Maybe on the calls but if they had the secondary scoring they needed the calls may not have made any difference. So 2 years ago the big boys couldn't score, this year they fixed that and the secondary scoring dried up - next year both should be fixed then and they win right?

Or is it a 'lack of production from the blueline" that is year 3 problem and they fix that and win in year 4?


I am looking forward to a full season of Gio on the point letting that bomb of a shot go. #GIO4PP1
- Cush29

Next year, goaltending will let us down? Also, I hope not.

Zach Hyman Playoff Goals:

16/17: 1
17/18: 1
18/19: 1
19/20: 1
20/21: 1
21/22: 11

Sometimes you just have to laugh it off and accept that Leafy things happen all the time

[quote=winsix]


Officiating was one sided at times in the series.

This and the way Vasi was in the Leaf series shows just how deep Tampa is.....and I'm jealous.


- Cush29

That and how much the leafs werent able to take advantage.

Pretty sure they'll burn down the city if/when McDavid leaves.
- AdamFrench

I doubt Edmonton would ever allow McDavid to walk. If he is not open to negotiating a new deal over the final 24 months of his contract he will be moved to a team that has the assets and cap space to make it happen. NY media has already started writing stories on why McDavid with the Rangers would be such a good fit for NY and for the NHL.

Not sure this kind of talk is a positive trend for a sport that already seems to be sliding backwards in the rating and demographic comparisons with other sports (especially the NBA).

Maybe on the calls but if they had the secondary scoring they needed the calls may not have made any difference. So 2 years ago the big boys couldn't score, this year they fixed that and the secondary scoring dried up - next year both should be fixed then and they win right?

Or is it a 'lack of production from the blueline" that is year 3 problem and they fix that and win in year 4?


I am looking forward to a full season of Gio on the point letting that bomb of a shot go. #GIO4PP1
- Cush29

The 12 minutes of PK for the Leafs was a factor, the biggest factor IMO were the non calls on infractions against Marner and Matthews. McDonaugh was basically given a free pass to cross-check, interfere, hold, board and knee the entire series.

crazy
having the best player(s) in the League doesnt mean a thing in the NHL anymore.

Mcdavid can only play 1/3 of the game
- senstroll

It does if you dont surround them with crap. Imagine McDavid on the Leafs instead of JT.

[quote=PatC80]
For both teams.
All teams have to deal with bad officiating, so tired of using this as an excuse

Next year, goaltending will let us down? Also, I hope not.

Zach Hyman Playoff Goals:

16/17: 1
17/18: 1
18/19: 1
19/20: 1
20/21: 1
21/22: 11

Sometimes you just have to laugh it off and accept that Leafy things happen all the time
- PatC80

he sure like his 1's

I doubt Edmonton would ever allow McDavid to walk. If he is not open to negotiating a new deal over the final 24 months of his contract he will be moved to a team that has the assets and cap space to make it happen. NY media has already started writing stories on why McDavid with the Rangers would be such a good fit for NY and for the NHL.

Not sure this kind of talk is a positive trend for a sport that already seems to be sliding backwards in the rating and demographic comparisons with other sports (especially the NBA).
- spatso

He hass a NMC, they might not get much. He gets to choose if, where and when he goes.

I honesty dont think he holds out to goto NYR. I honestly dont see him leaving yet, unless they really flop the next couple of years.

The 12 minutes of PK for the Leafs was a factor, the biggest factor IMO were the non calls on infractions against Marner and Matthews. McDonaugh was basically given a free pass to cross-check, interfere, hold, board and knee the entire series.
- winsix

Where do they get these free passes and why aren't the leafs buying some with all that money?

(frank)ing Rogers cheaping out at the worst possible time!

Where do they get these free passes and why aren't the leafs buying some with all that money?

(frank)ing Rogers cheaping out at the worst possible time!
- Scabeh

Tim Peel doesn't sell them to the Maple Leafs

Where do they get these free passes and why aren't the leafs buying some with all that money?

(frank)ing Rogers cheaping out at the worst possible time!
- Scabeh

they gotta find a way to pay for the 5G wireless network

Tim Peel doesn't sell them to the Maple Leafs
- PatC80

only evokes them on them

It does if you dont surround them with crap. Imagine McDavid on the Leafs instead of JT.
- Archaic

Or just imagine Campbell and Gio on the Oilers, makes them much better.


But Mcd on the top line and AM on the 2nd? Wow.

It does if you dont surround them with crap. Imagine McDavid on the Leafs instead of JT.
- Archaic

Yeah and MacKinnon instead of Kampf. Fire Dubas

they gotta find a way to pay for the 5G wireless network
- dmnted

Pfff with Huawei out of the way, they can take their time and afford the crosschecking passes.

Hell I'm sure Shea Weber is willing to sell his for cheap, he can't even use it anymore.

I still think Paul Stastny would be a good fit for the Leafs if he is interested. Maybe he takes less for a contender this year.

“I’m getting older in my career, so I don’t really have that much time left. So, really for us, it’s that I just want to win,”

https://www.tsn.ca/winnip...nhl-free-agency-1.1809635

Yeah and MacKinnon instead of Kampf. Fire Dubas
- Canada Cup

Not sure you got what the comment was about???

I subtracted a similar contract to show its possible to fill a team with decent players when having that cap hit.

Im just saying, the way the oilers have spent their money has been poor, and bad management.

I know the Oilers got further then the Leafs, but conference and opponents matter. The minute they played an actual contending team they got swept.

I doubt Edmonton would ever allow McDavid to walk. If he is not open to negotiating a new deal over the final 24 months of his contract he will be moved to a team that has the assets and cap space to make it happen. NY media has already started writing stories on why McDavid with the Rangers would be such a good fit for NY and for the NHL.

Not sure this kind of talk is a positive trend for a sport that already seems to be sliding backwards in the rating and demographic comparisons with other sports (especially the NBA).
- spatso

If they haven’t won a Cup, Holland holds onto McDavid until the last second. Why do you think he’s throws around Hyman $ and term?

Where do they get these free passes and why aren't the leafs buying some with all that money?

(frank)ing Rogers cheaping out at the worst possible time!
- Scabeh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4gMD7JpYNU

Rule 6.7 – Fighting and Roughing
A Major penalty and a Game Misconduct penalty shall be assessed to any player that fights with an opposing player.

A player who is identified by the Referee as being the instigator or the aggressor in a fight shall be assessed a Minor penalty, in addition to any other penalties they may incur.

A Minor penalty for instigator shall be assessed any player identified by the Referee as being the instigator of a fight.

A Minor penalty for aggressor shall be assessed any player identified by the Referee as being the aggressor in a fight.
Officials are to assess the additional minor to an instigator in situations where only one player is assessed a Major penalty and a Game Misconduct for fighting.

An “Instigator” shall be defined as a player who, by their physical or verbal actions or demeanour, is responsible for starting, causing or attempting to start or cause a fight based on any one or more of the following criteria:

Throwing or attempting to throw the first punch, thus forcing their opponent to defend themselves by engaging in an otherwise undesired fight.
Verbal invitation, instigation or threat, thus forcing their opponent to defend themselves by engaging in an otherwise undesired fight.
First player to remove gloves and throw a punch without their opponent’s compliance.
Distance traveled to an altercation or travel to an altercation against the flow of play for the purpose of starting a fight.
Attempting to throw, throwing or continuing to throw punches at an opponent who has physically or verbally expressed an unwillingness to fight.
Attempting to throw, throwing or continuing to throw punches at an opponent who is in a defenseless position.
Menacing attitude or posture towards an opponent, thus forcing their opponent to defend themselves by engaging in an undesired fight.
Retaliation for a legal or illegal action, thus forcing their opponent to defend themselves by engaging in an otherwise undesired fight.

A player that instigates a fight and continues to throw punches at an opponent who does not retaliate or who retaliates only in self-defence shall be assessed an additional Minor penalty for Aggressor, plus any other penalties they may incur. In the extreme case where a player continues to throw punches at a player who is not retaliating or is defenceless and is being actively restrained by the Referee or Linesperson, the offending player may be assessed a Match penalty for Deliberate Attempt to Injure at the Referee’s discretion under Rule 6.1 (a).


Watch Maroon punch Rielly 4-5 times while he stll has his gloves on. Maroon received no penalty at all - only a 10 minute misconduct.

Both Perry and Maroon instigated - bush league officiating.

Not sure you got what the comment was about???

I subtracted a similar contract to show its possible to fill a team with decent players when having that cap hit.

Im just saying, the way the oilers have spent their money has been poor, and bad management.

I know the Oilers got further then the Leafs, but conference and opponents matter. The minute they played an actual contending team they got swept.
- Archaic

Calgary was a legit contender. LA was only 5pts behind Edmonton. They were pretty much on the same level.

Calgary was a legit contender. LA was only 5pts behind Edmonton. They were pretty much on the same level.
- Fakepartofme

Calgary folded on themselves, Edmonton deserves zero credit for what happened there and Colorado just showed them that.

Calgary was a legit contender. LA was only 5pts behind Edmonton. They were pretty much on the same level.
- Fakepartofme

I disagree, Calgary was overrated due to being in the western conference. I never considered them a contender. Obviously JMO.

Ive seen people post that LA was only 5 points behind them like that makes LA some good team, again, they were in the west. When you have a team that is just mediocore, star players like McDavid and Draisaitl can feed off them with little resistence.

All that tells me is that Edmonton wasnt that good to begin with. Im not sure Edmonton makes the playoffs in the East, and if they do its a wild card spot.

Yup. Build from the net out.
- Fakepartofme

if you mean get lucky with a goalie, then yes. I agree

Have no idea how a team can start with a Goalie and build from there.

Shesterkin was drafted 8 years ago, and the rangers took 3 nobodys ahead of him in that draft. so good planning?

Calgary was a legit contender. LA was only 5pts behind Edmonton. They were pretty much on the same level.
- Fakepartofme

Calgary was a legit contender, but then Markstrom forgot how to goalie