better than felating over him.

Flyers one of the best jobs you said.
- hello it's me 2050

That is correct!

A number of things here. First of all, Toronto would never make that move. Second of all, you're insane for not wanting to make that move if it was available. You talk about wanting elite players, now you want to see what they got. Are you not aware now that they don't have elite players? Who the coach is would be irrelevant in that hypothetical.
- MJL

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.
- jd250

Man you crazy.

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.
- jd250

Marner would have no trouble getting points on Philly. He is a top tier player. He is the type of player we need and the type of player who has the skill to produce no matter the linemates.

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.
- jd250

Marner is a top 10 forward in the entire NHL.

When was the interview with Trotz? Did it even happen yet?

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.
- jd250

You're embarrassing yourself. Every day you disqualify yourself more and more. Last season on a bad team, with both having subpar years with inconsistency. Atkinson scored 50 points and Konecny 52. However you state that one of the top elite offensive forwards in the league would be lucky to get 60 points.

Honestly, maybe take up checkers or chess. Hockey is not the sport for you.

You're embarrassing yourself. Every day you disqualify yourself more and more. Last season on a bad team, with both having subpar years with inconsistency. Atkinson scored 50 points and Konecny 52. However you state that one of the top elite offensive forwards in the league would be lucky to get 60 points.

Honestly, maybe take up checkers or chess. Hockey is not the sport for you.
- MJL

McDavid's shadow would score 60 points with the Flyers, how much would it cost to get that?

Surprised we aren't talking about what it would take to get MatthewTkachuk and what he would cost cap wise on his next contract.
- TheFreak

Whatever it is he will be grossly overpaid

Yes, I know and agree the Flyers do not have elite players. What I am saying here is I don't believe Marner is more of a product of who he plays with. If you put Marner on the Flyers right now, I think you would be lucky to get 60 points from him.
- jd250

This might be your most ridiculous comment yet

Whatever it is he will be grossly overpaid
- ClaudeFather

A 40 goal 100 point forward is worth 11M

A 40 goal 100 point forward is worth 11M
- MJL

He’s a good player, but he’s not an 11M player. One 40 goal 100 point season means he will continue to put up the same numbers?

Read an article the other day outlining a proposed trade between the Flyers and Leafs: Marner for Hart/TK. Would you do it? I thought about it and I would not do it and here is why, I am not sold on Mitch Marner. Yes he is coming off career highs in goals and points, however how much of that is from playing with Matthews and being part of a PP with Nylander, Matthews, O'Reilly and Tavares? Plus the Flyers would have to pay Marner $10.9M for 3 more years. I really don't think the Flyers are in any position to throw that type of money at any player right now until they can get a good coach in here and see what they actually got.
- jd250

This whole statement shows why philly will never change. The team knows there’s ALOT of fans out there that are stupid enough to think this way.

1) tk blows. He’s not worth what he gets paid now

2) hart is NOT an elite goalie. He CAN be a slightly better than average goalie. Which yes you can win with

3 marner is a top 10 forward in this league. You not being sold on him shows the stupidity as you you wouldn’t trade a hart/tk in a package.

4) is a deal hypothetically we’re involving marner to philly and hart/tk we’re player package in deal guess what… philly would be adding probably at least two 1’st rounders to the package.

5) you not understanding that shows just how koolaid fan you are and team counts on.

This whole statement shows why philly will never change. The team knows there’s ALOT of fans out there that are stupid enough to think this way.

1) tk blows. He’s not worth what he gets paid now

2) hart is NOT an elite goalie. He CAN be a slightly better than average goalie. Which yes you can win with

3 marner is a top 10 forward in this league. You not being sold on him shows the stupidity as you you wouldn’t trade a hart/tk in a package.

4) is a deal hypothetically we’re involving marner to philly and hart/tk we’re player package in deal guess what… philly would be adding probably at least two 1’st rounders to the package.

5) you not understanding that shows just how koolaid fan you are and team counts on.
- Stayin alive

He was the Leafs best player in the playoffs by a landslide. If you watched those games and wouldn’t trade Hart and TK for Marner, just stop watching hockey.

He’s a good player, but he’s not an 11M player. One 40 goal 100 point season means he will continue to put up the same numbers?
- ClaudeFather

Agreed. He’s probably a 30-35 goal scorer and around 90 point player with intangibles. Should be around 9 mil per maybe 10 at most. And that’s paying for ufa years. Although I’ll admit if philly had to pay 11 per to get him I wouldn’t care. At least it’s for top end talent which is always easy to swallow paying more for compared to poopty risto types

Agreed. He’s probably a 30-35 goal scorer and around 90 point player with intangibles. Should be around 9 mil per maybe 10 at most. And that’s paying for ufa years. Although I’ll admit if philly had to pay 11 per to get him I wouldn’t care. At least it’s for top end talent which is always easy to swallow paying more for compared to poopty risto types
- Stayin alive

Go look at the guys making $11M, there’s guys that absolutely deserve it and then horrible horrible contracts. Tavares being one of them. I don’t think Ktachuk would be horrible but that’s quite an overpayment. He’s probably like you said, a 30-35 goal guy that’s between 75-85 points. Great player but he should not be making $11M. Look at his play in the Oilers series, he was horrible.

Read an article the other day outlining a proposed trade between the Flyers and Leafs: Marner for Hart/TK. Would you do it? I thought about it and I would not do it and here is why, I am not sold on Mitch Marner. Yes he is coming off career highs in goals and points, however how much of that is from playing with Matthews and being part of a PP with Nylander, Matthews, O'Reilly and Tavares? Plus the Flyers would have to pay Marner $10.9M for 3 more years. I really don't think the Flyers are in any position to throw that type of money at any player right now until they can get a good coach in here and see what they actually got.
- jd250

you take that and absolutely run. use whatever terminology you want regarding the elite/front line/top level talent stuff you guys pine for, but thats it. those guys simply dont get traded at that age.

i could never see toronto seriously considering that. Marner would advance your rebuild/retool whatever you want to call it immensely. you could still be in asset acquisition mode and hes young enough to be elite/front line for you on the other side.

He’s a good player, but he’s not an 11M player. One 40 goal 100 point season means he will continue to put up the same numbers?
- ClaudeFather

There is never a guarantee that a player will put up the same numbers. However when you put up those numbers as an RFA, that's what your potential worth is.

Go look at the guys making $11M, there’s guys that absolutely deserve it and then horrible horrible contracts. Tavares being one of them. I don’t think Ktachuk would be horrible but that’s quite an overpayment. He’s probably like you said, a 30-35 goal guy that’s between 75-85 points. Great player but he should not be making $11M. Look at his play in the Oilers series, he was horrible.
- ClaudeFather

There's a long list of really good players who have had a bad playoff series. Have to look at contracts properly. If you want Tkachuk to sign an 8 year deal, well then you have to pay for those UFA years. Hoping he becomes a bargain down the road. You can gamble and sign a shorter deal for a lower AAV that takes him to UFA status. Then you run the risk of it costing even more if his level of play stays there.

you take that and absolutely run. use whatever terminology you want regarding the elite/front line/top level talent stuff you guys pine for, but thats it. those guys simply dont get traded at that age.

i could never see toronto seriously considering that. Marner would advance your rebuild/retool whatever you want to call it immensely. you could still be in asset acquisition mode and hes young enough to be elite/front line for you on the other side.
- stayinthefnnet

That's the biggest point. Whoever suggested the deal in the first place is a moron.

Marner would have no trouble getting points on Philly. He is a top tier player. He is the type of player we need and the type of player who has the skill to produce no matter the linemates.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Marner is a player I don’t even tease myself into believing will ever move in our direction. He’s hands down one of the best wingers in the league today.

He’s had 2 disc surgeries as well. Cooked is probably an apt description.
- Minnyhock

He is cooked to perfection. Just the perfect player fro us. He can join Allison in the PT.

you take that and absolutely run. use whatever terminology you want regarding the elite/front line/top level talent stuff you guys pine for, but thats it. those guys simply dont get traded at that age.

i could never see toronto seriously considering that. Marner would advance your rebuild/retool whatever you want to call it immensely. you could still be in asset acquisition mode and hes young enough to be elite/front line for you on the other side.
- stayinthefnnet

Meaning make him the cornerstone of a rebuild? There is only 1 team I can think of in the last 20 years who has won cup and had their best player/cornerstone be a winger (AO). Add in the contract and the stage of our rebuild and I would say yeah, lets do it, because if TK and Hart both go and that much money is tied up in 1 player, the net effect would be a downward drag in standings, which is great.

Meaning make him the cornerstone of a rebuild? There is only 1 team I can think of in the last 20 years who has won cup and had their best player/cornerstone be a winger (AO). Add in the contract and the stage of our rebuild and I would say yeah, lets do it, because if TK and Hart both go and that much money is tied up in 1 player, the net effect would be a downward drag in standings, which is great.
- PT21

I disagree. If they can get some better health next season and get an adequate replacement for Hart. The Flyers would move up in the standings with Marner. Not down.

Meaning make him the cornerstone of a rebuild? There is only 1 team I can think of in the last 20 years who has won cup and had their best player/cornerstone be a winger (AO). Add in the contract and the stage of our rebuild and I would say yeah, lets do it, because if TK and Hart both go and that much money is tied up in 1 player, the net effect would be a downward drag in standings, which is great.
- PT21

i agree in your overall goal of taking a step back to ultimately take two steps forward. i understand the risk that i think marner would potentially cause that by being really good. however, i think the benefit of injecting a premier talent that young regardless of position is worth it there. (unless im drastically undershooting marners age).