Thanks for the reminder never to read anything from Canucks Army again.
- Marwood

Yeah, Canuck Army is a complete waste of time.

Benning hits a home run in the draft and trades it for a single. Adam Clendening.

Would have made the trade for OEL even less necessary.

We traded one year of cap hell and a 1st to try and save JB's job which lasted all of a few months.

It's scary that a management team that is lauded for scouting could trade a good defensive prospect, especially when the cupboard is bare for essentially nothing. Oh right, it made the team marginally better at the time.

Let's hope we escape that mindset moving forward unless we're a top 5ish team at the deadline.
- golfingsince

Don't count on it.

Don't count on it.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It's one thing to see things as a fan.


When you are being paid millions of dollars to run a hockey team you may want to actually watch the players in your system. I don't care if it's video. Most people that make that kind of money work 60+ hours a week.

Yeah, Canuck Army is a complete waste of time.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I go there for a laugh. Always fun listening to analytic types
tell you how some stat is a fact, then listen to them backtrack, when they realize the fact that the stat was flawed and isn't anywhere near being factual.

I go there for a laugh. Always fun listening to analytic types
tell you how some stat is a fact, then listen to them backtrack, when they realize the fact that the stat was flawed and isn't anywhere near being factual.
- Reubenkincade

I like to go there to hear stat deniers spout off about how a stat isn’t the truth, when they really don’t understand what a statistic is, or how it’s useful.

I like to go there to hear stat deniers spout off about how a stat isn’t the truth, when they really don’t understand what a statistic is, or how it’s useful.
- 1970vintage

Like a lamppost, for support not illumination.

I like to go there to hear stat deniers spout off about how a stat isn’t the truth, when they really don’t understand what a statistic is, or how it’s useful.
- 1970vintage

Ya, always fun listening to those ones as well, not as fun as listening to the stat guys who deny benefits of some pretty basic and justifiable stats though.

Like a lamppost, for support not illumination.
- golfingsince

Well said.

Yeah, Canuck Army is a complete waste of time.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Mostly yes some are actually ok but it is rare lol

Ya, always fun listening to those ones as well, not as fun as listening to the stat guys who deny benefits of some pretty basic and justifiable stats though.
- Reubenkincade

If they add the eye test for more credibility it would give more substance. Puking out stats isn’t enough cuz any nerd can produce stats. Lastly circumstances are not easily defined to the degree I find analytics to be anything more than a guide or tendencies. So much more goes into a players results.

A player like Petey recovering from injury & no camp has a HUGE bearing on stats good or bad.

Any stat out there for that?

Any stat out there that coaching influence?

Any stat out there that includes TOI changing rhythms due to PP’s & PK’s?

Or goalies when hot & cold during a game?

Or 1 bad bounce off the boards or glass?

Mack on fire killing my bracket lol

Mack on fire killing my bracket lol
- Nighthawk

Reuby's as well.

Reuby's as well.
- Load Management

I have Calgary StL TB & Carolina left.

Like a lamppost, for support not illumination.
- golfingsince

Yeah, all they tell you is what’s likely. I use statistics every day, and for the most part, they’re pretty reliable. I’m sure it’s the same in your business. In restaurants, if you serve an average of 200 people on Monday’s over the past 8 weeks, next Monday it’s likely you’ll see about 200 people. Sure, the weather could be crap an you only do 130, or there could be a grad ceremony that day and you end up seeing 350, but if you aren’t paying attention to those other variables you probably won’t be in business long.

In hockey, if your goalie has a .923 save % you can expect that in the next game he’ll likely make 9 saves for every 10 shots, unless he’s Mike Smith or Jacob Markstrom, in which case you have no clue what you’re going to get.

Ya, always fun listening to those ones as well, not as fun as listening to the stat guys who deny benefits of some pretty basic and justifiable stats though.
- Reubenkincade

Ah, the ol +/-

Ah, the ol +/-


- 1970vintage

I love this stat. It requires decent knowledge and the eye test.

I love this stat. It requires decent knowledge and the eye test.
- Load Management

Every hockey player I’ve ever played with, or talked with takes pride in being a +.

Edit- or shame in being a -

Anyone send out a search party for K-man? Worried about his mental health dealing with a near sweep of his Flames by the Oilers

Every hockey player I’ve ever played with, or talked with takes pride in being a +.

Edit- or shame in being a -
- 1970vintage

I am still waiting for the day when after a big playoff win, a player says he isn't sure if the team played well or not, because he hasn't been able to hear from the analytics crew yet.

Reuby's as well.
- Load Management

I was pretty much done after the 1st round.

Bit of over reaction from Kadri there

I was pretty much done after the 1st round.
- Reubenkincade

Not surprised, you really struggle understanding the game ……..

Bit of over reaction from Kadri there
- 1970vintage

Hard sell