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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
Insurance is probably picking up the entirety of the real cash
- Hank Balling


Why would insurance pay for an injury?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
Why would insurance pay for an injury?
- DirtyDan


Depends on the team and player, but some teams will insure contracts against the possibility that a player never plays again. If that happens, the insurer picks up part or all of the cost of the remaining cash
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 10 @ 4:24 PM ET
What are your thoughts on Kemell or Savoie?
- PrinceChill


Savoie is my dream at 9. If he’s 6’2 he is a slam dunk top 3 pick.

Kemell’s release will have him as a fixture on a PP1 for years for whomever drafts him. I don’t think he’s as good as Liiga point totals say he is (inflated shooting percentage) but he looks the part of a top 6 winger in the league and would be another sniper in the org if the Sabres happen to take him at 9.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 10 @ 4:24 PM ET
Credit to KA ? Terry ? Analytics department?
- Boss34


I feel bad for everyone in the front office. Imagine taking an NHL job and being pressured to find a way to operate below the cap floor? Across town, Josh Allen will be paid almost as much in real $ as the entire Sabres roster.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 10 @ 4:26 PM ET
Why would insurance pay for an injury?
- DirtyDan


Sabres hiring The Barnes Firm...their going to pay!
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 10 @ 4:28 PM ET
Savoie is my dream at 9. If he’s 6’2 he is a slam dunk top 3 pick.

Kemell’s release will have him as a fixture on a PP1 for years for whomever drafts him. I don’t think he’s as good as Liiga point totals say he is (inflated shooting percentage) but he looks the part of a top 6 winger in the league and would be another sniper in the org if the Sabres happen to take him at 9.

- Pegullaville

Nice. Thanks. I’m rooting for Savoie to fall as well. There should also be someone good to take at 16. Good pick to take a swing on a high upside guy.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
Insurance is probably picking up the entirety of the real cash
- Hank Balling


It's 60% due to his age, if his contract is insured.

The Sabres could wait until after the Stars pay his $1M bonus to lower what they will owe even more, but not sure the Stars will go for that.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ben-bishop

Bishop is 35 years old. This means that if his contract is still insured his $3.5M in actual salary still owed would only be covered up to 60%.

https://twitter.com/CapFr...idrvsPHlXsWIz7gn7cUA&s=19
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
I feel bad for everyone in the front office. Imagine taking an NHL job and being pressured to find a way to operate below the cap floor? Across town, Josh Allen will be paid almost as much in real $ as the entire Sabres roster.
- Lunaion


I get the feeling this is the last year of being a bottom feeder.
FO focuses on maximizing the Draft for 2 years...
Use this season to test and validate their new Analytics Sytem, work out the kinks.
Next season they work on Trades and FA as well.

It's coming around.
Trust the Process. Resist the urge to splurge.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
It's 60% due to his age, if his contract is insured.

The Sabres could wait until after the Stars pay his $1M bonus to lower what they will owe even more, but not sure the Stars will go for that.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ben-bishop

Bishop is 35 years old. This means that if his contract is still insured his $3.5M in actual salary still owed would only be covered up to 60%.

https://twitter.com/CapFr...idrvsPHlXsWIz7gn7cUA&s=19

- kingcong39


$1.1m less to pay toward the stadium
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
I get the feeling this is the last year of being a bottom feeder.
FO focuses on maximizing the Draft for 2 years...
Use this season to test and validate their new Analytics Sytem, work out the kinks.
Next season they work on Trades and FA as well.

It's coming around.
Trust the Process. Resist the urge to splurge.

- IonSabres



IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
Nice. Thanks. I’m rooting for Savoie to fall as well. There should also be someone good to take at 16. Good pick to take a swing on a high upside guy.
- PrinceChill


If they retain all 3 - 1sts, and their 2nd, their pipeline will be fortified very nicely. Add in 3 2nds next year and boom, it is time to fire up the booster rockets!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:46 PM ET
I mean who knows, but he made $1.05m the last 2 years and $1.5m the year or 2 before that.
- IonSabres

I expect adams to overpay to retain, like with girgens
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 10 @ 4:47 PM ET
Why, if you intend to sign the following, would you make the Bishop trade -
- starting G, $3m to $6m
- 2RhD, $4.5m+
- scoring winger, at $4m+

Doesn't make sense since those moves combined with other roster signings get you over the Cap Floor and about $20m short of the Cap Ceiling. There would be no senseahle reason to do so.

Sabres are signaling they are a Cap Floor team.

- IonSabres


So…. What you are saying…

Add JJP and Quinn.

Maybe, maybe! Resign olo, but probably trade him

Resign eakin.

Sign PK

Upl and Malcolm start the year.

If this is the path, do the vibes last?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
Nice. Thanks. I’m rooting for Savoie to fall as well. There should also be someone good to take at 16. Good pick to take a swing on a high upside guy.
- PrinceChill


Definitely will be.

July 7th/8th are the most important days in the franchise’s history and what the Sabres accomplish on that day is more significant than whether they are a cap floor or or cap ceiling team imo.

Picking 9, 16, 28, 41 we need to hit on three of the picks, with two being studs
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
I feel bad for everyone in the front office. Imagine taking an NHL job and being pressured to find a way to operate below the cap floor? Across town, Josh Allen will be paid almost as much in real $ as the entire Sabres roster.
- Lunaion



🤣🤣🤣

They all know the plan down there. They're building around the young guys. People need to stop being in denial about it.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
🤣🤣🤣

They all know the plan down there. They're building around the young guys. People need to stop being in denial about it.

- Powerslave

what happens when you have to pay 3 or 4 prospects their bridge deals for 4 years straight though?


bringing up 12-15 guys over a 4 year stretch is going to be very hard to keep a team under the cap 5 years later
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 10 @ 5:02 PM ET
🤣🤣🤣

They all know the plan down there. They're building around the young guys. People need to stop being in denial about it.

- Powerslave


They are operating like a minor league team. Don't have to be happy about that.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 5:05 PM ET
They are operating like a minor league team. Don't have to be happy about that.
- Lunaion

arizona north without the few playoff series over the last 11 years

Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 10 @ 5:06 PM ET
🤣🤣🤣

They all know the plan down there. They're building around the young guys. People need to stop being in denial about it.

- Powerslave


They're relying on the young guys. Building around them is TBD. Getting a pro-rated $5m towards the cap for a guy who won't play is not building around them
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
They're relying on the young guys. Building around them is TBD. Getting a pro-rated $5m towards the cap for a guy who won't play is not building around them
- Hank Balling

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 5:09 PM ET
what happens when you have to pay 3 or 4 prospects their bridge deals for 4 years straight though?


bringing up 12-15 guys over a 4 year stretch is going to be very hard to keep a team under the cap 5 years later

- homiedclown



I'm not worried about it. Why should anyone be worried about it? They'll figure it out.

They're not ready to go nuts in free agency. Now is not the time.

They'll get a goalie, D man, maybe a F (or maybe it's Vinnie).

My point is, we all know what's happening, how they're going about it, the basic timeline, etc etc. To act surprised by anything they're doing (acquiring a bad contract for a year) tells me some people aren't paying attention.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 5:10 PM ET
They are operating like a minor league team. Don't have to be happy about that.
- Lunaion


No they're not.

They're building a major league team.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 10 @ 5:11 PM ET

- homiedclown


I will not be shocked when Malcolm Subban and Thomas Greiss are competing for a spot behind UPL
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 5:12 PM ET
They're relying on the young guys. Building around them is TBD. Getting a pro-rated $5m towards the cap for a guy who won't play is not building around them
- Hank Balling



Whatever. Semantics. You knew what I meant. The young guys are going to be the core.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
I'm not worried about it. Why should anyone be worried about it? They'll figure it out.

They're not ready to go nuts in free agency. Now is not the time.

They'll get a goalie, D man, maybe a F (or maybe it's Vinnie).

My point is, we all know what's happening, how they're going about it, the basic timeline, etc etc. To act surprised by anything they're doing (acquiring a bad contract for a year) tells me some people aren't paying attention.

- Powerslave

given the fact there is a window for a goalie, a top 4 RD and a top 6 guy for 2 years

there is zero reason not to try to grab 3 guys to fill those holes and give this team a chance to compete and get out of the most miserable 11 year stench in the entire existence of the NHL history


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