What a wild interpretation
- NorthNuck

You watched the video right?

You watched the video right?
- VanHockeyGuy

You're talking about it like he laid out a roadmap to a cup win when all he said was I think they should keep this one player

Lol. This is exactly the type of shit the kids at work say before they get fired. 😉
- Load Management

Hey, just because you've been brainwashed to equate "productivity" into life value, doesn't mean it's the means to a fulfilling and accomplished life/society. 40 hours/week is such an arbitrary concept, much like school curriculum/focus is a holdover from the industrial revolution. It's this exact mindset we have to Logan's Run out of this fan base

Hey, just because you've been brainwashed to equate "productivity" into life value, doesn't mean it's the means to a fulfilling and accomplished life/society. 40 hours/week is such an arbitrary concept, much like school curriculum/focus is a holdover from the industrial revolution. It's this exact mindset we have to Logan's Run out of this fan base
- NewYorkNuck

Stop harrassing old people with your new fangled ideas

You're talking about it like he laid out a roadmap to a cup win when all he said was I think they should keep this one player
- NorthNuck

He offered up two players who he may be willing to trade.

This is your video isn't it?

He offered up two players who he may be willing to trade.

This is your video isn't it?
- VanHockeyGuy

Out of the top 9 forwards, sure. This isn't a look at the team as a whole, I think you completely misinterpreted it.

The idea that the Canucks HAVE to trade Miller is predicated entirely on what imaginary return people think they would get for him. I personally don't think you can get close to the haul for him that people are hoping.

The team isn't close, but he's not wrong when he says people want to "tear it all down", but there's nothing to tear down, they want to tear down rubble only to build more rubble.

Stop harrassing old people with your new fangled ideas
- NorthNuck

You're going to get grounded by Makita.

You're going to get grounded by Makita.
- Marwood

He's not my real dad and you're not my real grandad

Out of the top 9 forwards, sure. This isn't a look at the team as a whole, I think you completely misinterpreted it.

The idea that the Canucks HAVE to trade Miller is predicated entirely on what imaginary return people think they would get for him. I personally don't think you can get close to the haul for him that people are hoping.

The team isn't close, but he's not wrong when he says people want to "tear it all down", but there's nothing to tear down, they want to tear down rubble only to build more rubble.
- NorthNuck

Wrong, watch the video. Forget about JTM ffs. There are 2 players this Chooch is willing to offload to fix the "holes", and the team doesn't need anymore draft picks.

Wrong, watch the video. Forget about JTM ffs. There are 2 players this Chooch is willing to offload to fix the "holes", and the team doesn't need anymore draft picks.
- VanHockeyGuy

*Video is titled "I do not think the Canucks should trade JT Miller"*

"Forget about JTM! That's not what this is about!"

I'm not saying I agree with everything he says, I just posted it to invite dicussion.

*Video is titled "I do not think the Canucks should trade JT Miller"*

"Forget about JTM! That's not what this is about!"
- NorthNuck

He also spoke on improving the roster and players to move.

He also spoke on improving the roster and players to move.
- VanHockeyGuy

Who do you propose moving in the offseason?

Who do you propose moving in the offseason?
- NorthNuck

I don't f*cking know, I'll leave that up to you mental masturbators.

I don't f*cking know, I'll leave that up to you mental masturbators.
- VanHockeyGuy

So you want to pick apart and critisize someones view of the team while offering no personal view as a way of remaining immune to critisism.

Who do you propose moving in the offseason?
- NorthNuck

Miller.

Miller.
- Marwood

What would you consider a reasonable return for him?

Miller.
- Marwood

And Bo.

So you want to pick apart and critisize someones view of the team while offering no personal view as a way of remaining immune to critisism.
- NorthNuck

Exactly, it's taken you this long to figure that out?

What would you consider a reasonable return for him?
- NorthNuck

A younger player with substantial upside, either defense or forward, defense preferred, a 1st and either a prospect or another pick or 2.

And Bo.
- VanHockeyGuy

Sure, anyone should be available. Neither he nor Demko would be my first choices to move but after 8 years of futility, anyone should be available for the right return.

A younger player with substantial upside, either defense or forward, defense preferred, a 1st and either a prospect or another pick or 2.
- Marwood

See I just don't think you get that on the open market. Maybe I'm wrong, if I am, I'd be in favour of trading him.

See I just don't think you get that on the open market. Maybe I'm wrong, if I am, I'd be in favour of trading him.
- NorthNuck

Maybe, maybe not. First round picks were being moved for 3rd liners at the last deadline. There are a number of teams that are close with lots of younger players that are looking to get over the hump. I'm with you that Miller's stick swinging, open pouting and giving up on plays may cost a pick or prospect in a trade, though.

Maybe, maybe not. First round picks were being moved for 3rd liners at the last deadline. There are a number of teams that are close with lots of younger players that are looking to get over the hump. I'm with you that Miller's stick swinging, open pouting and giving up on plays may cost a pick or prospect in a trade, though.
- Marwood

There's a pretty sizable gap between an early 1st and a mid to late 1st as well. Top 15, you probably have an NHLer, beyond that, the odds drop off pretty quickly, so there is the question of how good of a 1st would Van be asking for

There's a pretty sizable gap between an early 1st and a mid to late 1st as well. Top 15, you probably have an NHLer, beyond that, the odds drop off pretty quickly, so there is the question of how good of a 1st would Van be asking for
- NorthNuck

The other option is to do a 'Benning' and keep him and then let him walk when he hits free agency.

See I just don't think you get that on the open market. Maybe I'm wrong, if I am, I'd be in favour of trading him.
- NorthNuck

Your video guy is proposing trading Garland or Hoglander.