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SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
Haven't seen any reports that the Avs got "lucky" playing Nashville's second and third string goalie, knocked out Binnington and played a rookie goalie and then the oldest goalie in the league Mike Smith. Very fortunate for them
- Rangers99

I think the fact that they've lost 2 games so far this playoffs and have dominated those teams plays into it, don't you? If Colorado went 7 games vs Nashville or didn't dominate St. Louis and Edmonton people would point out that they were playing against injuries just like they did for us. It's pretty clear Colorado was going to dominate regardless. We just went to the ECF I think we can stop playing the victim card as fans
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:29 AM ET
Well, I think that is exactly what you'll see.
I suspect Hunt will still be a Ranger, but I hope we will see him in the line up much less frequently. Nemeth MUST be traded. Not just because he doesn't deserve a roster spot, but we NEED that cap space. Trade him and a 3rd for a 7th, I don't care. Just move him with no salary retained or returned.

- Tonybere


I know buyout is a dirty word, but, here are the stats on a Nemeth buyout

2022-23: 1 million cap hit
2023-24: 0 cap hit

2024-25: 1 million cap hit
2025-26: 1 million cap hit



Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 14 @ 9:29 AM ET
I think the fact that they've lost 2 games so far this playoffs and have dominated those teams plays into it, don't you? If Colorado went 7 games vs Nashville or didn't dominate St. Louis and Edmonton people would point out that they were playing against injuries just like they did for us. It's pretty clear Colorado was going to dominate regardless. We just went to the ECF I think we can stop playing the victim card as fans
- SkjeiStadium


I'm saying it more as a joke to how that's what we all heard is the reasons why the Rangers went this far. I wouldn't care if the Rangers won the cup playing every teams minor league affiliates
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
I know buyout is a dirty word, but, here are the stats on a Nemeth buyout

2022-23: 1 million cap hit
2023-24: 0 cap hit

2024-25: 1 million cap hit
2025-26: 1 million cap hit

- jimbro83



(frank) that.

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SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 14 @ 9:33 AM ET
I think I would have been more OK with that. I can't stand Hunt.
- JRR1285

I can't stand Hunt either and I was really mad Kakko was scratched too, but I've moved on.

I think GG wanted Goodrow in the top 9 for game 6. He was shuffling up the lines so the kid line wasn't going to be together anyway and Kakko would've been the one left on the 4th line. For 4th line duties I don't blame GG for going with Hunt over KK.

The main problem for me was that it ultimately came down to Strome vs KK. Once Strome was deemed well enough to play Kakko was announced out. That is GG being a "players coach" and trusting his veteran center and wanted to do right by him. That was a mistake and Strome clearly should've been sat for Kakko.

I guess I'm not absolving GG of blame here I just think his bad decision was actually Strome>KK not Hunt>KK
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:34 AM ET
(frank) that.

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- JRR1285


I think Motte gonna warrant more than that on open market

I could see him getting 3 years 6 mil

this cap is gonna be tight as (frank)


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:36 AM ET
I can't stand Hunt either and I was really mad Kakko was scratched too, but I've moved on.

I think GG wanted Goodrow in the top 9 for game 6. He was shuffling up the lines so the kid line wasn't going to be together anyway and Kakko would've been the one left on the 4th line. For 4th line duties I don't blame GG for going with Hunt over KK.

The main problem for me was that it ultimately came down to Strome vs KK. Once Strome was deemed well enough to play Kakko was announced out. That is GG being a "players coach" and trusting his veteran center and wanted to do right by him. That was a mistake and Strome clearly should've been sat for Kakko.

I guess I'm not absolving GG of blame here I just think his bad decision was actually Strome>KK not Hunt>KK

- SkjeiStadium


yeah to me it isn't Hunt or Kakko thats the problem, because everybody would have complained if Kakko was on 4th line anyway

the problem is more playing a severely compromised Strome instead of Kakko

if that game went into triple overtime they wouldn't have had the horses up front to play mega minutes
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
I think Motte gonna warrant more than that on open market

I could see him getting 3 years 6 mil

this cap is gonna be tight as (frank)

- jimbro83


I would pay motte that money. Gotta get nemeth off the books. Motte only 27 and a perfect 4th liner and would be the number 1 pk with Goodrow
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
I can't stand Hunt either and I was really mad Kakko was scratched too, but I've moved on.

I think GG wanted Goodrow in the top 9 for game 6. He was shuffling up the lines so the kid line wasn't going to be together anyway and Kakko would've been the one left on the 4th line. For 4th line duties I don't blame GG for going with Hunt over KK.

The main problem for me was that it ultimately came down to Strome vs KK. Once Strome was deemed well enough to play Kakko was announced out. That is GG being a "players coach" and trusting his veteran center and wanted to do right by him. That was a mistake and Strome clearly should've been sat for Kakko.

I guess I'm not absolving GG of blame here I just think his bad decision was actually Strome>KK not Hunt>KK

- SkjeiStadium



I guess that is a pretty good way to think about it. Strome kind of screwed this situation by saying he could go. I think I (and many of us) are just looking at this as a Hunt for Kakko type swing and not the scenario you said. I know people have mentioned it but you put it in a clear way that finally made it click for me.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
I'm saying it more as a joke to how that's what we all heard is the reasons why the Rangers went this far. I wouldn't care if the Rangers won the cup playing every teams minor league affiliates
- Rangers99

I agree I wouldn't put an asterisk next to any win, that's playoff hockey. I think some fans are salty seeing us get this far but if we're being honest with ourselves the injuries definitely played a big role in keeping us alive at times. Credit to the rangers for taking advantage and I don't think we need to apologize for some good injury luck going our way but we shouldn't take other fans saying stuff like that so personally, especially because it is somewhat true.

Nobody is saying that about Colorado because they are clearly legit contenders and have been nothing but dominant for the past 6 months.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
I guess that is a pretty good way to think about it. Strome kind of screwed this situation by saying he could go. I think I (and many of us) are just looking at this as a Hunt for Kakko type swing and not the scenario you said. I know people have mentioned it but you put it in a clear way that finally made it click for me.
- JRR1285

I hope it doesn't strain the relationship. I finally bought a new jersey this year, my first since Kreider when he was young, and it was a Kakko jersey
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
I think Motte gonna warrant more than that on open market

I could see him getting 3 years 6 mil

this cap is gonna be tight as (frank)

- jimbro83



Maybe but I think this could be passable starting figures for the roster. Reaves is kind of looking out of place at this point.

The cap is gonna be way tighter than MDW's butt.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
I hope it doesn't strain the relationship. I finally bought a new jersey this year, my first since Kreider when he was young, and it was a Kakko jersey
- SkjeiStadium


ballsy move
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:40 AM ET
I hope it doesn't strain the relationship. I finally bought a new jersey this year, my first since Kreider when he was young, and it was a Kakko jersey
- SkjeiStadium



I've been so close to buying a Kakko jersey for so long. I wanted to get his jersey from Finland or something more unique but I can't find one.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
ballsy move
- jimbro83



Maybe he should buy a Nemeth jersey.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
I should probably never buy a jersey again. The last 4 jersey's I have purchased in order:

Richards
Gaborik (though I think this was post trade and I wore it to an LAK game)
Nash
McDonagh
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:42 AM ET
ballsy move
- jimbro83



My 8yr. old son wanted Jersey...and told him Fox or Shesty were the safest bets
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:42 AM ET
I should probably never buy a jersey again. The last 4 jersey's I have purchased in order:

Richards
Gaborik (though I think this was post trade and I wore it to an LAK game)
Nash
McDonagh

- JRR1285


I think you'd be safe if you bought a Fox
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
ballsy move
- jimbro83

I was between him and Laf and at the time I bought it Kakko was really finding him game and Laf was struggling a bit. Wish I went Laf now but I still love Kakko's game and hope we can keep him around.

He didn't show up on the scoresheet much but I think he was a huge reason that line was as successful as they were this playoffs. He constantly made plays at the blue line to keep the puck in the zone and the pressure on. I'd love for him to turn into a Marian Hossa type player
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
My 8yr. old son wanted Jersey...and told him Fox or Shesty were the safest bets
- rrentz



It's sad that we look at it that way now.


I want to get a jersey but they need to name a (frank)ing captain.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
I think you'd be safe if you bought a Fox
- jimbro83



Would Fox be safe?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:44 AM ET
Would Fox be safe?
- JRR1285


yep, absolute guarantee he's here the rest of the decade
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:45 AM ET
It's sad that we look at it that way now.


I want to get a jersey but they need to name a (frank)ing captain.

- JRR1285


Luckily Fox IS his favorite player...I also got him a Youth Lg/XL b/c the S/M wouldn't fit in a couple years. He's like "Dad?.....what the flip?"


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:46 AM ET
I was between him and Laf and at the time I bought it Kakko was really finding him game and Laf was struggling a bit. Wish I went Laf now but I still love Kakko's game and hope we can keep him around.

He didn't show up on the scoresheet much but I think he was a huge reason that line was as successful as they were this playoffs. He constantly made plays at the blue line to keep the puck in the zone and the pressure on. I'd love for him to turn into a Marian Hossa type player

- SkjeiStadium


I really believe he's gonna be traded, but just a gut feeling
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:56 AM ET
I really believe he's gonna be traded, but just a gut feeling
- jimbro83



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