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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 16 @ 8:14 PM ET
Sad that Mike Weber's brother Shea won't be coming to the Sabres
- TheSabresTaco


How does that trade benefit Vegas?

Is weber healthy enough to play next season?

Seemed destined to be a cap floor move for the Sabres, how does this benefit a cashed strapped team?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jun 16 @ 8:21 PM ET
How does that trade benefit Vegas?

Is weber healthy enough to play next season?

Seemed destined to be a cap floor move for the Sabres, how does this benefit a cashed strapped team?

- Boss34

Weber is on LTIR, so his cap hit can be put aside once season starts. Vegas is clearing Dadonovโ€™s cap hit by doing this.
(I think)
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
Weber is on LTIR, so his cap hit can be put aside once season starts. Vegas is clearing Dadonovโ€™s cap hit by doing this.
(I think)

- Ratsreign


Ok, thank you ๐Ÿ‘

Is there any actual cost to either the knights or habs?
Out of pocket expense?

Did the knights outbid the Sabres for Weber's contract ๐Ÿค”
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 8:44 PM ET
Ok, thank you ๐Ÿ‘

Is there any actual cost to either the knights or habs?
Out of pocket expense?

Did the knights outbid the Sabres for Weber's contract ๐Ÿค”

- Boss34


Some info to share from the good people at CapFriendly on the trade and why Vegas did it.

Why did VGK make this trade?

For LTI teams, trading a healthy player for an LTIR contract is money in/money out, where the team effectively creates cap space equal to the amount of the healthy player, VGK made $5M in cap space

Past example: TBL/CHI Johnson for Seabrook

To clear up a common misconception:

A team does NOT need to be below the upper limit to start the season on LTIR.

They can use the LTIR training-camp equation on the day prior to season start and place players on LTIR while already above the limit.

https://t.co/HJNDm7O3Sm

https://twitter.com/CapFr...rzbXx1MP5Tbe8npWXcFQ&s=19
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 8:49 PM ET
ahh thanks for clarification. The tweet made it seem like each team was set to make a lot of money.
- ImThatGuy


Sabres probably get something in the 25m ballpark from revenue sharing. Little tough to guess with the pandemic + expansion factoring in. They were 31st in attendance. Would bet they report losses last season. How much of that is real vs accounting games is a tougher question.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 8:50 PM ET
Ok, thank you ๐Ÿ‘

Is there any actual cost to either the knights or habs?
Out of pocket expense?

Did the knights outbid the Sabres for Weber's contract ๐Ÿค”

- Boss34


Forgot to add, Weber's actual dollars owed each of his remaining 4 seasons is very low ($3M-$1M-$1M-$1M).

Vegas is actually buying low on cap space.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Forgot to add, Weber's actual dollars owed each of his remaining 4 seasons is very low ($3M-$1M-$1M-$1M).

Vegas is actually buying low on cap space.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber

- kingcong39


Bit surprised there wasn't a better way to dump Dadonov's deal. Guess they are running low on draft picks.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Bit surprised there wasn't a better way to dump Dadonov's deal. Guess they are running low on draft picks.
- Lunaion


Considering the reversed deadline day deal had Vegas adding a 2nd round pick to get rid of Dadonov's contract, this feels like a better deal for Vegas.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 9:11 PM ET
๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป for the @NHLFlyers players!

https://twitter.com/BDubi...TdSBsRQVxzUfBY__MD4g&s=19

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
Considering the reversed deadline day deal that had Vegas adding a 2nd round pick to get rid of Dadonov's contract, this feels like a better deal for Vegas.
- kingcong39


Could be. Have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Dadanov is a decent player with 1 year left, but 6.5m of cash, where Weber is a 4 year headache. It's a great deal from Montreal's side and easy to see why KA wouldn't be allowed to discuss it.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jun 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
Opinions vary. But McAvoy IS one of the best, Power could be. It's a trade I'd personally make, full well knowing Power's potential.
- TheSabresTaco

You are on drugs!!
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jun 16 @ 9:25 PM ET
Debrincat too expensive, Paternak is the better player.

Also, Power for McAvoy Taco? Yikes. I like McAvoy but Im not trading Power for anyone right now

- BeadyEyedDouche

Anyone who wants to trade power s or dalhin get you head out of you A$$$
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jun 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
Donโ€™t u pick on 36 !! If you do step up an get some!! And you wonโ€™t like it!!
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jun 16 @ 9:31 PM ET
Rsh I am at nites of columbus basghetti diinner 5-8. You don't show up!
- Hank Balling

You want to meet me time and place!! Nice to see a hockey player!! The rest of them are want to bees ๐Ÿ
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Rizzo baby!! Way to walk it off
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Rizzo baby!! Way to walk it off
- Buff36



๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 16 @ 9:54 PM ET
๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
- Powerslave

Nice pick-up game by the pen with Sevy going into Covid protocol
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 16 @ 10:02 PM ET
Forgot to add, Weber's actual dollars owed each of his remaining 4 seasons is very low ($3M-$1M-$1M-$1M).

Vegas is actually buying low on cap space.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber

- kingcong39


Thank you, much appreciated ๐Ÿ‘
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Nice pick-up game by the pen with Sevy going into Covid protocol
- Buff36



I didn't watch. But I looked at the box score and was like, wtf?

Big series this weekend.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:21 PM ET
Sad that Mike Weber's brother Shea won't be coming to the Sabres
- TheSabresTaco

A+
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 16 @ 10:27 PM ET
I didn't watch. But I looked at the box score and was like, wtf?

Big series this weekend.

- Powerslave

Hope homie put on his Judge footies with those Yankees PJ's with the help Jays have gotten.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryanโ€ฆ.that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:34 PM ET
Anyone who wants to trade power s or dalhin get you head out of you A$$$
- Rsh



I att jp bulfesthers you here not here when you here?!!!?! Show face your now!!!
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:34 PM ET
Bills TC schedule announced. Finally
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:43 AM ET
Weber is on LTIR, so his cap hit can be put aside once season starts. Vegas is clearing Dadonovโ€™s cap hit by doing this.
(I think)

- Ratsreign


Thatโ€™s exactly it
Very OBVIOUS move
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:01 AM ET

- Gr8daygo


I just had my kids watch that last night
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