He's like 5'9" or 5'10" what is wrong with that? Sorry but that is truly an awful thing to say about the Savoie kid, saying he's a midget. What is wrong with you?

- PuckPix

With the #7 pick I take the guy with 41 goals if I have a choice between Savoie or Debrincat at 5'9"

But, if the Hawks are open to taking back Murray, Zaitsev and/or Colin White I would want to up my offer for the big Dman (5 goals, 46 assists).

Hawks also want to move Kane (92 points). He is still a great skater. But far too old for the Sens' compete window. Evander would be better option. But, I think he chooses to take less and stick with McDavid.

But. I am still sticking with Dubois as my preferred #1 trade target. But, I fear the Dubois option is quickly slipping away. No way Trotz takes Jets' job if they are about to trade away their best Trotz type player.

You have two players on your roster that are 5’9”. Tyler Ennis and Erik Brannstrom
- PuckPix

One of the reasons I was skeptical of the return on the Stone trade. Very difficult for a wee, little person to excel in the NHL, especially in the playoffs. There are notable exceptions but a big, red flag for me. Draft for size and speed coupled with hockey IQ.

With the #7 pick I take the guy with 41 goals if I have a choice between Savoie or Debrincat at 5'9"

But, if the Hawks are open to taking back Murray, Zaitsev and/or Colin White I would want to up my offer for the big Dman (5 goals, 46 assists).

Hawks also want to move Kane (92 points). He is still a great skater. But far too old for the Sens' compete window. Evander would be better option. But, I think he chooses to take less and stick with McDavid.

But. I am still sticking with Dubois as my preferred #1 trade target. But, I fear the Dubois option is quickly slipping away. No way Trotz takes Jets' job if they are about to trade away their best Trotz type player.
- spatso

Hockey db and cap friendly both have DeBrincat listed at 5'7" and 165 pounds. I'm not touching that guy with a ten foot pole especially after a career year. I would offer Evander a hefty 2 year deal and I would roll the dice on Lambert at number 7 understanding full well that he's a high risk high reward kind of guy; but the Sens have Mann to work with him.

I think you like Dubois because you see Norris as a winger, and maybe that's where he should be, but no way Tkachuk wants to not play with his buddy who he is going to encourage to hold up the team in his contract talks. That duo is going to prove problematic down the road because they want to be the number one guys, especially Tkachuk, and neither of them are. The main reason Tkachuk loves Smith so much.

Hockey db and cap friendly both have DeBrincat listed at 5'7" and 165 pounds. I'm not touching that guy with a ten foot pole especially after a career year. I would offer Evander a hefty 2 year deal and I would roll the dice on Lambert at number 7 understanding full well that he's a high risk high reward kind of guy but the Sens have Mann to work with him.

I think you like Dubois because you see Norris as a winger, and maybe that's where he should be, but no way Tkachuk wants to not play with his buddy who he is going to encourage to hold up the team in his contract talks. That duo is going to prove problematic down the road because they want to be the number one guys, especially Tkachuk, and neither of them are. The main reason Tkachuk loves Smith so much.
- Whatisavailable

That is pretty good analysis of situation, and even better psycho analysis of my motives and thinking.

I really like Norris. But, I believe most teams did not take the Senators too seriously. And, because of that, Norris benefitted by shooting the same shot from the same spot against a back up goalie on most nights. Shooting percentage will be very hard to sustain once teams begin to better prepare to play against the Sens.

In the case of Tkachuk, I see where the Hockey Writers recently ranked him as the #4 power forward in the league. I like him a lot. 7 years @$8m plus is a lot.

Love this team. And I think they are going to be very good as early as this coming season.

I believe the star player starting very soon is Stuetzle. Whichever line he plays on will be the #1 line. Teams already try to physically intimidate him and he is going to see a lot more pushing and jabbing after the whistles.

I do wish that the team would find a way to get Brady, Evander or Pierre Luc to be able to skate with him. He needs someone who can skate but also capable of creating space because of their physical play. I don't want them to put another dancer with Timmy. I want a power forward who can bang and create space for him and score from down low at the front or side of the net. Timmy will get them the puck.

Hockey db and cap friendly both have DeBrincat listed at 5'7" and 165 pounds. I'm not touching that guy with a ten foot pole especially after a career year. I would offer Evander a hefty 2 year deal and I would roll the dice on Lambert at number 7 understanding full well that he's a high risk high reward kind of guy; but the Sens have Mann to work with him.

I think you like Dubois because you see Norris as a winger, and maybe that's where he should be, but no way Tkachuk wants to not play with his buddy who he is going to encourage to hold up the team in his contract talks. That duo is going to prove problematic down the road because they want to be the number one guys, especially Tkachuk, and neither of them are. The main reason Tkachuk loves Smith so much.
- Whatisavailable

It's not like this was the first year Debrincat posted 40 goals though.

Leafs will not make an offer to Mikheyev. He is walking. He would be in my second tier for a possible Sens UFA signing. He has lived at the bottom of the Leaf roster and still scored 21 goals in 53 games. He was a scorer in Russia before joining the Leafs. Decent size, good on the penalty kill. Close to Formenton speed.

It's not like this was the first year Debrincat posted 40 goals though.
- TDBSenatoR

Debrincat has been a scorer wherever he has played. Folks keep predicting that his size will catch up with him...but it has not. Good analysis over on Hawks blog saying Hawks are opting for the long rebuild and Kane, Debrincat and Jones will be available to support the rebuild.

What makes the Hawks so attractive as a trading partner is that they are going to have substantial cap space, they need warm bodies and they will not be afraid to take back duds (Murray, Zaitsev, Colin White). However, they do not have any interest in players (especially a goaltender) that might actually stop pucks and lower their chances in the Conor Bedard sweeps.

Curios, think about it. They may be the first team that is able to demonstrate that you can spend your way to full failure and still win the lottery (oops Montreal proved it this past year). You can achieve a lot with bad goaltending.

It's not like this was the first year Debrincat posted 40 goals though.
- TDBSenatoR

I would like the Sens to win multiple Cups not just make the playoffs. DeBrincat would probably help the Sens make the playoffs but the playoffs are very physical and small guys tend to disappear. He would also cost a lot in terms of assets and cap space and that means you're going to lose good players down the road who would do well in the playoffs because you can't pay them and that's not even mentioning the money they'll need to spend on a goalie. Forsberg isn't going to cut it as a number 1.

The Sens have their top guys. They're just a little young. They need those good 4 or 5 million dollar support guys to surround them with. By the way, Connor Brown is one of those guys. So was Nick Paul. Gambrell is not. Mismanagement of assets.

i'd rather them pry Koneckny and Provorov out of Philly.


the announcement about Lebretton..... 40% Minto, 20% OSEG, 20% (the girls and the Team) 10% others (ex players). Minto gets all the rights to build the surrounding stuff, OSEG will be tasked with running the arena/sports/entertainment operations, the girls will still be famous, make a small % and probably get a premium price for the CTC and adjacent lands(helping get rid of some of dad's debt). The ex-players will help sell it all and be ambassadors.

i'd rather them pry Koneckny and Provorov out of Philly.


the announcement about Lebretton..... 40% Minto, 20% OSEG, 20% (the girls and the Team) 10% others (ex players). Minto gets all the rights to build the surrounding stuff, OSEG will be tasked with running the arena/sports/entertainment operations, the girls will still be famous, make a small % and probably get a premium price for the CTC and adjacent lands(helping get rid of some of dad's debt). The ex-players will help sell it all and be ambassadors.
- Octavarium

what about the last 10%? 40+20+20+10=90

what about the last 10%? 40+20+20+10=90
- Mithos

as bob n doug would say..."those are the mystery days" or in this case the mystery percents.

I was leaving ten for spatso to inject some yet unknown heathen to get this thing off the ground

I would like the Sens to win multiple Cups not just make the playoffs. DeBrincat would probably help the Sens make the playoffs but the playoffs are very physical and small guys tend to disappear. He would also cost a lot in terms of assets and cap space and that means you're going to lose good players down the road who would do well in the playoffs because you can't pay them and that's not even mentioning the money they'll need to spend on a goalie. Forsberg isn't going to cut it as a number 1.

The Sens have their top guys. They're just a little young. They need those good 4 or 5 million dollar support guys to surround them with. By the way, Connor Brown is one of those guys. So was Nick Paul. Gambrell is not. Mismanagement of assets.
- Whatisavailable

Theoretically OTT can sign Paul in the offseason but Brown will most likely be traded at this years deadline if he is asking 5m+.

as bob n doug would say..."those are the mystery days" or in this case the mystery percents.

I was leaving ten for spatso to inject some yet unknown heathen to get this thing off the ground
- Octavarium

I missed that the numbers did not add up. I was too busy trying wrap my head around the shared percentage between Minto and OSEG as Minto is already well established as part of the ownership and management group of OSEG.

Leafs will not make an offer to Mikheyev. He is walking. He would be in my second tier for a possible Sens UFA signing. He has lived at the bottom of the Leaf roster and still scored 21 goals in 53 games. He was a scorer in Russia before joining the Leafs. Decent size, good on the penalty kill. Close to Formenton speed.
- spatso

Mikheyev should be intriguing to a bunch of teams provided his ask is reasonable. VAN has disappointing wingers and should be all over Mikhayev.

With every transaction - it will come down to (a) what will the price be to get the player AND/OR (b) what will be the price to keep him, $$$

With Dubois, Pasternak, and other RFA's, you pretty much need to have a deal on the table before they even play 1 game with the organization. Based on what I've seen with Bobby Ryan and Matt Murray - I am against that thinking big time
- AlfieisKing

Stay clear of Dubois.

Pierre-Luc Dubois has told the #NHLJets he plans to test the free agent waters in 2024,
@FriedgeHNIC
reports. Jets have team control for two more years.

Stay clear of Dubois.

Pierre-Luc Dubois has told the #NHLJets he plans to test the free agent waters in 2024,
@FriedgeHNIC
reports. Jets have team control for two more years.
- PuckPix

Very disappointing news. A month ago Dubois went public and said he was open to signing a long term deal in Winnipeg. What changed? Wonder if this news comes from the Jets front office? Two full years is a very long time in the competitive world of professional sports. It does not make a lot of sense to leak this information unless something is being set up. Look for a trade announcement within the next week or so?

Columbus leaked similar information about Seth Jones immediatly before they traded him to the Hawks, where he negotiated a $9.5m long term deal (Pat Brisson is agent for both Jones and Dubois).

If you are trying to understand this from Dubois' advantage, there is none. His agent knows that as bad as the cap is today, it will only be worse two years out when players are entering the last year of escrow payback.

And, the other rumours coming from Winnipeg are about the possibility of Wheeler and/or Schiefle being traded. Something is about to move.

Very disappointing news. A month ago Dubois went public and said he was open to signing a long term deal in Winnipeg. What changed? Wonder if this news comes from the Jets front office? Two full years is a very long time in the competitive world of professional sports. It does not make a lot of sense to leak this information unless something is being set up. Look for a trade announcement within the next week or so?

Columbus leaked similar information about Seth Jones immediatly before they traded him to the Hawks, where he negotiated a $9.5m long term deal (Pat Brisson is agent for both Jones and Dubois).

If you are trying to understand this from Dubois' advantage, there is none. His agent knows that as bad as the cap is today, it will only be worse two years out when players are entering the last year of escrow payback.

And, the other rumours coming from Winnipeg are about the possibility of Wheeler and/or Schiefle being traded. Something is about to move.
- spatso

Read the quote, it clearly says Dubois told the Jets website he will explore his UFA status. It has been mentioned many times, he wants to play close to home. So if you read this, this never came from the team, straight from the player.

Mikheyev should be intriguing to a bunch of teams provided his ask is reasonable. VAN has disappointing wingers and should be all over Mikhayev.
- Minnyhock

Will he be as motivated every year on a 4 year deal as he was this year, knowing he was a UFA this summer and would cash big? It's like this with many players. He has 7 goals last year in 54 games, this year he gets 21 in 53 games during a contract year.

as bob n doug would say..."those are the mystery days" or in this case the mystery percents.

I was leaving ten for spatso to inject some yet unknown heathen to get this thing off the ground
- Octavarium

I hope your city and team get the arena deal, so all idiot fans that like to crap on Canadian markets can't anymore as the arena deal would solidify the team in Ottawa for decades to come.

Read the quote, it clearly says Dubois told the Jets website he will explore his UFA status. It has been mentioned many times, he wants to play close to home. So if you read this, this never came from the team, straight from the player.
- PuckPix

Montreal to Ste Agathe des Monts 66 miles

Ottawa to Ste Agathe des Monts 108 miles

I hope your city and team get the arena deal, so all idiot fans that like to crap on Canadian markets can't anymore as the arena deal would solidify the team in Ottawa for decades to come.
- PuckPix

More important. Hope the announcement today clarifies how the money is being sourced and how the future ownership group will be structured. If the money is there, Dorion will deal the 7th pick, he will get a top 6 forward and top 4 Dman.

But, I don't think you want to play Karlsson ahead of Norris, Steutzle or Pinto. I think you can do better if you were thinking of playing him on the wing on the second or third line. But he is probably not a good fit with this team, especially in terms of his contract and age.
- spatso

Not sure why you think ownership stuff is doing to be announced today? It's very clear, the team isn't for sale and this announcement today has to do with the redevelopment of the land and how it will be managed, etc. The Sens play a small in this, they want to be part of the redevelopment of the land. There has never been any info from the league, just as late as Game 1 of the Cup Final, Bettman said they want to be the tenant for the downtown arena. The Sens don't have the money to build the arena.

Montreal to Ste Agathe des Monts 66 miles

Ottawa to Ste Agathe des Monts 108 miles
- spatso

He wanted out of Columbus and now he wants out of Winnipeg, all at the ripe age of 24. That says it all, you don't want this guy anywhere your team. Montreal can enjoy his side show and how he is one of the most inconsistent supposed 1C guys on teams in the NHL today.

I hope your city and team get the arena deal, so all idiot fans that like to crap on Canadian markets can't anymore as the arena deal would solidify the team in Ottawa for decades to come.
- PuckPix

It would be franchise changing as they say.

Mikheyev should be intriguing to a bunch of teams provided his ask is reasonable. VAN has disappointing wingers and should be all over Mikhayev.
- Minnyhock

No thanks, I would pass on him.