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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Goalie Roulette: Is John Gibson available and worth the price?
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
I don’t see it that way. If I’m dealing with the Ducks, I’m looking for a goalie. If there are other things I absolutely have to do to make a deal, then I consider those things but this is way too much.

If we’re looking for another forward, is Comtois the guy? We’re giving up two forwards for a rental.

I’ve said before I’d rather deal with Mrazek separately, just buy him out or do a straight out trade. Adding such a negative value into an important trade makes getting a goalie - a top priority - unnecessarily complicated.

I’m talking more in general terms

- Canada Cup


I like Comtois. He's a guy I've talked about wanting before. So my opinion on him would probably be biased.

I mean, looking at the trade alone and nothing else, I'd say the Leafs probably win it easily. Even if they're giving up the best player. It creates a hole, yeah, but they should be able to patch them up with 3 1sts at their disposal. So getting a good goalie who has the ability to be great, and a player I like in Comtois, is good personnel additions. With the bonus of assets to try and acquire Chychrun.

I'd be trying to get the Ducks to retain more than 25%, though.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 13 @ 7:40 PM ET
Mrazek + Robertson + 2nd for Gibson and Retain 3 million til contract expires!
- n8butts

that second would be in 2026 ish
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
Well if such a proposal works, it's because the Ducks cannot wait to get rid of that 6.4M cap hit for the next 5 seasons and they have lost faith in Gibson.

Which brings the question: Why would the Leafs want to acquire it, only in the hope Gibson regains his form.

Sounds like a pretty damn big risk.

- Scabeh

Pretty sure interested teams have analyzed the poop out of Gibson.

27 year old Elite goalies like that who don't have an injury history probably do not lose their talent like that.

It is most likely a product of his environment. I think he plays well on his new team next season.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 13 @ 7:50 PM ET
I don’t see it that way. If I’m dealing with the Ducks, I’m looking for a goalie. If there are other things I absolutely have to do to make a deal, then I consider those things but this is way too much.

If we’re looking for another forward, is Comtois the guy? We’re giving up two forwards for a rental.

I’ve said before I’d rather deal with Mrazek separately, just buy him out or do a straight out trade. Adding such a negative value into an important trade makes getting a goalie - a top priority - unnecessarily complicated.

I’m talking more in general terms

- Canada Cup

Complicated for us armchair GMs to predict a trade yes.

Not for Dubas. A team who gets Mrazek will be a rebuilding team that could use some help getting the the cap floor...If the Ducks trade Gibson the Ducks are that team.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
Pretty sure interested teams have analyzed the poop out of Gibson.

27 year old Elite goalies like that who don't have an injury history probably do not lose their talent like that.

It is most likely a product of his environment. I think he plays well on his new team next season.

- Santo_44


Gibson has terrible body language when he gets scored on. Death stares at his teammates, eyerolls, etc. He's worn out his welcome in Anaheim.

Hard pass on this guy.
Vlad the Torturer
Montreal Canadiens
Location: لن تعرف موقعي ابدا
Joined: 01.18.2021

Jun 13 @ 8:24 PM ET
Yes.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:26 PM ET
Gibson has terrible body language when he gets scored on. Death stares at his teammates, eyerolls, etc. He's worn out his welcome in Anaheim.

Hard pass on this guy.

- fifty__missions

so who's next on the list?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:42 PM ET
Yeah, I don't think Gibson is a cap dump.

He's a really good goalie on a pretty bad team.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 13 @ 9:10 PM ET
Winnipeg brewery to Trotz: Free beer for life to coach Jets
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 13 @ 9:21 PM ET
Big inning for the jays!
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 13 @ 9:53 PM ET
Big inning for the jays!
- Fakepartofme

Remember when everyone wanted to trade Bichette?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
Remember when everyone wanted to trade Bichette?
- Canada Cup

Mitch Bichette
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:32 PM ET
Again the trade is...

Gibson 25 % retained / Comtois / 22nd & 10th OA for Willy / Kerfoot / Mrazek & Holl

- dozerD10

Ugh.
No thanks
Although I like shedding mrazek and holl.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:33 PM ET
Remember when everyone wanted to trade Bichette?
- Canada Cup

No?
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 14 @ 12:01 AM ET
I like Comtois. He's a guy I've talked about wanting before. So my opinion on him would probably be biased.

I mean, looking at the trade alone and nothing else, I'd say the Leafs probably win it easily. Even if they're giving up the best player. It creates a hole, yeah, but they should be able to patch them up with 3 1sts at their disposal. So getting a good goalie who has the ability to be great, and a player I like in Comtois, is good personnel additions. With the bonus of assets to try and acquire Chychrun.

I'd be trying to get the Ducks to retain more than 25%, though.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I wouldn’t touch Comtois unless I got a lot of assurances he was not one of the 8 tangled in the world jr scandal.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 14 @ 4:35 AM ET
At gas stations and mini marts you'll find rows of them for sale
Kool aid-filled statues of Kyle Dubas, screw his head off and drink like a vampire.
And I wonder, yeah I wonder
Will Dubas take the place of Jesus in a thousand years
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:51 AM ET
At gas stations and mini marts you'll find rows of them for sale
Kool aid-filled statues of Kyle Dubas, screw his head off and drink like a vampire.
And I wonder, yeah I wonder
Will Dubas take the place of Jesus in a thousand years

- Zezel

If Jesus comes back I bet he’ll be pissed at all these people professing love of him by wearing symbols of the torture device that was used to kill him.

(No, not stollen from Bill Burr at all)
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:58 AM ET
If Jesus comes back I bet he’ll be pissed at all these people professing love of him by wearing symbols of the torture device that was used to kill him.

(No, not stollen from Bill Burr at all)

- Canada Cup


Needs to be updated to electric chair or AR-15.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:01 AM ET
At gas stations and mini marts you'll find rows of them for sale
Kool aid-filled statues of Kyle Dubas, screw his head off and drink like a vampire.
And I wonder, yeah I wonder
Will Dubas take the place of Jesus in a thousand years

- Zezel


Every Shrove Tuesday, Dubas will come out from his tomb and if he sees his shadow he will be able to tell us how many more weeks of winter we will have.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 14 @ 8:07 AM ET
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
Last 3 seasons

Goalie 1
70 gms
.903
-10.5 gsaa
quality starts 47%

Goalie B
140 gms
.903
-19.3 gsaa
quality starts 46%

to me these should have similar trade value.. when contracts considered


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:31 AM ET
Last 3 seasons

Goalie 1
70 gms
.903
-10.5 gsaa
quality starts 47%

Goalie B
140 gms
.903
-19.3 gsaa
quality starts 46%

to me these should have similar trade value.. when contracts considered

- senstroll


Invalid. You should be either progressing numerically or alphabetically. You can’t go goalie 1, goalie b and expect to be taken seriously on a place known for its intellectual rigour like, oh look at that butterfly
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:33 AM ET
Invalid. You should be either progressing numerically or alphabetically. You can’t go goalie 1, goalie b and expect to be taken seriously on a place known for its intellectual rigour like, oh look at that butterfly
- Canada Cup


hold on, adding goalie ampersand
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:43 AM ET
Last 3 seasons

Goalie 1
70 gms
.903
-10.5 gsaa
quality starts 47%

Goalie B
140 gms
.903
-19.3 gsaa
quality starts 46%

to me these should have similar trade value.. when contracts considered

- senstroll



Is one of the two Petr Mrazek?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:44 AM ET
hold on, adding goalie ampersand
- senstroll

Sorry. I don’t mean to derail your important work but I’m kind of known as the kwality control guy here.
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