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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:04 PM ET
From Twitter...

Elliotte linking Capitals to Miller and then Dreger reporting Canucks are listening on trades for Miller.
theguvna
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 10.24.2019

Jun 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
Thank you Carol
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
Lyle Richardson wrote today on the NJ Bleacher Report that they should offer the #2 overall and a young player/prospect for Miller. They could use that to get Slafkovsky or Nemec if they want a Dman.
- Minnyhock

2 OA....nice
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
Lyle Richardson wrote today on the NJ Bleacher Report that they should offer the #2 overall and a young player/prospect for Miller. They could use that to get Slafkovsky or Nemec if they want a Dman.
- Minnyhock



If Miller gets traded come in here right away for the emotional meltdown.

It will be epic!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:08 PM ET
Iirc, I was a big fan of trying to do everything the Canucks could, to get Byram, a 6'1 190 lb defenseman, you were the one telling me he was overrated.
- Reubenkincade

You try to do everything to get every BC born defender on the Canucks.

You also believe that Jiricek is without a doubt a #1 D but I haven't seen that conveyed anywhere else otherwise he would most undoubtedly be going #1 in this draft.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 21 @ 6:09 PM ET
If Miller gets traded come in here right away for the emotional meltdown.

It will be epic!

- VanHockeyGuy



That’s what HB is for
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
If Miller gets traded come in here right away for the emotional meltdown.

It will be epic!

- VanHockeyGuy

If we get a legit good deal for him it won't be a meltdown, but interesting for sure
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:13 PM ET
You try to do everything to get every BC born defender on the Canucks.

You also believe that Jiricek is without a doubt a #1 D but I haven't seen that conveyed anywhere else otherwise he would most undoubtedly be going #1 in this draft.

- manvanfan


Seems like a great prospect, probably top 10.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
Lyle Richardson wrote today on the NJ Bleacher Report that they should offer the #2 overall and a young player/prospect for Miller. They could use that to get Slafkovsky or Nemec if they want a Dman.
- Minnyhock

If it's true that NJ is willing to give Jonny Hockey 10M a season for term. I don't see why they wouldn't do that for Miller also on an extension.

I don't like Slaf as much as someone. Not saying he is overrated but he's at 5 for me and not higher.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
If we get a legit good deal for him it won't be a meltdown, but interesting for sure
- carsonagenic


Horvat would for sure.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
Oh I get that, but come on some of these are Eklundish. It’s comical.
Miller has peaked, it’s a slow downhill slide from here. Flames should be interested in a couple years.

- K-man25


They will have to replace JG when he walks this year.......
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
You try to do everything to get every BC born defender on the Canucks.

You also believe that Jiricek is without a doubt a #1 D but I haven't seen that conveyed anywhere else otherwise he would most undoubtedly be going #1 in this draft.

- manvanfan

Lots of #1 D don’t go first in the draft, just look at past drafts.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
They will have to replace JG when he walks this year.......

- SMP8719

Probably, he’s going to test FA. I’d say the Rangers if they can find some cap.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
If it's true that NJ is willing to give Jonny Hockey 10M a season for term. I don't see why they wouldn't do that for Miller also on an extension.

I don't like Slaf as much as someone. Not saying he is overrated but he's at 5 for me and not higher.

- manvanfan


I think Slaf has the biggest bust potential of the top 5. But I think he could be a more physical Nichuchkin.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
I think Slaf has the biggest bust potential of the top 5. But I think he could be a more physical Nichuchkin.
- Minnyhock


Worse than Virtanen or Juolevi?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
Lots of #1 D don’t go first in the draft, just look at past drafts.
- K-man25

When you say lots do you mean less than 20%?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 6:24 PM ET
When you say lots do you mean less than 20%?
- manvanfan

Name 5 that were taken 1oa in the last 25 years.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 21 @ 6:25 PM ET
You try to do everything to get every BC born defender on the Canucks.

You also believe that Jiricek is without a doubt a #1 D but I haven't seen that conveyed anywhere else otherwise he would most undoubtedly be going #1 in this draft.

- manvanfan


I like Jiricek better than Nemec. But Nemec is the safer pick with Jiricek already having a serious injury

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 6:29 PM ET
From Twitter...

Elliotte linking Capitals to Miller and then Dreger reporting Canucks are listening on trades for Miller.

- VanHockeyGuy



He sometimes says thigs that he thinks makes sense without any sources so context is important when quoting him
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
I think Slaf has the biggest bust potential of the top 5. But I think he could be a more physical Nichuchkin.
- Minnyhock

Byron Bader analytics guy has been pretty harsh on Slaf. Saying he looks more like Nichushkin and Nich was good value at 10oa at 27 years old. Bader's highest profile of him is Rantanen who believe's is value of 3oa but Rantanen was the extreme outlier among the 405 similar profiles.

Corey Pronman has compared him to Rick Nash.

Nash was certainly worthy of #1 in his draft year but that wasn't the best draft in the end.

I don't think he's a bust but I think there's a lot of hype because he brings the dream of size and speed and skill potential.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 21 @ 6:33 PM ET
Worse than Virtanen or Juolevi?
- VanHockeyGuy


I think Slav will be good. Just think among Wright, Cooley Nemec and Jiricik, he is the least sure bet. But I’ve been wrong before.


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 6:37 PM ET
Byron Bader analytics guy has been pretty harsh on Slaf. Saying he looks more like Nichushkin and Nich was good value at 10oa at 27 years old. Bader's highest profile of him is Rantanen who believe's is value of 3oa but Rantanen was the extreme outlier among the 405 similar profiles.

Corey Pronman has compared him to Rick Nash.

Nash was certainly worthy of #1 in his draft year but that wasn't the best draft in the end.

I don't think he's a bust but I think there's a lot of hype because he brings the dream of size and speed and skill potential.

- manvanfan



explain this...because a rantanen caliber player should be #1 overall in this draft.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 21 @ 6:38 PM ET
Byron Bader analytics guy has been pretty harsh on Slaf. Saying he looks more like Nichushkin and Nich was good value at 10oa at 27 years old. Bader's highest profile of him is Rantanen who believe's is value of 3oa but Rantanen was the extreme outlier among the 405 similar profiles.

Corey Pronman has compared him to Rick Nash.

Nash was certainly worthy of #1 in his draft year but that wasn't the best draft in the end.

I don't think he's a bust but I think there's a lot of hype because he brings the dream of size and speed and skill potential.

- manvanfan


Yeah, I think the Rantanen potential is a reach but I could see his ceiling being between Nichuchkin and Rantanen.

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 6:41 PM ET
IF we got the 2 OA for Miller
Trade it to CBJ for the 6th and 12 OA
Then the Canucks have 3 firsts
Hopefully 1 of D Jirichek or Nemec at 6
C Marco Kasper at 12
and
D Pickering at 15
Win the Draft...
Let the day drinking begin!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
explain this...because a rantanen caliber player should be #1 overall in this draft.
- Nucker101

Ya no kidding
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