40 AM ET
Any true fan of hockey is going to put their team bias aside and ask themselves, is playoff hockey 5 called penalties in a row with the caveat of "dont worry, the next 4 will be on them?" Honestly, been watching hockey for almost 40 years and that is not playoff hockey and should never be. its one thing to have a high penalty filled game in the playoffs but those games usually have fights, altercations after the whistle that even things up. I dont want to ever see 3 players pulled out of a playoff scrum unless there was an intent to injure.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
The other one that I could not figure out was the highsticking double minor. Stick at waist level and somehow contacts Yamamoto in the face? I know he is short, but how is waist height high sticking? Considering that it was tied up with the Oilers D, and Yammer skates into it almost on his knees, how do you call it? Wasn't a folow through.

- Traveldude


Complaining about the refs is always embarassing, especially when you don't know the rules. They showed the replay 30 times, and they reviewed it. It's a textbook definition of the penalty. His stick hit him in the face. His face is above his shoulders. What's to complain about? Why are you even mentioning a follow through? There was no shot. It's not a penalty if you're shooting and you make contact on the follow through.

Refs can be bad and horrendous at their job, but the idea that they're biased over the course of multiple games is ludicrous.
Fan the Flame
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 03.06.2022

May 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
Any true fan of hockey is going to put their team bias aside and ask themselves, is playoff hockey 5 called penalties in a row with the caveat of "dont worry, the next 4 will be on them?" Honestly, been watching hockey for almost 40 years and that is not playoff hockey and should never be. its one thing to have a high penalty filled game in the playoffs but those games usually have fights, altercations after the whistle that even things up. I dont want to ever see 3 players pulled out of a playoff scrum unless there was an intent to injure.
- Papshady


Very well said. As an old timer myself, having played and watched for some 60 years I can tell you, that you are 100% right. This is NOT playoff hockey and old timers like Gordie Howe and Brian Trottier would be embarrassed to call it such.
Try crashing Billy Smiths' goal crease during the Islanders' 4 Cup run and then have a talk about what is playoff hockey.
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