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arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 9:43 PM ET
Same here. If Bergy retires, their in a tough spot.
- MJL


Marchand also got surgery on both hips. Cant see him being his normal self even when he returns at his age.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
Would not mind the flyers looking at nichushkin…I think he is 27, which is old for the current scenario but like his game
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 22 @ 10:16 PM ET
What's Cassidy, filet mignon? Or does he not count because of short time of availability
- MJL


I don’t think I saw the Bruins enough to make a good judgement. He alienated some of his players but he got a lot out of them. I remember catching them late in the regular season a few times and thinking that they were the best team in the league as far as being disciplined in playing within their system. As you say, it’s a short sample but it looks like filet. Porterhouse for sure.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
I guess the refs are letting them play....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:01 AM ET
Would not mind the flyers looking at nichushkin…I think he is 27, which is old for the current scenario but like his game
- wcorvette

expect only 20 max goals from him here
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:20 AM ET
He's a complete player.
- Flyerfan2868


As long as we ignore his deficiencies coming out of his own zone and his inexplicable weakness as a PP QB.



But yes, I agree, Torts will play the ever-loving poop out of Ivan, just like every other coach who has been thru here lately. Same with RR. Torts rode Seth Jones and David Savard for years. Ivan and RR will be those kinds of players for him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 7:49 AM ET
As long as we ignore his deficiencies coming out of his own zone and his inexplicable weakness as a PP QB.



But yes, I agree, Torts will play the ever-loving poop out of Ivan, just like every other coach who has been thru here lately. Same with RR. Torts rode Seth Jones and David Savard for years. Ivan and RR will be those kinds of players for him.

- Tomahawk



He won't have much of a choice. Especially if Ellis is not available. A coach can only play who is on the roster. That's not a coaching issue. It's a GM issue.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:45 AM ET

Good stuff

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 23 @ 8:45 AM ET
He won't have much of a choice. Especially if Ellis is not available. A coach can only play who is on the roster. That's not a coaching issue. It's a GM issue.
- MJL

Nick Seeler top 6 baby
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:54 AM ET
The more I see, the more my mind is settling in to the prospect of Torts coaching this team.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:06 AM ET
Good stuff
- MBFlyerfan


The part where Torts benches him for being out of position is messed up. Torts goes back and checks the tape and turns out Hartsy was never out of position on a single shift. Then proceeds to tell Hartsy he still just doesn't trust him on the ice despite the evidence. Like wut?

The rest are classic Torts anecdotes which are always entertaining. You might enjoy this one too, especially the part about Brian Boyle:

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:14 AM ET
The part where Torts benches him for being out of position is messed up. Torts goes back and checks the tape and turns out Hartsy was never out of position on a single shift. Then proceeds to tell Hartsy he still just doesn't trust him on the ice despite the evidence. Like wut?

The rest are classic Torts anecdotes which are always entertaining. You might enjoy this one too, especially the part about Brian Boyle:


- Tomahawk



Haha because he knows Hartsy sucks in his own end regardless of whether or not he is in the right position.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Jun 23 @ 9:18 AM ET
https://twitter.com/PuckR...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
I didn’t count Cassidy because he was on and off the market right away.
- SuperSchennBros


so...minute steak?

lol sorry, I'll be quiet now
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
As long as we ignore his deficiencies coming out of his own zone and his inexplicable weakness as a PP QB.



But yes, I agree, Torts will play the ever-loving poop out of Ivan, just like every other coach who has been thru here lately. Same with RR. Torts rode Seth Jones and David Savard for years. Ivan and RR will be those kinds of players for him.

- Tomahawk


You're assuming Provy is still here. I'm not sure he will be.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:30 AM ET
I agree with Bill regarding Laughton as potential captain. I think he displays the perfect demeanor on the ice. He sticks up for his teammates, plays the game with a snarl, and genuinely looks pissed when things aren’t going the team’s way (which, over the past few years, was plentiful). Haters are going to hate, but Laughts should be this team’s captain.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 9:32 AM ET
Since things are slow (I'd say glacial, but why torture ourselves.), I thought that this article was worthy of a read.

https://www.rollingstone....ports-riley-cote-1367947/

It may even be of use to the less dramatically injured.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 9:46 AM ET
Kadri's goal in OT should've been waived off the Avs given a penalty for two many men on the ice.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:48 AM ET
Please don’t name a Captain. The best Captains we’ve had in recent years in Keith Primeau, Mike Richards and Giroux came from time of reflecting on the leadership roles on those teams. Primeau was the right man for the job when the responsibility was too heavy in a short stint for Eric Desjardins in a room filled with leaders that included John LeClair and Mark Recchi. Richards took on the “C” after watching Jason Smith, Darien Hatcher and Peter Forsberg take short stints with the “C”. After this came Claude Giroux after Chris Pronger’s short stint and career ending injury when letting that season play out. Sean Couturier is the most deserving but you can question if the time is right. After all, he’s entering his 30’s, coming off injury and this will be his first season without Claude Giroux. Let’s let this play out first.
Tomahawk
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Jun 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
Kadri's goal in OT should've been waived off the Avs given a penalty for two many men on the ice.
- MJL


Hard to feel sorry for Tampa when they've been on the receiving end of so many generous calls/non-calls over the past few seasons.

If not for two BS high stick calls, they wouldn't have made it out of the 1st-round.
Tomahawk
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Jun 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
You're assuming Provy is still here. I'm not sure he will be.
- rayc16


There's no way they trade him.

A smart team would hang on to Sanheim, draft Nemec/Jiricek, and trade Provy in a Hall-Larsson kind of trade before most of the league wises up to him.

Flyers are anything but smart.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
5 years ago today we drafted Nolan Patrick and we were all happy it happened.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
Kadri's goal in OT should've been waived off the Avs given a penalty for two many men on the ice.
- MJL

No, there are lazy changes every game that go uncalled
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
There's no way they trade him.

A smart team would hang on to Sanheim, draft Nemec/Jiricek, and trade Provy in a Hall-Larsson kind of trade before most of the league wises up to him.

Flyers are anything but smart.

- Tomahawk



JFC its insane how the fanbase has turned on Provorov.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
Since things are slow (I'd say glacial, but why torture ourselves.), I thought that this article was worthy of a read.

https://www.rollingstone....ports-riley-cote-1367947/

It may even be of use to the less dramatically injured.

- Pompous


Very interesting. Reminds us that pros are human, too. I hope they find continued success.
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