They should be able to get more than that … just as Manson & Lindholm have benefited from playing with better guys so would Gibson.
- dozerD10

They might get more from a stupid GM. Plenty of those. Unfortunately for you guys, cap space is so tight that most GMs can't be as risky as they would want.

They might get more from a stupid GM. Plenty of those. Unfortunately for you guys, cap space is so tight that most GMs can't be as risky as they would want.
- jfkst1

That’s a fact. Going to be very interesting at the draft.

I'd do it. Comtois is another player who could probably benefit from a change of scenery. Fortunately, Zucker only has one year left on that abomination of a contract and the Ducks need to get to the cap floor. This works!
- duxcup07

Hurray!!

[quote=duxcup07]Exactly! Anaheim probably isn't going to start winning regularly for another year

Yeah but if Klang or Dostal don't become #1 starters. Then you risk going 3, 4, or 5 years without becoming a contender. Basically we'd be in the same situation the Oilers and Flames have been for almost a decade. Having good fowards but no good goaltenders.

[quote=duxcup07]Exactly! Anaheim probably isn't going to start winning regularly for another year

Yeah but if Klang or Dostal don't become #1 starters. Then you risk going 3, 4, or 5 years without becoming a contender. Basically we'd be in the same situation the Oilers and Flames have been for almost a decade. Having good fowards but no good goaltenders.
- Eman87654

One thing we have is good to very good goalies- Dostal is the real deal… Stolli is more than fine for stopgap this yr -

Trade JG - plenty of teams could bite. Tighten up the D with a couple FA adds and or trades, growth from Drysdale along with better Forwards and we continue the upward trajectory-

Gibson was carrying the Ducks on his shoulders a lot of nights - 2.5 and .920 on a team that lived in their own end and could barely spell D - when he went down with Covid in early January. He was out for almost two weeks. His first two games back he gave up one goal to Tampa and one to the Avs and had SportsCenter highlight saves in both games. Then the wheels fell off.

Ducks were still in playoff contention when he went out, and went 1-4 while he was gone. My personal view is the coaching staff leaned on him too hard trying to save the season when he came off the Covid list, and things went sideways from there. His trade value now is low. Best course for the Ducks would be to let him re-establish his value this fall and then decide about his future with the team unless someone blows them away with an offer now.

The Ducks have a couple young goalies with lots of potential, but no one ready to force their way onto the roster in September and make Gibson expendable. They would need a serviceable NHL goalie as part of the return for Gibson.

One thing we have is good to very good goalies- Dostal is the real deal… Stolli is more than fine for stopgap this yr -

Trade JG - plenty of teams could bite. Tighten up the D with a couple FA adds and or trades, growth from Drysdale along with better Forwards and we continue the upward trajectory-

- dozerD10

Dostal had 2 starts last year. He was OK. I don't think he's better than Gibson. John Alhers said he reminded him if Jonos Hiller. Seems like a pretty good comparison.
And all those teams that want Gibson. They don't give up a good prospect and 2 first round picks. So it's not worth it. I mean Darcey Kemper Got a low first, and good dman, and a conditional 3rd pick. And Gibbys worth way more.

Trading Gibson in this offseason seems like a mistake. A "sell low" proposition. Let him get some games under his belt and see where things are at the trade deadline. I don't see a lot of teams clamoring for him at 5yrs/6.4mm AAV. PLUS the Ducks are 17mm under the floor right now with not too many contracts to sign.

Trading Gibson in this offseason seems like a mistake. A "sell low" proposition. Let him get some games under his belt and see where things are at the trade deadline. I don't see a lot of teams clamoring for him at 5yrs/6.4mm AAV. PLUS the Ducks are 17mm under the floor right now with not too many contracts to sign.
- Only_A_Ladd

If not traded at the draft, this is the scenario I see playing out.

[quote=duxcup07]Exactly! Anaheim probably isn't going to start winning regularly for another year

Yeah but if Klang or Dostal don't become #1 starters. Then you risk going 3, 4, or 5 years without becoming a contender. Basically we'd be in the same situation the Oilers and Flames have been for almost a decade. Having good fowards but no good goaltenders.
- Eman87654

I try not to get into the if if if world. Trade Gibson to say... a team that has superstars and could use a serious upgrade in net... There might even be one still playing now... Who cares about trading in division..

I try not to get into the if if if world. Trade Gibson to say... a team that has superstars and could use a serious upgrade in net... There might even be one still playing now... Who cares about trading in division..

- dozerD10

Well. I'm a iffy kind of person. Although a more rational person just calls it " thinking ahead". But for some reason dozer you seem want to gamble the future on the Ducks. Why's that. Making a unnecessary risky move like trading Gibson doesn't have much upside. All risk and little reward. Maybe wait 2 or 3 years to see how Dostal and Clang develop before giving them the starting job.

Well. I'm a iffy kind of person

. Although a more rational person just calls it " thinking ahead". But for some reason dozer you seem want to gamble the future on the Ducks. Why's that. Making a unnecessary risky move like trading Gibson doesn't have much upside. All risk and little reward. Maybe wait 2 or 3 years to see how Dostal and Clang develop before giving them the starting job.
- Eman87654

Stolli & Dostal or a stop gap if you think Dostal isn’t quite ready… with the 2nd half tank job from JG it’s just time to move on. He basically sunk us solo. Trade him get what you can and move on. His time here has run it’s course… at least I hope it has.

Stolli & Dostal or a stop gap if you think Dostal isn’t quite ready… with the 2nd half tank job from JG it’s just time to move on. He basically sunk us solo. Trade him get what you can and move on. His time here has run it’s course… at least I hope it has.
- dozerD10

Or. We keep Gibby and improve our chances of winning a Stanley Cup and eventually Gibson becomes the best Ducks Goaltender of all time. So I prefer my "Glass's half full" version. Trading Gibby on a discount just because you don't like him is a good business strategy.

Or. We keep Gibby and improve our chances of winning a Stanley Cup and eventually Gibson becomes the best Ducks Goaltender of all time. So I prefer my "Glass's half full" version. Trading Gibby on a discount just because you don't like him is a good business strategy.
- Eman87654

He's been declining for the past 3 yrs.. I'm of the Belechik thought mode.. get out a yr or 2 early rather than wait.. Lots of chatter already how he's overrated as is...

Get what you can and move onto other fixes available. If we aren't going to be as good as most pundits think.. me not of that mindset.. what's the harm of adding more picks and or prospects and letting a Stolli / vet / Dostal roll in net..

I personally think we are going to be in the mix for a spot at the dance.. with Z and McTavish patrolling the middle and a few adds... watch out.

He's been declining for the past 3 yrs.. I'm of the Belechik thought mode.. get out a yr or 2 early rather than wait.. Lots of chatter already how he's overrated as is...

Get what you can and move onto other fixes available. If we aren't going to be as good as most pundits think.. me not of that mindset.. what's the harm of adding more picks and or prospects and letting a Stolli / vet / Dostal roll in net..

I personally think we are going to be in the mix for a spot at the dance.. with Z and McTavish patrolling the middle and a few adds... watch out.

- dozerD10

Manly I think our differences in this situation come from our way of thinking of goaltending. In my opinion Gibson isn't washed up. Now I have a facts supporting this opinion. Like the fact that the Ducks have been horrible over the last 4 years. Mostly because of the rebuild. Or the fact that goalies don't age as harsh as skaters. They stay in the goal crease. You see alot of goaltenders still playing into there late 30's. They usually decline in the amount of games they play. Or the fact that Gibson usually plays better under meaningful game like playoff games. This has shown up in the past in previous playoffs series. Or another fact that Gibson Has been tring to improve his mechanics. He's been tring to stay on his skates more and should make him more durable. All that diving around and break dance moves takes alot out of him. Staying upright should conserve energy leading to more sustainable success. Another fact. Gibson Hates losing. I Iike this quality. You seem to think he's upset with the Ducks. But he wants to win. A quality I wish more of Ducks players and management had. Last fact. We have no proven successor. There are a couple of talented prospects. But I'd like to see at least a full season as a backup before claiming they're the heir apparent. Now Dostal I think is a NHL quality Goalie from what I've seen. But how good. Thats Still up in the air.

Now i keep telling you these things dozer. But those stats or analytics you keep quoting me are useless. The fact that the Ducks were actually tring to lose makes the stats faulty. Just bad data plugged into and flawed algorithm. It all means nothing. When the Ducks try tank it throws everything off. The Numbers, Roster decisions, Complete level of the players are all off. There really isn't a reliable way to gage this team statically. In this case scouting, history, background stories, and talent level are more accurate. Now if the compete level of the entire Anaheim Ducks organization raises to at least the NHL average then you can judge using stats. And that's everyone in the organization. Players, coaches, Gms, Presidents, Owners, trainers, etc. There is no way you can tell me this organization is tring when the Ducks are 18 million below the cap floor. And If they're not tring then everything is off. Bad data all the way through.