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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
https://sabrenoise.com/20...ios-tyler-bertuzzi/amp/1/
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
Haven't done enough analysis to really give a proper tier list so I'll give you the 10 ive got so far, subject to a lot of change if I do a proper write up.

1.Nemec
2. Wright
3. Cooley
4. Kemell
5. Mateychuk
6. Nazar
7. Yurov
8. Savoie
9. Jiricek
10. Lekkerimaki

Honorable mentions, Isaac Howard, Liam Ohgren, and Juraj Slafkovsky

- Michael Ghofrani


If you're correct in your modeling...there are some good value picks based on where the public Evaluators have them ranked!!

Based on your comments, your evaluation is based on numbers and does not factor in the soft skills...some call them character traits. If true, then I think that is a significant limitation.

I read an interesting article the other day, think it was the Pronman / Weller debate on several Prospects they have ranked differently...an NHL Scout was talking about the importance of uncovering psychological factors from these prospects to best determine if they have the mental fortitude to excel..have the commitment to the absolute best they can be. That seems to be a critical element to factor in.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
How far do you have Jiricek falling. And if he fell to 12 with Columbus would you go and get him.
- Buff36


Wouldn't you almost have to grab him at 9, if he was there?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:14 PM ET
Miller is my favorite Sabre. Does retiring his # make sense?
- chilliard77
No.

There should only be 2 numbers up there, 11 and 39. Maybe 89, due to the background story and the amount of success he had not only here, but throughout the entirety of his NHL career.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:16 PM ET
1.Juraj Slafkovsky
2.Shane Wright
3.Matthew Savoie
4.simon nemec
5 .Logan Cooley
6.Jiri Kulich
7.Danila Yurov
8.Jimmy Snuggerud
9.Frank Nazar
10. Gleb Trikozov

- gerbe75pts


There is absolutely no reason he should be falling in the draft. Number 2 in my rankings. and if he starts falling to six or seven, I hope the sabres are on the phones.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 25 @ 7:21 PM ET
Where does miro go ?
And would you take him ?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:28 PM ET
Wouldn't you almost have to grab him at 9, if he was there?
- Lunaion


Barring Gauthier being there too, then yes.
It would seem if Jiricek is there at 9, it is highly unlikely Gauthier would also be there too (so that is highly doubtful), unless several surprises occured like in Gofranni's and Gerbe's lists.

Go Bolts!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
Where does miro go ?
And would you take him ?

- Anderdog


This is the question I wanted to asked Michael and Gerg's, but I wasn't online then
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:32 PM ET
This is the question I wanted to asked Michael and Gerg's, but I wasn't online then
- IonSabres


Edit: I'd gamble with him at 16 for sure.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
How far do you have Jiricek falling. And if he fell to 12 with Columbus would you go and get him.
- Buff36


I have him not Living up to expectations like olli juolevi

That's just my ranking he's most likely going 1-6

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
Wouldn't you almost have to grab him at 9, if he was there?
- Lunaion

Well I would, but I have been high on Jiricek for awhile. Don't think some people think a high pick on a Dman is necessary. I have him 4th behind Wright Slafkovsky Cooley.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
Barring Gauthier being there too, then yes.
It would seem if Jiricek is there at 9, it is highly unlikely Gauthier would also be there too (so that is highly doubtful), unless several surprises occured like in Gofranni's and Gerbe's lists.

Go Bolts!

- IonSabres


Maybe, haven't seen many people have Gauthier ahead of Jiricek. Savoie + Jiricek slipping would get interesting.

Someone's going to slip to us, almost no question there....but will they take Nazar anyways?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
Where does miro go ?
And would you take him ?

- Anderdog


28 a lot of people will disagree but a whole year of development will be gone and his body is most likely broken down right now with no Training at the gym every other day

You can't just snip your figures and boom be back to the top 5 pick You once were.

But I truly believe he will be a Inspirational story and work his ass off and dominate in 4 years

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Gerbe I'm serious, if your dad works for the Sabres you should try to become a scout for them because we would be absolutely set so like seriously why aren't you the head scout?
- BeadyEyedDouche


When you say Shinkaruk is the best thing since slice bread you have no input šŸ˜„
Freddie krug
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dryden, ON
Joined: 11.17.2020

Jun 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
Gerbe I'm serious, if your dad works for the Sabres you should try to become a scout for them because we would be absolutely set so like seriously why aren't you the head scout?
- BeadyEyedDouche


I'm sure that's exactly how it works. Dad works for the Sabres so son automatically should be head scout. I hope this is a bad joke.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 8:51 PM ET
This could really turn out to be the funnest draft to watch in awhile. Looking forward to seeing McKenzie come out with his final rankings.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 8:55 PM ET
https://www.eliteprospect...ter/2022/tsn-bob-mckenzie
Mid-term rankings, interesting to see what changes with McKenzie.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:07 PM ET
When you say Shinkaruk is the best thing since slice bread you have no input šŸ˜„
- gerbe75pts


Sean Day called, he'd like a word.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:23 PM ET
Sean Day called, he'd like a word.
- Wetbandit1


šŸ˜„
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 25 @ 10:52 PM ET
If you're correct in your modeling...there are some good value picks based on where the public Evaluators have them ranked!!

Based on your comments, your evaluation is based on numbers and does not factor in the soft skills...some call them character traits. If true, then I think that is a significant limitation.

I read an interesting article the other day, think it was the Pronman / Weller debate on several Prospects they have ranked differently...an NHL Scout was talking about the importance of uncovering psychological factors from these prospects to best determine if they have the mental fortitude to excel..have the commitment to the absolute best they can be. That seems to be a critical element to factor in.

- IonSabres


Yeah 100%, I don't watch these guys so I dont wanna make guesses based on what I hear, so my scope is limited but I try my best to find statistical profiles that reflect the type of player whose game could translate at the NHL level, based on past producers. But that's only one element, and this list is very much un refined. Im missing some data for certain leagues, both regular and advanced.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:10 PM ET
28 a lot of people will disagree but a whole year of development will be gone and his body is most likely broken down right now with no Training at the gym every other day

You can't just snip your figures and boom be back to the top 5 pick You once were.

But I truly believe he will be a Inspirational story and work his ass off and dominate in 4 years

- gerbe75pts



Thanks gerbe

I think if he's there at 16 I would take him
Agree on his conditioning but his talent is to good to pass up just my opinion.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:11 PM ET
https://sabrenoise.com/2022/06/24/buffalo-sabres-scenarios-tyler-bertuzzi/amp/1/
- Buff36



Like the player
But not at them cost
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 26 @ 7:34 AM ET
https://buffalonews.com/s...ec-986e-637b951e36d0.html
Good Read!! What looked to be a year where Rochester could be short on prospects. Adams and Co. have done a very good job killing that lull. Should be a nice steady stream coming through Rochester the next 5 or so years.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:06 AM ET
Yeah 100%, I don't watch these guys so I dont wanna make guesses based on what I hear, so my scope is limited but I try my best to find statistical profiles that reflect the type of player whose game could translate at the NHL level, based on past producers. But that's only one element, and this list is very much un refined. Im missing some data for certain leagues, both regular and advanced.
- Michael Ghofrani


It's fine with your scope, and there is value there in that I think your evaluation in more pure...it may highlight guys who skills propel them higher.
I like different analysis that are different in scope.
Keep it up!
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:18 AM ET
Like the player
But not at them cost

- Anderdog


Especially with one year left and he can walk. It does seem steepā€¦ I also want to see a year of healthy Mittsā€¦

Does the olo deal with one of Johnson/Portillo make sense.

Olo will need a deal and Gerbe has hinted they have similar players.

Again, Iā€™d like to keep olo as a ā€œgood vibesā€ signing. Also realize we are a last place team, you need to give to get and good vibes probably arenā€™t winning the cup.
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