Montreal gave up a 1st (27 OA) and a 2nd for Christen Dvorak...
What is the conversion rate of Dvoraks to a Miller?
- carsonagenic

Just because Bergevin pulls off a bonehead deal does not mean any team should follow that lead. Not that offer sheeting another teams bust is all that brilliant either

Not trying to burst the bubble but he's 26 and last season was his first scoring at a ppg clip, and that was only the regular season. If he can carve out a spot top nine great. All he cost was money. Keep the bar low and hopefully get rewarded
- Hardbalz

No bubble to burst. 3rd line energy guy and PK with possible upside. 25 points for under a million on 1 year deal. Great signing.

Just because Bergevin pulls off a bonehead deal does not mean any team should follow that lead. Not that offer sheeting another teams bust is all that brilliant either
- Hardbalz

99 point C is worth how much? Look at the Mantha deadline deal that was posted as well.

So I can't spark a conversation on what JT Miller might actually be worth? I put up a couple of examples of 1st being traded at the deadline of 2021, and JT is way better than any player listed. I got called a Homer by KY man with a quick throwout trade idea, and it just spured me to ask what is he worth? Once again has to be more than what we gave up, and by quite a bit IMO.
- carsonagenic

I think it’s more complicated than just he’s better than that guy who got traded for this.

With one year to UFA and a significant raise coming any team acquiring him needs cap space, the kinds of things Vancouver would want in return and be a place he wants to play long term.

Vancouver already has two of those three things… the list of teams that have all three is probably pretty short.

The last thing I would say is just because some other GM’s were stupid and panicked at the deadline doesn’t mean the Canucks will/can get a GM she’ll out a high first, a blue chip prospect and a player and another prospect.

I think he’s worth a 1st and a young player with potential. Anything more would be gravy. Or sign him. 8 years, $7m per. Or 5 years, $8.5m per- both are too much in my opinion, but the team could probably work with those numbers.

99 point C is worth how much? Look at the Mantha deadline deal that was posted as well.
- carsonagenic

Mantha’s a decent comparison, similar draft position, similar numbers coming up. He’s two years younger, and could potentially do the same thing Miller did…

Mantha’s a decent comparison, similar draft position, similar numbers coming up. He’s two years younger, and could potentially do the same thing Miller did…
- 1970vintage

As Minivan pointed out, a few days ago, those same Washington Capitals just lost their #1 centre to hip resurfacing surgery. He is more than likely done, which puts him on LTIR.
Could Washington make a pitch for Miller?

Getting a decent young nhl player in McMichael, a decent defenseman prospect in Iorio and their 1st in 2023 would be a decent return.
Maybe add in a 2nd or 3rd in this year's draft.

As Minivan pointed out, a few days ago, those same Washington Capitals just lost their #1 centre to hip resurfacing surgery. He is more than likely done, which puts him on LTIR.
Could Washington make a pitch for Miller?

Getting a decent young nhl player in McMichael, a decent defenseman prospect in Iorio and their 1st in 2023 would be a decent return.
Maybe add in a 2nd or 3rd in this year's draft.
- Reubenkincade

Byrum and Newhook

Byrum and Newhook
- Jkuzzi

That would be excellent, but, would you do that, if you were Colorado?

That would be excellent, but, would you do that, if you were Colorado?
- Reubenkincade

Thats a tough one and I dont think they have the cap room for it. They will be losing quite a bit of depth this off season and would be better off just resigning Kadri. But Washington might be just the place as Backstrom will be LTIR for the rest of his days. They just resigned Ovi so they kind of have to still compete.

That would be excellent, but, would you do that, if you were Colorado?
- Reubenkincade

Yes yes I would lol

Could any of you twitter guys post the Jfresh stats on Ethan Bear, please.
Looked to me like he was a decent 4th , maybe 5th defenseman.

Could any of you twitter guys post the Jfresh stats on Ethan Bear, please.
Looked to me like he was a decent 4th , maybe 5th defenseman.
- Reubenkincade

This?

As Minivan pointed out, a few days ago, those same Washington Capitals just lost their #1 centre to hip resurfacing surgery. He is more than likely done, which puts him on LTIR.
Could Washington make a pitch for Miller?

Getting a decent young nhl player in McMichael, a decent defenseman prospect in Iorio and their 1st in 2023 would be a decent return.
Maybe add in a 2nd or 3rd in this year's draft.
- Reubenkincade

I’m all for trading Miller to reset things and add some quality young players/prospects. I’m also good with signing him to an extension and moving other players to do that, albeit getting back less quality/quantity.

The only thing that would annoy me is going into the season with Miller on an expiring deal. It’s a no win. If the team does well enough to be in a playoff position they can’t trade him before the deadline, and if they stink other teams will be acquiring a true rental. I don’t see his value getting any higher than it is right now.

That would be excellent, but, would you do that, if you were Colorado?
- Reubenkincade

Nope.

Yes yes I would lol
- Jkuzzi

I would think Colorado will be focusing on trading Girard, which also clears up capspace for trying to re-sign some key players.
IMO, Girard is kinda redundant in Colorado, with Makar,Byram and Toews.

This?



- VanHockeyGuy

Yes that was part of it. They had something on nhltraderumours that was a bit more in-depth, but wouldn't allow me to copy.

I’m all for trading Miller to reset things and add some quality young players/prospects. I’m also good with signing him to an extension and moving other players to do that, albeit getting back less quality/quantity.

The only thing that would annoy me is going into the season with Miller on an expiring deal. It’s a no win. If the team does well enough to be in a playoff position they can’t trade him before the deadline, and if they stink other teams will be acquiring a true rental. I don’t see his value getting any higher than it is right now.
- 1970vintage

This.

This?



- VanHockeyGuy

Looks like a great pickup if the cost is future considerations or just RFA signing. A 2 year 1.25 mil contract would make even Vantel happy.

I’m all for trading Miller to reset things and add some quality young players/prospects. I’m also good with signing him to an extension and moving other players to do that, albeit getting back less quality/quantity.

The only thing that would annoy me is going into the season with Miller on an expiring deal. It’s a no win. If the team does well enough to be in a playoff position they can’t trade him before the deadline, and if they stink other teams will be acquiring a true rental. I don’t see his value getting any higher than it is right now.
- 1970vintage

This is why they need to move him this off-season.

Looks like a great pickup if the cost is future considerations or just RFA signing. A 2 year 1.25 mil contract would make even Vantel happy.
- carsonagenic

At best he is 2nd pairing placeholder, at worst he becomes a call-up from Abbotsford. Well worth the gamble, if the price is right.

This.
- Marwood

Like JR mentioned the draft is when they'll have an idea what to do with Miller.

I’m all for trading Miller to reset things and add some quality young players/prospects. I’m also good with signing him to an extension and moving other players to do that, albeit getting back less quality/quantity.

The only thing that would annoy me is going into the season with Miller on an expiring deal. It’s a no win. If the team does well enough to be in a playoff position they can’t trade him before the deadline, and if they stink other teams will be acquiring a true rental. I don’t see his value getting any higher than it is right now.
- 1970vintage

The eternal Canuck fan fear. Can't deal him as we need him for the playoff push, and can't let him walk for nothing. Hopefully the new regime doesn't have Jimbenningitus and undecide themselves out of time.

Nope.
- 1970vintage

Me neither.

At best he is 2nd pairing placeholder, at worst he becomes a call-up from Abbotsford. Well worth the gamble, if the price is right.
- Reubenkincade

The very definition of a "Value Contract"

The eternal Canuck fan fear. can't deal him as we need him for the playoff push, and can't let him walk for nothing. Hopefully the new regime doesn't have Jimbenningitus and undecide themselves out of time.
- carsonagenic