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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
Why would they do that??
- TurdFergeson

I think that is the joke there Turdy....
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
HB Trade arguments.

https://twitter.com/RexCh...tatus/1538917955530108929
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
WAR IS the most useless stat in hockey. JFresh is a clown
- CanuckDon


Yeah, his charts are flawed
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
How about Barzal straight up?
- Shuswap Wap




Yeah, I’d do that (as a Canuck fan).
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
I think that is the joke there Turdy....
- carsonagenic

Hard to tell in this thread…
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
Washigton
JT Miller
for
Conner McMichael
Vincent Iorio
1st

- carsonagenic


McMichael is pretty meh to me. Don’t know much about Iorio
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Isles fans love Dobson, some think he's their new #1 dman ahead of really solid dmen like Pelech and Pulock so that's a bold statement

They laugh and hang up if you offer Boeser for Dobson

edit: saw your edit..dont think they'd do Miller for Dobson straight up either.

- Nucker101


Maybe not, but they just fired the reining Jack Adams winner, and they expect to be cup contenders. So they will do something… I’d take either of the P’s instead of Dobber
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
NYI
Miller
for
Oliver Wahlstrom
Simon Holmstrom
cap dump Varlomov UFA next year
and a 1st

- carsonagenic


How good is Holmstrom?

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
Maybe not, but they just fired the reining Jack Adams winner, and they expect to be cup contenders. So they will do something… I’d take either of the P’s instead of Dobber
- 1970vintage


All 3 are great, imagine if they kept Toews too. What a top 4
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
You are sniffing glue man. They wouldn’t do Dobson straight across for Miller let alone add a first.
- TurdFergeson


If I were the Isles, I wouldn’t do that deal. In fact, if I were the GM of any team other than the Canucks I wouldn’t give up anything of substance for Miller. My best offer would be like what Florida paid for Giroux.

But as a Canucks fan, I hope for a dynamic player on the cusp of NHL greatness AND a high draft pick!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
How good is Holmstrom?
- Nucker101

An offensively skilled player who competes hard. Holmström is a good skater and stands out with really good hands and impressive puckhandling skills. Quite shifty and a player that can do the unexpected offensively. Has a good wrister and his two-way game is underrated. Great character and team player. (EP 2019)

Father: Jonas Holmström

He is trusted to be on the ice in all situations and he is just as good on the box play as he is on the powerplay, Hockeyprospect.com 2019
He has elite acceleration and top speed and he can handle the puck and stickhandle his way through traffic while maintaining high speed, Future Considerations 2019
With the puck on his stick, he can be dazzling, whether deking past defenders, or fooling them with passes from the behind the net, McKeen's Hockey 2019
A deft skater with some explosiveness to his game.. has remarkable passing ability and likes to set up teammates from below the goal line, Draftin Europe 2018
He put up 43 points as an AHL rookie
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:42 PM ET
If I were the Isles, I wouldn’t do that deal. In fact, if I were the GM of any team other than the Canucks I wouldn’t give up anything of substance for Miller. My best offer would be like what Florida paid for Giroux.

But as a Canucks fan, I hope for a dynamic player on the cusp of NHL greatness AND a high draft pick!

- 1970vintage

Giroux is 5 years older and making 4 mil+ more....
I think Miller is worth more than Giroux, but hey you do you
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 1:46 PM ET
You are sniffing glue man. They wouldn’t do Dobson straight across for Miller let alone add a first.
- TurdFergeson

It’s bath salts. Most posters have been off glue for years
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:46 PM ET
McMichael is pretty meh to me. Don’t know much about Iorio
- Nucker101

Iorio on the breakout is basically Han Solo with a blaster: Well-placed laser-beam after well-placed laser-beam. He misdirects opponents by looking relaxed, even vulnerable, before firing. He looks off his target, skates into the lane, then holds the deception until the puck’s released, even for long-range, three-line passes. Nice breakdown
19 yrs old D 6'3 201 from Coquitlam
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
Washigton
JT Miller
for
Conner McMichael
Vincent Iorio
1st

- carsonagenic

I literally did that trade in a mock with Washington fan, but I got 2 1sts. 20oa this year and their next years
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
I literally did that trade in a mock with Washington fan, but I got 2 1sts. 20oa this year and their next years
- Retinalz

Nice I still would like developing prospect though.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
Giroux is 5 years older and making 4 mil+ more....
I think Miller is worth more than Giroux, but hey you do you

- carsonagenic


But he will be a UFA in one year, and if he’s going to test free agency I could get him for cash, and still have my draft selections and prospects. I just don’t believe he’s the kind of difference maker worth trading a bunch of futures away for.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
It’s bath salts. Most posters have been off glue for years
- CanuckDon

Mix them up and make a cocktail
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 1:58 PM ET
But he will be a UFA in one year, and if he’s going to test free agency I could get him for cash, and still have my draft selections and prospects. I just don’t believe he’s the kind of difference maker worth trading a bunch of futures away for.
- 1970vintage

GM's disagree normally when its trade deadline time and the Stanley Cup playoff revenue is calling or they get fired option is on the table. I'm just basing most of my opinion on previous deals. I'm not the idiot GM in the real world making most of these deals, yet they happen every year. I know as Canucks fans, we generally don't get things our way, but I still don't think the options I have listed are too out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully the Canucks don't pull a Canuck and let Miller
A) Walk for nothing
or
B) Sign him to a 8 yr 9 million dollar deal.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
GM's disagree normally when its trade deadline time and the Stanley Cup playoff revenue is calling or they get fired option is on the table. I'm just basing most of my opinion on previous deals. I'm not the idiot GM in the real world making most of these deals, yet they happen every year. I know as Canucks fans, we generally don't get things our way, but I still don't think the options I have listed are too out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully the Canucks don't pull a Canuck and let Miller
A) Walk for nothing
or
B) Sign him to a 8 yr 9 million dollar deal.

- carsonagenic


I agree, if he’s on the market someone will bite.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yeah, his charts are flawed
- Nucker101

A lot less flawed then most of the player evaluations in here.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
An offensively skilled player who competes hard. Holmström is a good skater and stands out with really good hands and impressive puckhandling skills. Quite shifty and a player that can do the unexpected offensively. Has a good wrister and his two-way game is underrated. Great character and team player. (EP 2019)

Father: Jonas Holmström

He is trusted to be on the ice in all situations and he is just as good on the box play as he is on the powerplay, Hockeyprospect.com 2019
He has elite acceleration and top speed and he can handle the puck and stickhandle his way through traffic while maintaining high speed, Future Considerations 2019
With the puck on his stick, he can be dazzling, whether deking past defenders, or fooling them with passes from the behind the net, McKeen's Hockey 2019
A deft skater with some explosiveness to his game.. has remarkable passing ability and likes to set up teammates from below the goal line, Draftin Europe 2018
He put up 43 points as an AHL rookie

- carsonagenic

70 previous games before this season didn't count?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
It seems "rental" players are in vogue, kind of debunks a couple of the experts in here!

2m
Elliotte Friedman on
@DonnieandDhali
on the Canucks : Lots of teams are around VAN. Capitals lost Backstrom, I have heard Kadri and Miller connected to them,
Miller will be a big contract, VAN is worried about term.

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:24 PM ET
A lot less flawed then most of the player evaluations in here.
- manvanfan

You being the exception, of course.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 2:27 PM ET
It seems "rental" players are in vogue, kind of debunks a couple of the experts in here!

2m
Elliotte Friedman on
@DonnieandDhali
on the Canucks : Lots of teams are around VAN. Capitals lost Backstrom, I have heard Kadri and Miller connected to them,
Miller will be a big contract, VAN is worried about term.

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports

- VanHockeyGuy

Some dumb GM will pay Miller way more than he is worth.
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