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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
Kadri's goal in OT should've been waived off the Avs given a penalty for two many men on the ice.
- MJL


Mistakes happen. I'm glad it's not a reviewable play.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
Would love to see Frosty skating and playing with the heart and soul of Dave Poulin!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
5 years ago today we drafted Nolan Patrick and we were all happy it happened.
- MBFlyerfan


Folks were pretty happy about Frost and Ratcliff, too.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:31 AM ET
Folks were pretty happy about Frost and Ratcliff, too.
- Scoob




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S0wbuG0Cq0&t=314s
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S0wbuG0Cq0&t=314s
- MBFlyerfan


hindsight
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hard to feel sorry for Tampa when they've been on the receiving end of so many generous calls/non-calls over the past few seasons.

If not for two BS high stick calls, they wouldn't have made it out of the 1st-round.

- Tomahawk


I think that's a little different. Those calls can be missed. Kadri is across the ice and has the puck over the blueline before the player he replaced is off the ice. Not much gray area there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
No, there are lazy changes every game that go uncalled
- ClaudeFather


Do you know why lazy changes are let go every game? It's within the rules. There is leeway given if the player coming on doesn't play the puck. In this case. Kadri is across the ice and has the puck and has the opening to attack to the net because he cheated on the change. Newhook is still on the ice when Kadri plays the puck.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
Do you know why lazy changes are let go every game? It's within the rules. There is leeway given if the player coming on doesn't play the puck. In this case. Kadri is across the ice and has the puck and has the opening to attack to the net because he cheated on the change. Newhook is still on the ice when Kadri plays the puck.
- MJL

It happens, get over it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
It happens, get over it
- ClaudeFather


That's an idiotic response.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
That's an idiotic response.
- MJL

Curtsy and look nonchalant, just for me
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
That's an idiotic response.
- MJL

Go and look at the replays, there is technically 6 lightning player on the ice for a couple seconds as well. It could have been called but it was a crappy change that wasn’t. No excuses.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Ok, I will admit it, I am feeling a lot better about the Torts hire than I did last week. What really impacted my opinion of Torts was his interview with Jason Myrtetus this week. As a coach myself, I could really relate to what Torts was talking about. He seems to really love the Flyers and seems to be genuinely excited about this opportunity, I really hope it works out for him and the Flyers.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
JFC its insane how the fanbase has turned on Provorov.
- MBFlyerfan


The general fanbase is finally coming around to the fact that he's not a franchise dman. There have been people who have been saying the same for years.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Ok, I will admit it, I am feeling a lot better about the Torts hire than I did last week. What really impacted my opinion of Torts was his interview with Jason Myrtetus this week. As a coach myself, I could really relate to what Torts was talking about. He seems to really love the Flyers and seems to be genuinely excited about this opportunity, I really hope it works out for him and the Flyers.
- jd250

totally shocked.

Every coach they hire says the same fn poop. Almost verbatim. Peeps like you eat it up and get all hard.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
My only criticism of Torts was for his whining about everything. I love the fact that he was the coach involved in some of the best line brawls in recent history.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
totally shocked.

Every coach they hire says the same fn poop. Almost verbatim. Peeps like you eat it up and get all hard.

- hello it's me 2050

Let me ask you something. Do you want Torts to succeed? If your answer is no, why?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Go and look at the replays, there is technically 6 lightning player on the ice for a couple seconds as well. It could have been called but it was a crappy change that wasn’t. No excuses.
- ClaudeFather


Again, according to the rules, there is some leeway given if the player coming on does not play the puck. Once the player plays the puck, that is no longer given. This wasn't something that was close. It was blatant because Kadri came on so early that he was across the ice and had beaten the defense while the player he was replacing was still on the ice. That's a blatant too many men on the ice. It's not close.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
Ok, I will admit it, I am feeling a lot better about the Torts hire than I did last week. What really impacted my opinion of Torts was his interview with Jason Myrtetus this week. As a coach myself, I could really relate to what Torts was talking about. He seems to really love the Flyers and seems to be genuinely excited about this opportunity, I really hope it works out for him and the Flyers.
- jd250


You're a coach yourself? What systems do you employ? What systems does Tortorella play and what do you like about it?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
JFC its insane how the fanbase has turned on Provorov.
- MBFlyerfan

posting this again: https://thoughtsfromthebe...-away-from-a-stanley-cup/
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
The general fanbase is finally coming around to the fact that he's not a franchise dman. There have been people who have been saying the same for years.
- Tomahawk



I think that's been pretty obvious for a while now. That being said, I think he can improve and play better and still be a solid top pairing defender.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Kadri's goal in OT should've been waived off the Avs given a penalty for two many men on the ice.
- MJL

100% agree. The refs were not calling anything in the 3rd or OT, and that is not right! I don't mind letting go minor infractions, but they were not calling what I considered obvious infractions and once I saw what happened on that OT goal, its just another black-eye for the league. Jon Cooper stated it best after the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3yc7TZgjQ
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
5 years ago today we drafted Nolan Patrick and we were all happy it happened.
- MBFlyerfan


Yep -- He showed some flashes that first year that he was a better and more skilled player than Nico
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
I think that's a little different. Those calls can be missed. Kadri is across the ice and has the puck over the blueline before the player he replaced is off the ice. Not much gray area there.
- MJL


Karma sweet karma.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
posting this again: https://thoughtsfromthebe...-away-from-a-stanley-cup/
- 2Real



good times
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
Karma sweet karma.
- Tomahawk


Dynasty hater. And no, I'm not talking the evening soap from the 80's either.
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